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  • 00:07

    HELLO!
    HELLO!

  • 00:08

    I'm Mr. Tarrou.
    I'm Mr. Tarrou.

  • 00:09

    Ok.
    Ok.

  • 00:10

    Part 2 of Log Transformations.
    Part 2 of Log Transformations.

  • 00:11

    We are going to talk about Power.
    We are going to talk about Power.

  • 00:13

    We just got done showing how if we take the y values, we have a curved scatter plot, if
    We just got done showing how if we take the y values, we have a curved scatter plot, if

  • 00:19

    we take the logged y values and then see that our transformed data is straight then the
    we take the logged y values and then see that our transformed data is straight then the

  • 00:25

    original data was exponential.
    original data was exponential.

  • 00:27

    And please go back and look at that video if you need to.
    And please go back and look at that video if you need to.

  • 00:29

    But now we are going to take part 2 which is looking at... or try to transform curved
    But now we are going to take part 2 which is looking at... or try to transform curved

  • 00:37

    data whether it curves up or down Power Rule.
    data whether it curves up or down Power Rule.

  • 00:42

    So if it is exponential, if your growth or decay is exponential all you have to do log
    So if it is exponential, if your growth or decay is exponential all you have to do log

  • 00:48

    the y's to make that scatter plot straight to make another scatter plot of the transformed
    the y's to make that scatter plot straight to make another scatter plot of the transformed

  • 00:53

    data to make it straight.
    data to make it straight.

  • 00:54

    Now we are going to talk about the Power Model.
    Now we are going to talk about the Power Model.

  • 00:58

    So if logging the y does not help make the scatter approximately linear, then you are
    So if logging the y does not help make the scatter approximately linear, then you are

  • 01:03

    also going to have to log the x's.
    also going to have to log the x's.

  • 01:05

    Now all of this is going to be as if the Power Model actually fits.
    Now all of this is going to be as if the Power Model actually fits.

  • 01:10

    Of you log the y's and do not get a linear pattern, then it is not exponential.
    Of you log the y's and do not get a linear pattern, then it is not exponential.

  • 01:16

    If you then also log the x's, so now both the x's and the y's are both logged, if your
    If you then also log the x's, so now both the x's and the y's are both logged, if your

  • 01:22

    scatter plot is still not straight then your original data was not exponential nor was
    scatter plot is still not straight then your original data was not exponential nor was

  • 01:27

    it power and well we are just stuck.
    it power and well we are just stuck.

  • 01:31

    Whatever that original data, whatever that curved scatter plot is, you are going to be
    Whatever that original data, whatever that curved scatter plot is, you are going to be

  • 01:35

    just stuck talking about that curved pattern.
    just stuck talking about that curved pattern.

  • 01:37

    Talking about the form, direction, and strength and any outliers and just describing what
    Talking about the form, direction, and strength and any outliers and just describing what

  • 01:43

    you see.
    you see.

  • 01:44

    But that is going to be it.
    But that is going to be it.

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    You are not going to be able to do any math analysis to it.
    You are not going to be able to do any math analysis to it.

  • 01:48

    Ok.
    Ok.

  • 01:49

    So let's see what that looks like.
    So let's see what that looks like.

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    This will not be a real long video.
    This will not be a real long video.

  • 01:52

    We have data.
    We have data.

  • 01:53

    It looks curved.
    It looks curved.

  • 01:54

    Again I have it curved up for some reason like the exponential was, but it can curve
    Again I have it curved up for some reason like the exponential was, but it can curve

  • 01:58

    down... this way...
    down... this way...

  • 01:59

    Whatever.
    Whatever.

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    It is not straight.
    It is not straight.

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    Yes! ok.
    Yes! ok.

  • 02:02

    So if the problem immediately tells you to check that is a Power Model or find the power
    So if the problem immediately tells you to check that is a Power Model or find the power

  • 02:08

    model, then you are going to go straight away and log the x and the y variables.
    model, then you are going to go straight away and log the x and the y variables.

  • 02:13

    And hopefully see that your transformed scatter plot is then approximately linear.
    And hopefully see that your transformed scatter plot is then approximately linear.

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    I will be talking again how to check for that linearity besides it just looks like it.
    I will be talking again how to check for that linearity besides it just looks like it.

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    If you log the x's the log the y's and you get a linear pattern, then your equation...
    If you log the x's the log the y's and you get a linear pattern, then your equation...

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    your least squares regression line, don't forget when you write it to put log next to
    your least squares regression line, don't forget when you write it to put log next to

  • 02:37

    the x and y variables.
    the x and y variables.

