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I'm Neil. And I'm Sam.  
I'm Neil. And I'm Sam.  

Do you like trying new food? I do indeed - I love eating
Do you like trying new food? I do indeed - I love eating

foods from around the world
foods from around the world

and I especially like
and I especially like

trying out restaurants that
trying out restaurants that

serve news kinds of food. Me too, and I like food
serve news kinds of food. Me too, and I like food

that is a mix of
that is a mix of

different styles - sometimes
different styles - sometimes

called fusion food. But
called fusion food. But

could I tempt you to
could I tempt you to

some insect tapas or
some insect tapas or

a tarantula doughnut? Maybe not - the idea of
a tarantula doughnut? Maybe not - the idea of

eating food made from
eating food made from

bugs and creepy crawlies
bugs and creepy crawlies

doesn't appeal. Well, maybe I can
doesn't appeal. Well, maybe I can

convince you in this
convince you in this

programme because that's
programme because that's

what we're discussing - and
what we're discussing - and

teaching you some
teaching you some

vocabulary along the way.
vocabulary along the way.

But first, I must
But first, I must

serve you a question
serve you a question

to answer. It's about
to answer. It's about

food - but not made form
food - but not made form

bugs. Do you know what
bugs. Do you know what

type of food is sometimes
type of food is sometimes

known as 'priest chokers'?
known as 'priest chokers'?

Is it: a) cheese?,
Is it: a) cheese?,

b) pasta? or c) potato? I think I know this
b) pasta? or c) potato? I think I know this

one, Neil. It's pasta,
one, Neil. It's pasta,

isn't it? Well, I will give you
isn't it? Well, I will give you

the answer at the end of
the answer at the end of

the programme. But,
the programme. But,

let's get back to food
let's get back to food

made from bugs - which is
made from bugs - which is

a growing trend in the
a growing trend in the

Western world. Insects
Western world. Insects

are an alternative source
are an alternative source

of food and experts say
of food and experts say

they're filled with
they're filled with

lots of good nutrients,
lots of good nutrients,

including amino acids
including amino acids

and protein. And eating
and protein. And eating

them could help to
them could help to

fight world hunger
fight world hunger

and reduce pollution. I'm not convinced yet,
and reduce pollution. I'm not convinced yet,

but I do know that the
but I do know that the

word for eating insects
word for eating insects

is 'entomophagy' and it's
is 'entomophagy' and it's

something BBC World Service
something BBC World Service

programme, The Food
programme, The Food

Chain, discussed. The programme spoke to experts
Chain, discussed. The programme spoke to experts

who think cooking with bugs
who think cooking with bugs

is a great idea. One of
is a great idea. One of

them was Andy Holcroft,
them was Andy Holcroft,

founding director of Grub
founding director of Grub

Kitchen and Bug Farm Foods.
Kitchen and Bug Farm Foods.

He explained the challenge
He explained the challenge

of getting some people
of getting some people

to eat bugs. In the Western culture, we
to eat bugs. In the Western culture, we

have got a bit of an uphill -
have got a bit of an uphill -

I would say - struggle because
I would say - struggle because

pre-conceptions around eating
pre-conceptions around eating

insects are already sort
insects are already sort

of ingrained in society,
of ingrained in society,

so we already think
so we already think

before we've even tried them,
before we've even tried them,

they're going to taste
they're going to taste

disgusting or gross. So,
disgusting or gross. So,

to actually get someone
to actually get someone

to put it in your mouth -
to put it in your mouth -

the easiest way we find
the easiest way we find

straightaway is to try maybe,
straightaway is to try maybe,

a cricket cookie or a
a cricket cookie or a

chocolate chip cricket cookie
chocolate chip cricket cookie

where you have... we are
where you have... we are

using cricket powder so
using cricket powder so

you don't actually see
you don't actually see

any insects whatsoever -
any insects whatsoever -

you're getting the idea
you're getting the idea

of eating them so people
of eating them so people

can deal with that a
can deal with that a

bit more than actually
bit more than actually

seeing the whole insect. Interestingly, it seems
seeing the whole insect. Interestingly, it seems

to be western cultures that
to be western cultures that

don't like eating insects -
don't like eating insects -

perhaps because it's
perhaps because it's

thought to be wrong or
thought to be wrong or

just disgusting, even if
just disgusting, even if

it's not! As Andy says,
it's not! As Andy says,

people have pre-conceived
people have pre-conceived

ideas about it. To change
ideas about it. To change

these ideas is an uphill
these ideas is an uphill

struggle or needs a lot
struggle or needs a lot

of effort to achieve. Yes, the negative
of effort to achieve. Yes, the negative

attitude to eating bugs
attitude to eating bugs

is ingrained into society,
is ingrained into society,

meaning it is a long-lasting
meaning it is a long-lasting

attitude that is difficult
attitude that is difficult

to change. But Andy and
to change. But Andy and

other chefs are trying
other chefs are trying

to change that attitude
to change that attitude

by subtly introducing
by subtly introducing

insects into food, such
insects into food, such

as his chocolate chip
as his chocolate chip

cricket cookies. This is just for starters!
cricket cookies. This is just for starters!

