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  • 00:07

    [some guy] : Hey lady . . . Whatcha got going on under all that skirt?

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    We’ve all been there. And by we, I mean basically everyone who isn’t a man (or doesn’t

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    look like society’s idea of one). Some foolish guy just does not understand that you do not

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    want your day interrupted, you have no interest in what’s on offer, and really no reason

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    to take notice of him at all aside from the fact that he won’t get out of your way.

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    It’s to the point that you wish you had some kind of armor, something that would keep

  • 00:48

    these guys at a distance . . . Well, historical fashion is right there with

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    you.

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    Hi, I’m V, and I’m a huge historical costume nerd. A few years back when all those articles

  • 00:57

    about “10 fashion trends men hate” were going around, I stumbled on a Tumblr post

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    by Gilded Age Garbage Fire, discussing how all of the gigantic skirt supports from the

  • 01:05

    Victorian era, instead of being instruments of patriarchal torture, would absolutely have

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    been on a 19th century list of fashion trends men hated. I wasn’t even a fledgling costumer

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    at this point, but I filed this post away for humor, if nothing else.

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    In 2020, now a Dickens Fair alumnus and fledgling CosTuber, I was reading that beloved fashion

  • 01:23

    history treatise “The Cut Of Womens’ Clothes” by Nora Waugh, and came across the following

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    gem of a quote from 16th century traveler and diarist Fynes Moryson written in 1592

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    : "And they say, that the sleeves borne up with whale-bones, were first invented, to

  • 01:37

    avoid mens' familiar touching of their arms. . ."

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    And suddenly, the memory of that tumblr post came rushing back. There was something there.

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    There had to be. 2018 could not possibly have been the first time men complained about how

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    absurd feminine fashion was, nor could 1592 be the last time someone tried to invent clothing

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    that would keep ill-mannered menfolk at arms length. There had to be more of these fascinating

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    moments in fashion history, and I wanted to know about them.

  • 02:01

    Before I get going, a little housekeeping on the topic of gendered terms : There have

  • 02:05

    always been human beings that didn’t fit neatly into society’s gendered boxes. However,

  • 02:10

    fashion, as a function of society, was meant to represent and reinforce those binary gender

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    roles. There’s nothing inherently male or female about a piece of clothing, only what

  • 02:19

    meaning society assigns to it. So I will be using the terms “menswear”, “womenswear”,

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    “masculine” or “feminine” styles in reference to what those fashions represented

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    at their time. Also, while I’ve tried to avoid referring generally to people facing

  • 02:31

    harassment as “women”, because people of all genders face harassment, I will sometimes

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    be referring to those doing the harassing as “men”. Many of these historical examples

  • 02:40

    refer specifically to male aggressors, and while there are certainly exceptions, current

  • 02:44

    studies show that street harassment is done by men the vast majority of the time, regardless

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    of the target’s gender. If that bothers you, maybe take a minute to think about why.

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    While you do that, let’s talk about some clothes.

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    We’ll start with the whalebone-supported sleeves our Mr. Moryson was talking about.

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    The quote was published in 1617, but written in 1592, describing the fashion for these

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    extremely voluminous sleeves, seen here in portraiture. They first came into fashion

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    during the Elizabethan period and stayed popular in some form through most of the 17th century,

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    up until the revolution in dressmaking that was the Mantua in the 1680s. The 16th century

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    saw the hoopskirt, then called a “farthingale” (with all sorts of spellings), become popular

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    in Europe for the first time, so when large sleeves came into fashion, tailors began to

  • 03:26

    use the same methods of making them take up space. An account for making one of Queen

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    Elizabeth gowns lists “for a payer of vardingall sleves of holland cloth bented with whalsbone

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    and covered with riben, 13 shillings and fourpence” . Holland cloth was a type of linen usually

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    used for undergarments or household textiles, which makes me think these were meant to be

  • 03:44

    worn under the gown sleeves to support them. They’re basically the ancestor of 1830s

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    “sleeve plumpers”. So were they actually invented to keep overly

  • 03:52

    touchy-feely men from making contact? We don’t know for sure in what spirit Mr. Moryson recorded

  • 03:56

    this quote, or who he heard it said by. What we do understand from dress historians is

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    that in England, at least, having a Queen on the throne had some interesting effects

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    on gender roles in fashion. The broad-shouldered menswear of her father Henry the 8th’s time

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    all but disappeared, and instead of padding at the shoulders, doublets were padded in