  • 02:38

    Now the calculator is not going to say the log of y hat is equal to a plus b times log
    Now the calculator is not going to say the log of y hat is equal to a plus b times log

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    of x.
    of x.

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    It is just going to give you the equation like it always does, y=a+bx.
    It is just going to give you the equation like it always does, y=a+bx.

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    'a' equals blank, 'b' equals blank, 'r' equals blank.
    'a' equals blank, 'b' equals blank, 'r' equals blank.

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    excuse me... and r^2 is blank.
    excuse me... and r^2 is blank.

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    Blank...
    Blank...

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    blankity blank blank!
    blankity blank blank!

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    But when you write your transformation, or when you write your regression line down after
    But when you write your transformation, or when you write your regression line down after

  • 03:03

    the transformation please remember to put log next to the x and y variables if indeed
    the transformation please remember to put log next to the x and y variables if indeed

  • 03:07

    that is what you did.
    that is what you did.

  • 03:08

    We will never just, or at least in my class, we will never just be logging the x's.
    We will never just, or at least in my class, we will never just be logging the x's.

  • 03:13

    It is always log the y's and then if it is straight it is exponential, or log both and
    It is always log the y's and then if it is straight it is exponential, or log both and

  • 03:18

    then if that works it is power.
    then if that works it is power.

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    If logging x and y makes a linear scatter then the original data is POWER!
    If logging x and y makes a linear scatter then the original data is POWER!

  • 03:36

    Ok, whatever.
    Ok, whatever.

  • 03:37

    [nanananana] Ok.
    [nanananana] Ok.

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    The second and last screen of this video.
    The second and last screen of this video.

  • 03:43

    Now my notes are in form of working with TI-83 and TI-84.
    Now my notes are in form of working with TI-83 and TI-84.

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    When I do my calculator lab which will probably be posted tomorrow if you are watching these
    When I do my calculator lab which will probably be posted tomorrow if you are watching these

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    as I get them out to you.
    as I get them out to you.

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    I will show you a lab with a TI-NSPIRE.
    I will show you a lab with a TI-NSPIRE.

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    I have a new color one so it is very exciting.
    I have a new color one so it is very exciting.

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    And a TI-84.
    And a TI-84.

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    So you will see how to use both of them.
    So you will see how to use both of them.

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    These notes are in terms of TI-83 and TI-84 use because that is what my students are using
    These notes are in terms of TI-83 and TI-84 use because that is what my students are using

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    this year before I hopefully get them to move onto INSPIRES next year.
    this year before I hopefully get them to move onto INSPIRES next year.

  • 04:16

    And these notes are as if you are just given data and you are asked to analyze it.
    And these notes are as if you are just given data and you are asked to analyze it.

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    You are not told ahead of time it is exponential and you are not told ahead of time it is power.
    You are not told ahead of time it is exponential and you are not told ahead of time it is power.

  • 04:26

    You are just given some x and y values, remember the explanatory variable goes on the x axis
    You are just given some x and y values, remember the explanatory variable goes on the x axis

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    and the response variable goes on the y.
    and the response variable goes on the y.

  • 04:33

    And we are just looking at it.
    And we are just looking at it.

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    So you put your x's and y's in list 1 and list 2.
    So you put your x's and y's in list 1 and list 2.

  • 04:40

    Maybe the scatter plot is curved.
    Maybe the scatter plot is curved.

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    You can't work with curved data so we are going to attempt to make it straight.
    You can't work with curved data so we are going to attempt to make it straight.

  • 04:45

    Well if you have no idea if it is Power or Exponential, the first thing you will do is
    Well if you have no idea if it is Power or Exponential, the first thing you will do is

  • 04:50

    log the y's.
    log the y's.

  • 04:52

    And I have got the notation you would use in your TI-83 or TI-84 up here above it.
    And I have got the notation you would use in your TI-83 or TI-84 up here above it.

  • 04:58

    And you will have the x's, the y's, log the y's and then make the scatter plot.
    And you will have the x's, the y's, log the y's and then make the scatter plot.

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    If it looks like it is straight make a regression line and check with a residual plot that it
    If it looks like it is straight make a regression line and check with a residual plot that it

  • 05:07

    is actually straight.
    is actually straight.

  • 05:08

    And maybe as soon as you make a scatter plot it is obviously not straight.
    And maybe as soon as you make a scatter plot it is obviously not straight.

  • 05:16

    Or maybe you have to go as far as making that residual plot before you see that the transformed
    Or maybe you have to go as far as making that residual plot before you see that the transformed

  • 05:21

    data is still curved.
    data is still curved.

