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    In this video we're going to look at a common trading bad habit; averaging down.
    In this video we're going to look at a common trading bad habit; averaging down.

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    What it is and how we can take steps to eliminate it. Hello I'm David Jones from
    What it is and how we can take steps to eliminate it. Hello I'm David Jones from

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    Capital.com and this is one of a series of videos that we're doing where we're
    Capital.com and this is one of a series of videos that we're doing where we're

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    looking at trading biases or trading bad habits. Our trading platform has an
    looking at trading biases or trading bad habits. Our trading platform has an

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    algorithm that will look at client behaviour and if it detects that maybe
    algorithm that will look at client behaviour and if it detects that maybe

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    they're slipping into bad habits we'll try and push them in a different
    they're slipping into bad habits we'll try and push them in a different

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    direction, to make them aware of the biases that they're developing. This time
    direction, to make them aware of the biases that they're developing. This time

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    around we're looking at the idea of averaging down. So first of all, what do I
    around we're looking at the idea of averaging down. So first of all, what do I

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    actually mean by this. Let's take a look. So let's explore this trading bias of
    actually mean by this. Let's take a look. So let's explore this trading bias of

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    averaging down. Let's go through an example, let's say - let's stick with
    averaging down. Let's go through an example, let's say - let's stick with

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    shares for now to keep it simple - let's say you buy a thousand shares in a
    shares for now to keep it simple - let's say you buy a thousand shares in a

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    company at $50. Because you're expecting the price of course to go up. But you're
    company at $50. Because you're expecting the price of course to go up. But you're

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    wrong, the price falls to $40. So what you do now [is] you buy an additional thousand
    wrong, the price falls to $40. So what you do now [is] you buy an additional thousand

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    shares at $40 this is averaging down - not I am recommending it as an
    shares at $40 this is averaging down - not I am recommending it as an

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    approach. Your average price is now $45. So you bought a thousand at 50, you
    approach. Your average price is now $45. So you bought a thousand at 50, you

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    bought another thousand at 40, so your average price - because you bought the
    bought another thousand at 40, so your average price - because you bought the

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    same amount- is the average of those two numbers, which is $45. So why does this
    same amount- is the average of those two numbers, which is $45. So why does this

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    appeal to people? Well if you have a conviction in your trading-investing
    appeal to people? Well if you have a conviction in your trading-investing

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    view on that particular market, whether it's a share, or currency, or a commodity -
    view on that particular market, whether it's a share, or currency, or a commodity -

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    as we saw in the previous example it does end up giving you a lower
    as we saw in the previous example it does end up giving you a lower

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    break-even point. Assuming you're right on the ultimate direction and if we go
    break-even point. Assuming you're right on the ultimate direction and if we go

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    back to that previous example, assuming the price does recover, you're gonna make
    back to that previous example, assuming the price does recover, you're gonna make

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    more profit on your holding because you've bought more and you've ended up
    more profit on your holding because you've bought more and you've ended up

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    with a lower average price. However, in reality it's often a sign that someone
    with a lower average price. However, in reality it's often a sign that someone

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    cannot admit when they're wrong and take that first manageable loss.
    cannot admit when they're wrong and take that first manageable loss.

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    They've got an aversion to losses and may just be gambling. So they bought
    They've got an aversion to losses and may just be gambling. So they bought

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    in at 50 because they thought 50 was a good price, rather than maybe having a
    in at 50 because they thought 50 was a good price, rather than maybe having a

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    stop-loss, they bought some more they - averaged down. One way of comparing this
    stop-loss, they bought some more they - averaged down. One way of comparing this

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    is the martingale approach in gambling. We talked about gambling here, where
    is the martingale approach in gambling. We talked about gambling here, where

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    people will double bets after a loss, and continue doubling their stake hoping
    people will double bets after a loss, and continue doubling their stake hoping

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    they're going to cover that initial loss. So in a nutshell it's adding to a losing
    they're going to cover that initial loss. So in a nutshell it's adding to a losing

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    position as the market moves against you. That's the theory - let's take a look at
    position as the market moves against you. That's the theory - let's take a look at

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    an extreme example in the real world. Let's take a look at the risks of averaging down.
    an extreme example in the real world. Let's take a look at the risks of averaging down.

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    I've got a US stock: General Electric here. Let's go to the
    I've got a US stock: General Electric here. Let's go to the

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    right-hand side of the chart, May 2017. The price is just below $28, you decide
    right-hand side of the chart, May 2017. The price is just below $28, you decide

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    to buy in. So let's say you buy some shares at $28, you buy a hundred shares,
    to buy in. So let's say you buy some shares at $28, you buy a hundred shares,

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    so that's $2,800 invested. Let's jump forwards a few months. It's now July 2017.
    so that's $2,800 invested. Let's jump forwards a few months. It's now July 2017.