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    the belly, in a style called the “peascod”. Meanwhile, the womenswear silhouette expanded

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    through the cone-shaped Spanish farthingale, then the even bigger French cartwheel farthingale,

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    with sleeves growing to balance proportions. Elizabeth wanted, even needed to dazzle and

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    intimidate her courtiers to be taken seriously as a reigning, unmarried Queen, so the fashions

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    she set reflected her power. Women in their dresses took up more and more space, and had

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    a more commanding presence, while masculine fashion became softer, prioritizing refinement

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    and prosperity over aggression and brute strength. So, whether they literally kept wandering

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    hands at bay or not, these whalebone-supported sleeves absolutely did represent an increase

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    in womens’ social power.

  • 04:55

    Moving into the early 18th century, let’s talk about a garment that was such a big—and

  • 04:59

    I mean big— deal, that someone wrote an entire short academic paper trying to figure

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    out why the men of the early 1700s just Could Not Handle It: the hoopskirt. 18th century

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    hoopskirts were initially round but quickly became oval-shaped, flatter in the front and

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    back and holding the skirt out as far as possible at the sides. I’ve read many of the pissed-off

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    letters that various men of the time wrote to newspapers and magazines, in the hopes

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    of making sense of the variety of things they’re mad about, and I’m still not sure I can.

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    The academic paper in question is written by Kimberly Chrisman, and I found it extremely

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    useful when combing through 18th-century publications for info. Complaints about the hoop petticoat

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    included : It was a perversion of the figure to men who thought women were nature’s masterpiece;

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    it was “mechanical” or a “machine” and therefore against gender roles that considered

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    technology to be inherently masculine, it made all women look pregnant, encouraged adultery

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    or extramarital affairs, showed frivolity and slavery to constantly-changing fashion,

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    confused class distinctions as servants wore their employer’s cast-offs, oppressed men

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    who had to buy them for their wives and daughters . . .

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    {hand to chest, out of breath}

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    And as if all this wasn’t enough, the thing that men were most resoundingly upset about

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    was how women might use the hoop petticoat to deflect or initiate flirting, at their

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    own choice. There’s much discussion of the idea that because a hoopskirt could conceivably

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    be upset by wind, the wearer’s steps, or any number of other things, the wearer could

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    deliberately use it to flash her legs, and have a defense of plausible deniability against

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    slut-shaming. A poem from The Gentleman’s Magazine in 1745 reads “How their steps

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    they reveal, and oblige the lewd eye/ With the leg's pretty turn, and delicate thigh,/

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    While the modern free hoops, so ample and wide,/ Up-lift the fair smock, with an impudent

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    pride,/ And betray the sweet graces they chastely shou’d hide!”. And in 1753, a French poetic

  • 06:43

    recipe for the latest fashions says “Make your petticoats short, that a hoop, eight

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    yards wide/ May decently show how your garters are tied!”. Garters were usually tied just

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    below or above the knee, and intensely sexualized. But, the hoop petticoat could also keep unwelcome

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    advances at a distance— if the wearer chose. In 1711, Joseph Addison writes in the Spectator

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    “ I find several Speculative Persons are of Opinion that our Sex has of late Years

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    been very sawcy, and that the Hoop Petticoat is made use of to keep us at a Distance. It

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    is most certain that a Woman's Honour cannot be better entrenched than after this manner,

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    in Circle within Circle, amidst such a Variety of Out-works and Lines of Circumvallation. A Female

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    who is thus invested in Whale-Bone is sufficiently secured against the Approaches of an ill-bred

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    Fellow.” In Samuel Richardson’s novel Clarissa, written in 1747, a character says

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    “I desire my hoop may have its full circumference. All they're good for, that I know, is to clean

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    dirty shoes and to keep ill-mannered fellows at a distance”.

  • 07:39

    All I can really conclude, is that these men couldn’t handle the idea of a woman having

  • 07:43

    space that she alone could control. I’ll finish with the end of one Mr. Stonecastle’s

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    rant on January 31st of 1741 to the London Magazine : “I know no other argument should

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    sooner prevail with [women], than to acquaint them it is a Mode very disagreeable to the

  • 07:58

    Men in general.” Oh, how little has changed.

  • 08:02

    The next thing I came across is almost certainly a purposeful satire, but it’s so funny I

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    couldn’t not talk about it. It’s one of those moments when someone tries to mock a

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    thing for being completely ridiculous, and instead only succeeds in making themself look

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    ridiculous for caring. Part of me wonders if this illustrator was self-aware enough

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    to be doing this on purpose? But given this related work, I’m not so sure . . .