  • 05:22

    At any rate we already covered exponential growth and decay.
    At any rate we already covered exponential growth and decay.

  • 05:26

    So whatever the case is, whether it is obviously curved or it looks curved after you make the
    So whatever the case is, whether it is obviously curved or it looks curved after you make the

  • 05:32

    residual plot, we are going to go back to our data list in the calculator and then log
    residual plot, we are going to go back to our data list in the calculator and then log

  • 05:37

    the x's because logging the y's did not give us a linear pattern.
    the x's because logging the y's did not give us a linear pattern.

  • 05:40

    And again, this is your trial and error idea.
    And again, this is your trial and error idea.

  • 05:43

    So you have your x's, your y's, you logged the y's to make it straight and it did not
    So you have your x's, your y's, you logged the y's to make it straight and it did not

  • 05:46

    work, and now you are logging the x's to make a straight linear pattern... approximately
    work, and now you are logging the x's to make a straight linear pattern... approximately

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    straight.
    straight.

  • 05:52

    That will be L4 equals the log of L1.
    That will be L4 equals the log of L1.

  • 05:55

    So these are the log of your x's.
    So these are the log of your x's.

  • 05:57

    And you make the scatter plot again.
    And you make the scatter plot again.

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    Now it looks like it is straight and you made the regression line again, and you made the
    Now it looks like it is straight and you made the regression line again, and you made the

  • 06:05

    residual plot again.
    residual plot again.

  • 06:06

    It is very monotonous with a TI-83 and TI-84.
    It is very monotonous with a TI-83 and TI-84.

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    It is almost happens instantaneously with an NSPIRE which you will see in the calculator
    It is almost happens instantaneously with an NSPIRE which you will see in the calculator

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    lab.
    lab.

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    But, you check your residuals and this is the process here.
    But, you check your residuals and this is the process here.

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    You are going to make your...
    You are going to make your...

  • 06:19

    To make a residual plot to verify that your transformed data is indeed linear, you are
    To make a residual plot to verify that your transformed data is indeed linear, you are

  • 06:24

    going to have to make the scatter plot.
    going to have to make the scatter plot.

  • 06:25

    That will be with L4 as the x axis and L3 as the y axis.
    That will be with L4 as the x axis and L3 as the y axis.

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    Make your regression line, again with L4... if you are following this pattern...
    Make your regression line, again with L4... if you are following this pattern...

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    L4 as your x and L3 as your y values.
    L4 as your x and L3 as your y values.

  • 06:43

    And then once you make your scatter plot and once you make your regression line, your calculator
    And then once you make your scatter plot and once you make your regression line, your calculator

  • 06:47

    is going to make all of your residuals for you.
    is going to make all of your residuals for you.

  • 06:49

    You are going to, with an 83 or 84, go to the list menu... go find where it says RESIDUAL
    You are going to, with an 83 or 84, go to the list menu... go find where it says RESIDUAL

  • 06:55

    and store those residuals into a list.
    and store those residuals into a list.

  • 06:58

    And if you are starting this from scratch, your empty list will be list five.
    And if you are starting this from scratch, your empty list will be list five.

  • 07:04

    Once you make and redo your...
    Once you make and redo your...

  • 07:07

    Well you are going to make another scatter plot which will be a residual plot.
    Well you are going to make another scatter plot which will be a residual plot.

  • 07:11

    Your logged x's will be on the x axis and your residuals will be on the y axis.
    Your logged x's will be on the x axis and your residuals will be on the y axis.

  • 07:17

    You want your residual plot to have a nice horizontal band of points with no clear curvature
    You want your residual plot to have a nice horizontal band of points with no clear curvature

  • 07:24

    to it.
    to it.

  • 07:25

    If you have that then your transformed data was indeed linear.
    If you have that then your transformed data was indeed linear.

  • 07:29

    Now remember, log the y's and get a linear pattern the original data was exponential.
    Now remember, log the y's and get a linear pattern the original data was exponential.

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    Log the x and the y's and get a linear pattern, your original data was then the power model.
    Log the x and the y's and get a linear pattern, your original data was then the power model.

  • 07:42

    Now we have done all of this, we have checked that our transformed data was linear, and
    Now we have done all of this, we have checked that our transformed data was linear, and

  • 07:48

    you get this and I have done this in general form.
    you get this and I have done this in general form.

  • 07:50

    You have got the log of y hat equals 'a' plus 'b' times the log of x.
    You have got the log of y hat equals 'a' plus 'b' times the log of x.