Other interesting and
Other interesting and

exotic dishes, where you
exotic dishes, where you

do see the bugs you're
do see the bugs you're

eating, are now
eating, are now

being served. I'm still not convinced
being served. I'm still not convinced

but maybe chef Joseph Yoon
but maybe chef Joseph Yoon

can change my mind? He is
can change my mind? He is

a chef and an 'edible
a chef and an 'edible

insect ambassador'. He's
insect ambassador'. He's

also trying to persuade
also trying to persuade

the squeamish - people
the squeamish - people

easily upset by something
easily upset by something

unpleasant - to overcome
unpleasant - to overcome

their fears of crickets,
their fears of crickets,

worms, and spiders, and
worms, and spiders, and

instead see them as a tasty,
instead see them as a tasty,

alternative source of protein. Here he is, speaking on
alternative source of protein. Here he is, speaking on

the BBC's Food Chain
the BBC's Food Chain

programme talking about
programme talking about

changing people's attitudes. We approach our work with
changing people's attitudes. We approach our work with

openness, with understanding
openness, with understanding

and inclusivity. When people
and inclusivity. When people

approach me and they go
approach me and they go

like 'urghh' or they react
like 'urghh' or they react

very viscerally, I don't
very viscerally, I don't

get confrontational, I go
get confrontational, I go

like, I understand that
like, I understand that

you can feel that way and
you can feel that way and

what we need to do is
what we need to do is

start changing these
start changing these

perceptions from insects
perceptions from insects

as being a pest, that
as being a pest, that

bites you or that carries
bites you or that carries

disease, to edible insects,
disease, to edible insects,

something that's sustainably
something that's sustainably

farmed and harvested
farmed and harvested

specifically for
specifically for

human consumption. So, Joseph is passionate about
human consumption. So, Joseph is passionate about

edible insects but is
edible insects but is

understanding of people who
understanding of people who

don't like the idea and maybe
don't like the idea and maybe

show this viscerally - having
show this viscerally - having

an emotional reaction rather
an emotional reaction rather

than one based on
than one based on

fact or reason. But Joseph wants to change
fact or reason. But Joseph wants to change

these negative emotions by
these negative emotions by

explaining the insects are farmed
explaining the insects are farmed

purely for humans to eat,
purely for humans to eat,

and they are farmed
and they are farmed

sustainably - in a way that
sustainably - in a way that

can last for a long time
can last for a long time

and is good for
and is good for

the environment. I suppose we kill animals
the environment. I suppose we kill animals

such as cows and sheep to
such as cows and sheep to

eat so why not insects or
eat so why not insects or

spiders? The debate about
spiders? The debate about

this continues but there's
this continues but there's

no debate about the answer
no debate about the answer

to today's question, Sam.
to today's question, Sam.

Earlier, I asked you if you
Earlier, I asked you if you

knew what type of food is
knew what type of food is

sometimes known as 'priest choker'?  
sometimes known as 'priest choker'?  

And I was sure if was pasta. It is pasta. Strozzapreti,
And I was sure if was pasta. It is pasta. Strozzapreti,

which means 'priest chokers'
which means 'priest chokers'

in Italian, is an elongated
in Italian, is an elongated

form of cavatelli pasta. Its
form of cavatelli pasta. Its

name is thought to come from
name is thought to come from

the greedy priests who were
the greedy priests who were

so enthralled by the pasta
so enthralled by the pasta

that they ate too quickly and
that they ate too quickly and

choked themselves. No bugs
choked themselves. No bugs

were involved, though. That's good to know because
were involved, though. That's good to know because

we have been talking
we have been talking

about entomophagy, a
about entomophagy, a

word for the practice of
word for the practice of

eating insects. Other vocabulary we mentioned
eating insects. Other vocabulary we mentioned

included fusion, which means
included fusion, which means

a mix of different styles.
a mix of different styles.

And the expression an uphill
And the expression an uphill

struggle means needs a lot
struggle means needs a lot

of effort to achieve. Something that is ingrained
of effort to achieve. Something that is ingrained

is a long-lasting attitude
is a long-lasting attitude

that is difficult to change. Viscerally describes having
that is difficult to change. Viscerally describes having

an emotional reaction rather
an emotional reaction rather

than one based
than one based

on fact or reason. And, doing something
on fact or reason. And, doing something

sustainably is doing it
sustainably is doing it

in a way that can last for
in a way that can last for

a long time and is good
a long time and is good

for the environment. Well, that's all for this
for the environment. Well, that's all for this

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