  • 08:23

    This cartoon published by Aaron Martinet depicts what are called “poke bonnets”. This style

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    of hat dates from the late 1810s through the 1830s, a period of fashion history known for

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    exuberant and excessive decoration as the minimalist Directoire styles of the Regency

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    period were replaced. These bonnets were so big and so in-the-way one might assume it

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    was tricky to have a conversation with the wearer, and that’s what the cartoon seems

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    to be saying . . . until we look a little closer at just how those, uh, conversations,

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    seem to be going. The frontmost pair of figures have what looks like entirely normal body

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    language and posing, except for the fact that the gentleman’s head has fully disappeared

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    within the brim of the lady’s bonnet for purposes we can all guess at. Her body language

  • 09:02

    seems pretty neutral, and given the title of the piece translates to “the invisible

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    face-to-face”, if it were just these two figures it would probably be a cute, silly

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    little piece about clumsily-concealed smooching. But let’s look at the second, uhm, conversation.

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    This gentleman has not succeeded in shoving his entire head in the lady’s bonnet, only

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    his face, because she is not having it. Look at her body language. From her head to her

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    toes, she wants him out of her face— literally! She’s bracing with her legs, her entire

  • 09:31

    body is leaning back to put more space between them. She’s pushing him away with both arms.

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    Her head is pulling back so far her neck is disproportionately extended in the drawing.

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    This isn’t cutesy smooching under cover of bonnet, this is assault.

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    In the background, we see two more ladies, both wearing the same exaggerated style of

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    poke bonnets, cheerfully conversing with eachother from what might even be a Covid-19 safe distance,

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    with no apparent problems. Imagine setting out to mock hats for making

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    it hard to talk to women, and instead illustrating for everyone that the hats are definitely

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    not why you find it hard to talk to women.

  • 10:05

    And now we reach the topic of Gilded Age Garbage Fire’s truly wonderful Tumblr post, the

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    gloriously voluminous skirt shapes of the Victorian era. At the start of the era, the

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    fashionable skirt shape was a large bell, requiring layers upon layers of starched,

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    corded, or horsehair-stiffened petticoats to create. These were heavy, expensive, and

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    hard to move in— and before someone goes “then why did people wear it?”, let me

  • 10:26

    explain that that was the point, kind of. If you were wearing all those layers of petticoats,

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    then you were someone who could afford not to work. In a society with much more rigid

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    ideas about social class than our modern Western world, you wanted to dress as well as you

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    possibly could, because poverty was seen as immoral (for the poor people, mind, not for

  • 10:43

    the society that didn’t help them). Around 1856, some clever individual had the

  • 10:47

    idea of using thin rings of flexible spring steel, held up by ribbons or fabric tapes

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    into a cage-like structure, to support the bell-shaped skirts instead. These were much

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    lighter, less expensive, and required less labor to keep in good condition than all the

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    petticoats, so they took off immediately among the middle and lower classes who, of course,

  • 11:03

    also wanted to walk down the street feeling like they looked amazing. And, just like in

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    the 18th century, men lost their shit. Gilded Age Garbage Fire has provided a choice selection

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    of satirical cartoons from the 1850s and 60s when hoopskirts were in fashion, all of them

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    making fun of the size of the hoopskirts, how impractical they were, how much women

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    cared. Satirical cartoons in the magazine Punch especially ridiculed maids and working-class

  • 11:26

    women who wore crinolines, as did George Routledge’s etiquette manual from 1875. And, you can imagine

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    how well racist white women took it as increasing numbers of Black women had the freedom and

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    economic power to dress as fashionably as they pleased. While it is true that hoopskirts

  • 11:40

    were a major risk when it came to working with machinery or fire, a lot of this outrage

  • 11:45

    had nothing to do with safety, and was simply because these women were breaking down class

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    barriers by “daring to dress above their station”.