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    The share price has slid, it's now trading around $25.50. You still have the
    The share price has slid, it's now trading around $25.50. You still have the

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    conviction so you decide to buy another hundred shares at 25.50 - this does bring
    conviction so you decide to buy another hundred shares at 25.50 - this does bring

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    your average down but you're adding to a losing position. Let's jump forward a few
    your average down but you're adding to a losing position. Let's jump forward a few

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    months again. It's now October, the price has slid further, so you bought initially
    months again. It's now October, the price has slid further, so you bought initially

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    at 28, they're now trading just above 23, you decide to average down again. And a
    at 28, they're now trading just above 23, you decide to average down again. And a

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    few months later the price is now trading at $18. So you need - if you want
    few months later the price is now trading at $18. So you need - if you want

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    to average down - you need to have more money again and you're adding to this
    to average down - you need to have more money again and you're adding to this

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    losing position, just look how far they've slid from that $28 mark. It would
    losing position, just look how far they've slid from that $28 mark. It would

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    have been much less painful to have had a stop loss when the trade was opened
    have been much less painful to have had a stop loss when the trade was opened

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    and come out for a manageable loss, rather than adding to the losing
    and come out for a manageable loss, rather than adding to the losing

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    position. And just to bring it up to the present day - at the time of recording - the
    position. And just to bring it up to the present day - at the time of recording - the

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    price was trading at $12. So it's more than halved from where you bought that
    price was trading at $12. So it's more than halved from where you bought that

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    initial bunch of shares at $28. So this is an extreme example but it does show
    initial bunch of shares at $28. So this is an extreme example but it does show

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    you the danger of adding to a loser; you're compounding your losses if the
    you the danger of adding to a loser; you're compounding your losses if the

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    market continues to slide and you're tying up money that could
    market continues to slide and you're tying up money that could

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    be used probably much better somewhere else. So that was an extreme example but
    be used probably much better somewhere else. So that was an extreme example but

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    you can see the risks. If the market continues to go against you, you're just
    you can see the risks. If the market continues to go against you, you're just

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    throwing good money after bad, and tying money up. So let's now take a look at the
    throwing good money after bad, and tying money up. So let's now take a look at the

  • 04:39

    steps we can take to make sure we don't get into this bad habit. So we've
    steps we can take to make sure we don't get into this bad habit. So we've

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    identified why averaging down is a problem for some traders because it
    identified why averaging down is a problem for some traders because it

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    means they're trying to avoid taking losses and taking small manageable losses is
    means they're trying to avoid taking losses and taking small manageable losses is

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    all part of trading. So when trading have a definite stop-loss level. If we're
    all part of trading. So when trading have a definite stop-loss level. If we're

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    buying at $50 in that example and we decide at $47 - if it falls to there I'm
    buying at $50 in that example and we decide at $47 - if it falls to there I'm

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    wrong - have the stop loss level there. If the market gets there take the loss.
    wrong - have the stop loss level there. If the market gets there take the loss.

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    Don't add to losing trades. If you've bought in and the market's sliding and
    Don't add to losing trades. If you've bought in and the market's sliding and

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    you're continually adding, you're clearly adding to your losing position, and if
    you're continually adding, you're clearly adding to your losing position, and if

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    you want to carry on averaging down you may need an enormous amount of money if
    you want to carry on averaging down you may need an enormous amount of money if

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    the market continues to slide. So it's often a good rule not to add to a losing
    the market continues to slide. So it's often a good rule not to add to a losing

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    trade - don't dig yourself deeper in the hole. Averaging up, however, is different.
    trade - don't dig yourself deeper in the hole. Averaging up, however, is different.

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    If the market starts moving in your favour there's nothing wrong to
    If the market starts moving in your favour there's nothing wrong to

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    having an approach and a plan to add in to your position. The market has started
    having an approach and a plan to add in to your position. The market has started

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    going the right way - the initial trade is winning - so you can
    going the right way - the initial trade is winning - so you can

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    always think about averaging in that way. So it's a cliche in trading but very
    always think about averaging in that way. So it's a cliche in trading but very

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    often the first loss is the best loss. Averaging down is really just
    often the first loss is the best loss. Averaging down is really just

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    compounding that loss so it's something as traders that we really do want to try
    compounding that loss so it's something as traders that we really do want to try

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    and avoid. I hope you found this video useful, they'll be a whole load more
    and avoid. I hope you found this video useful, they'll be a whole load more

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averaging
/ˈav(ə)rij/

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amount to or achieve as average rate or amount over period of time

Trading Bias: Averaging Down

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Intro:

In this video we're going to look at a common trading bad habit; averaging down.
What it is and how we can take steps to eliminate it. Hello I'm David Jones from
Capital.com and this is one of a series of videos that we're doing where we're
looking at trading biases or trading bad habits. Our trading platform has an
algorithm that will look at client behaviour and if it detects that maybe
they're slipping into bad habits we'll try and push them in a different
direction, to make them aware of the biases that they're developing. This time
around we're looking at the idea of averaging down. So first of all, what do I
actually mean by this. Let's take a look. So let's explore this trading bias of
averaging down. Let's go through an example, let's say - let's stick with
shares for now to keep it simple - let's say you buy a thousand shares in a
company at $50. Because you're expecting the price of course to go up. But you're
wrong, the price falls to $40. So what you do now [is] you buy an additional thousand
shares at $40 this is averaging down - not I am recommending it as an
approach. Your average price is now $45. So you bought a thousand at 50, you
bought another thousand at 40, so your average price - because you bought the
same amount- is the average of those two numbers, which is $45. So why does this
appeal to people? Well if you have a conviction in your trading-investing
view on that particular market, whether it's a share, or currency, or a commodity -
as we saw in the previous example it does end up giving you a lower

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