so one of the things that's being able to  relax right once you're in that situation  

right if you can't touch or be able to  put yourself out that Curt you're gonna  

have to swim and the easiest way is just with  a nice side stroke and a couple of good kicks  

know about energy conservation at this point  right you said maybe a little bit on your side  

yep not weighted laboring - right and we're  being pulled out we're continuing to go just  

a little bit now it's obviously starting  to weaken and so at this point once we've  

kind of gotten rid of that initial strength  right I would just say swim parallel shore  

right along the side right so if I know  it's coming this way yeah I wanted to end

absolutely so if we tried to turn around right  now and swim against that current all right you  

know in a week rip current we might be able to  make it right but you're still gonna get tired  

and it's still not gonna be something that  we want to do it's not fun it's work yeah  

and we're right about on the edge of it right  here and like I said it's a small one today  

right but it's enough for a little kid right or  anybody that isn't honest limb right I'm now at  

a point where you know I'm overhead so it's it's  a problem it's an issue right right yeah do it I  

mean you know you don't want to be over your head  right and not and lose strength right so again so  

let's talk about it need to think so so we're  swimming parallel right we're calm let's you  

calm and we're doing some kind of floating yep  like this you know and show you that help and  

then the other thing is to swim parallel to the  shore yes ma'am okay and again does it matter  

how you swim or just that you do it this is do  it and like I say get a good couple big kicks  

it's not too much energy yeah when you try and  take your arms up out of the water right number  

you know underwater and keep your breaststroke  way to do it practice these things in a pool a  

non-stressful environment so that when the stress  occurs it's a lot easier to do number one is calm  

yep number two don't swim against it yep and  number three try to find a way either floating  

or a parallel to the coast to keep yourself you  know from being pulled out further correct okay  

and then obviously if you're in trouble you have  to get help yeah um why does somebody rescue or  

get drowned when they're trying to help people  so a lot of times if a lay person is going out  

to rescue they don't have any flotation right  and and they're in a panic State so they're  

going to drown me because it's the first thing  they see and the first thing that they come up  

to yeah and they're gonna grab on to me one  of the things that I can say if you're ever  

in that position right the last place that that  victim wants to be is underwater so if they're  

taking you under get underwater get some distance  away from human the victim okay and call and talk  

to the victim try to get talk to them I got  you and I mean how many years have you been  

doing this John this is my ninth year okay  so how many rescues do you think you've done  

there's several okay yeah all the big ones all  the serious ones were already related gotcha I  

mean share what your guys do but let's show one  more time because exactly good John right there

everybody everybody even  in the beach they look out

Wow this riff took us out and then  actually put us in a little bit Wow  

know what that we're actually kind of  been a little bit of a circle yeah yeah  

and then again the danger is you get  out you get out too far no and that's  

a cabbage head you're fine okay other  hazards to worry about the beach today

once you're exhausted done you've got to make a  plan that's right okay so let's say I'm exactly  

yep I don't think I can swim parallel and  get out yep so what's my next step I need  

I need help yeah I guess so just I would put  your hand up okay and then call for a call to  

rescue okay that's a biggest thing you want  the lifeguard see us right and you're gonna  

see them coming down ain't coming together you're  a lifeguard and stay calm stay calm keep staying  

all right okay I feel like I can't make it in  yeah I'm on okay right but I just need some

maybe embarrass the good swimmers  rugby a problem pride is definitely  

a big thing right ego um you know we you  know people don't want to be rescued by  

lifeguards it's embarrassing that they got  into trouble and and yeah fine right now so  

but you might get to a point where you  no longer fine right and we want you to  

be conservative talk to me what's gonna  happen he's gonna hand me the buoy yep

and so let's say like she was really tired and  having a tough time holding on to be with you

yeah exactly