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    Fashions changed in the late 1860s, with the hoopskirt first becoming bigger at the back,

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    then evolving into the bustles of the 1870s and 80s. These are often called “fake butts”

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    by modern people, but no one in the Victorian era actually thought that. Padding and skirt

  • 12:05

    support garments had long since been part of fashion, and most people knew that human

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    bodies were not actually shaped like whatever the fashionable silhouette was. That didn’t

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    stop the satirists from having a field day with all the things the fashionable silhouette

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    was shaped like, including centaurs, beetles, and snails. And there’s the great double-standard

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    of sexism : Throughout history, things that women are excited about have been promptly

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    demeaned and dismissed, whether it’s fluffy skirts, Starbucks and Uggs and pop music,

  • 12:31

    or working in jobs like computer science. Yes, working with computers used to be low-paid

  • 12:35

    secretarial work until men realized it was a big deal. Look it up if you don’t believe

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    me.

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    And finally. My favorite out of all these trends, because it’s the only one that involved

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    steep consequences for men who couldn’t keep it to themselves : the Hatpin Peril.

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    As we have seen earlier, in the late-Victorian period through the 1910s, large fashionable

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    hats and hairstyles needed to be attached to eachother with “hatpins”. These long,

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    slender metal pins have a sharp point for piercing through the hat, and need to be at

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    least as long as the hat’s crown is wide. This one is an original Edwardian one and

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    measures a fairly modest 9 inches, but they could be at least a foot long.

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    In May 1903, Miss Leoti Blaker had recently come to New York City from Kansas. She got

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    on the 5th Avenue coach and sat down in the corner next to a well-dressed older man. He

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    seemed harmless enough, but soon took advantage of the crowdedness of public transit to invade

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    her personal space more and more. When he put his arm “back of her” (and we can

  • 13:26

    very well guess what she meant by that), she said “I became so enraged I didn’t know

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    what to do. At last I reached up and took a hatpin from my hat. I slid it around so

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    that I could give him a good dig, and ran that hatpin into him with all the force I

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    possessed.” Miss Blaker then goes on to say this wasn’t

  • 13:44

    the first time she’d defended herself with a hatpin: In Kansas, a man tried to steal

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    her pocketbook while she was fidgeting with her hat, so she jabbed him in the face and

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    he ran off. She concludes her conversation with the reporter by saying “I will get

  • 13:55

    rid of all the mashers that come near me”. “Masher” was the period term for a “catcaller”

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    or “creep”, a man who hung around harassing women in public.

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    Miss Blaker wasn’t the first woman to use a hatpin as an improvised weapon— the San

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    Francisco Call in 1898 contains a letter describing how a woman with a hatpin stopped a train

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    robbery there, then admonishes “Let the men who have been punctured by it examine

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    their own consciences”. However, Miss Blaker’s bravery did get a great deal of press, and

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    while public opinion initially agreed that a hatpin was a suitable last-resort in defense

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    of feminine virtue, it turned as soon as men began associating it with suffragists and

  • 14:30

    other proponents of womens’ rights. Newspaper articles began to talk about the danger of

  • 14:34

    hatpins, while in the wearer’s hat, injuring men in crowds— men specifically, not “people”

  • 14:39

    so I do wonder if that had more to do with the men than the hatpins. Magazines published

  • 14:44

    letters complaining that any man who tried to say anything to a woman he met might find

  • 14:48

    himself stabbed. Sound familiar, in the age of Me Too and men complaining they’re afraid

  • 14:53

    to speak to women at all in case whatever they say could be considered harassment? Some

  • 14:57

    very insecure person even drew this cartoon, as if women don’t feel like this when someone’s

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    staring aggressively at them . . . Chicago banned hatpins longer than 9 inches

  • 15:05

    in March of 1910. Various other places including Massachusetts, New Orleans, and Melbourne

  • 15:10

    Australia, put similar laws in place, either restricting the length of hatpins or requiring

  • 15:15

    them to have protective caps on the ends at all times to avoid accidental injuries. This

  • 15:20

    was an extremely effective reframing tactic, in a few short years taking the discussion

  • 15:24

    from lauding the brave women who defended themselves to blaming them for public endangerment

  • 15:29

    of innocent men . . . all while taking attention away from the men whose awful ideas about

  • 15:34

    consent led to them getting stuck with the pointy end. It was neither the demise of street-harassment

  • 15:39

    nor anti-hatpin laws that ended the Hatpin Peril, but fashions moving ever onwards towards

  • 15:43

    the shorter hairstyles and smaller hats of the 1920s.

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    So, I think the biggest lesson to be taken here, is this : Street harassment was a problem

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    when people were wearing floor-length dresses and sleeves you couldn’t touch their arms

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    through. It was a problem when they wore hats you couldn’t see their faces around, or

  • 15:58

    hoopskirts so big you couldn’t stand next to them. It was a problem when you could literally

  • 16:03

    expect to be stabbed for it with a hatpin— and despite all that, it’s still a problem

  • 16:08

    today. Why? Because it has nothing to do with what you’re wearing. Street harassment has

  • 16:12

    existed from now back to 1592 and probably to the dawn of human history because of one

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    simple constant : Men who won’t leave us the fuck alone. It’s not because of what

  • 16:22

    we’re wearing, it’s because of people who feel entitled to degrade others on the

  • 16:25

    street, demand their attention, and violate their privacy and personal space. So if you’re

  • 16:30

    watching this, and thinking about a time someone catcalled you and you wondered if you shouldn’t

  • 16:34

    have worn that dress, or those shoes, or been out by yourself . . . No. It’s not your

  • 16:40

    fault. It’s never your fault. It never has been and it never will be. And if you’re

  • 16:45

    . . . somehow, still, watching this, wondering what is an acceptable reason to loudly hit

  • 16:49

    on someone in the street if not their clothing . . . there isn’t one. It’s just never

  • 16:54

    going to work out well for you. Please, go, work on being an interesting human being with

  • 16:58

    character and hobbies and relationship skills . . . or if that sounds too hard, and you’d

  • 17:04

    rather keep up the catcalling . . .

  • 17:08

    Thank you for watching this veritable diatribe on feminism and fashion history. If you’ve

  • 17:13

    had fun, leave a like, tell me your thoughts in the comments, and subscribe to watch me

  • 17:17

    make some of the exciting bits of costume we’ve talked about! Very heartfelt thanks

  • 17:21

    to my friends Anna, for doing camera operation, and Christopher, for being the only one of

  • 17:25

    my male friends who was willing to shout rude pickup lines at me on film.

  • 17:29

    Also some very heartfelt, if somewhat frustrated thanks to all the rest of my male friends,

  • 17:33

    who could not have catcalled even convincingly enough for that scene. Building the world

  • 17:37

    we want to live in right here.

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    Christopher : Whatcha got going on under . . . pthbbt . . . skert.

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    V : [laughing] Christopher : I’m not a film actor!

  • 17:44

    V : Oh my god that’s excellent.

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The example sentences of IMPUDENT in videos (1 in total of 1)

while preposition or subordinating conjunction the determiner modern adjective free adjective hoops noun, plural , so adverb ample noun, singular or mass and coordinating conjunction wide adjective , / noun, singular or mass up preposition or subordinating conjunction - lift verb, base form the determiner fair adjective smock noun, singular or mass , with preposition or subordinating conjunction an determiner impudent noun, singular or mass

Use "impudent" in a sentence | "impudent" example sentences

How to use "impudent" in a sentence?

  • I urge you to be as impudent as you dare. BE BOLD, BE BOLD, BE BOLD.
    -Susan Sontag-
  • Prudence and compromise are necessary means, but every man should have an impudent end which he will not compromise.
    -Charles Horton Cooley-
  • When a man sends you an impudent letter, sit right down and give it back to him with interest ten times compounded, and then throw both letters in the wastebasket.
    -Elbert Hubbard-
  • That young man with the long, auburn hair and the impudent face - that young man was not really a poet; but surely he was a poem.
    -Gilbert K. Chesterton-
  • A pale sun poked impudent marmalade fingers through the grizzled lattice glass, and sent the shadows scurrying, like convent girls menaced by a tramp.
    -Vivian Stanshall-
  • The grossly impudent lie always leaves traces behind it, even after it has been nailed down.
    -Adolf Hitler-
  • To agree without understanding is inane. To disagree without understanding is impudent.
    -Mortimer Adler-
  • Silly things do cease to be silly if they are done by sensible people in an impudent way.
    -Jane Austen-

Definition and meaning of IMPUDENT

What does "impudent mean?"

/ˈimpyəd(ə)nt/

adjective
not showing due respect for another person.

What are synonyms of "impudent"?
Some common synonyms of "impudent" are:
  • impertinent,
  • insolent,
  • cheeky,
  • audacious,
  • brazen,
  • shameless,
  • immodest,
  • pert,
  • presumptuous,
  • forward,
  • disrespectful,
  • insubordinate,
  • irreverent,
  • flippant,
  • bumptious,

You can find detailed definitions of them on this page.

What are antonyms of "impudent"?
Some common antonyms of "impudent" are:
  • polite,
  • respectful,

You can find detailed definitions of them on this page.