  • 07:55

    This model is of course fitting the transformed data.
    This model is of course fitting the transformed data.

  • 07:59

    Like I talked about in the last video, this is... some teachers teach this, some teachers
    Like I talked about in the last video, this is... some teachers teach this, some teachers

  • 08:05

    don't.
    don't.

  • 08:06

    But if we are statisticians and we are analyzing data, most people don't understand logarithms.
    But if we are statisticians and we are analyzing data, most people don't understand logarithms.

  • 08:10

    You might be struggling with them as well, so clearly you cannot go out and tell someone
    You might be struggling with them as well, so clearly you cannot go out and tell someone

  • 08:15

    these are the results and have them all in terms of logged values.
    these are the results and have them all in terms of logged values.

  • 08:19

    So how do you take this equation and manipulate it so that it actually models the original
    So how do you take this equation and manipulate it so that it actually models the original

  • 08:25

    data.
    data.

  • 08:26

    You know that original data that was curved.
    You know that original data that was curved.

  • 08:27

    You need to get the logs out of that function and you do that by making both sides of the
    You need to get the logs out of that function and you do that by making both sides of the

  • 08:31

    equation an exponent of ten.
    equation an exponent of ten.

  • 08:34

    And as I talk about in the last video that power of 10 is going to undo the common log
    And as I talk about in the last video that power of 10 is going to undo the common log

  • 08:39

    function.
    function.

  • 08:40

    You can go back and watch that video's end if you like.
    You can go back and watch that video's end if you like.

  • 08:42

    But the base ten and log base ten, if we don't write that it is assumed to be base ten, if
    But the base ten and log base ten, if we don't write that it is assumed to be base ten, if

  • 08:48

    they are stacked they will cancel out.
    they are stacked they will cancel out.

  • 08:50

    So immediately after making both sides an exponent of 10, the log function cancels out
    So immediately after making both sides an exponent of 10, the log function cancels out

  • 08:54

    and you get y hat... equals...
    and you get y hat... equals...

  • 08:57

    Now it is 10 to the a+b*log(x) power.
    Now it is 10 to the a+b*log(x) power.

  • 09:04

    So the exponent has two things being added together.
    So the exponent has two things being added together.

  • 09:07

    When do you add exponents?
    When do you add exponents?

  • 09:08

    When you are multiplying like bases.
    When you are multiplying like bases.

  • 09:11

    So 10 the a times 10 to the b log of x.
    So 10 the a times 10 to the b log of x.

  • 09:15

    Great.
    Great.

  • 09:16

    But this is still not going to cancel out because 10 and log base 10 are not immediately
    But this is still not going to cancel out because 10 and log base 10 are not immediately

  • 09:21

    stacked on top of each other.
    stacked on top of each other.

  • 09:24

    So what do you do?
    So what do you do?

  • 09:25

    Use one of your properties of logarithms that allows you to take your leading coefficient
    Use one of your properties of logarithms that allows you to take your leading coefficient

  • 09:29

    and float it up as an exponent.
    and float it up as an exponent.

  • 09:32

    That is right.
    That is right.

  • 09:34

    So now you have got y hat equals 10^a times 10 to the log of x to the b power.
    So now you have got y hat equals 10^a times 10 to the log of x to the b power.

  • 09:41

    So it is a base with an exponent, and that exponent has an exponent.
    So it is a base with an exponent, and that exponent has an exponent.

  • 09:46

    Well not, but floating the b up, the log function with a base of ten is stacked on a base of
    Well not, but floating the b up, the log function with a base of ten is stacked on a base of

  • 09:52

    ten.
    ten.

  • 09:53

    They are going to cancel out.
    They are going to cancel out.

  • 09:54

    Badda Bing, Badda Boom! y hat equals 10^a .... excuse me... 10^a times x^b.
    Badda Bing, Badda Boom! y hat equals 10^a .... excuse me... 10^a times x^b.

  • 10:03

    Now this is not a form that you would see in your book.
    Now this is not a form that you would see in your book.

  • 10:08

    If you are actually working with your calculator you will know what 'a' is and this will actually
    If you are actually working with your calculator you will know what 'a' is and this will actually

  • 10:13

    be a decimal of some form.
    be a decimal of some form.

  • 10:15

    'b' will be some kind of decimal, probably a decimal exponent.
    'b' will be some kind of decimal, probably a decimal exponent.

  • 10:19

    But this is the model, the Power Model.
    But this is the model, the Power Model.

  • 10:23

    See how the base is x.
    See how the base is x.

  • 10:24

    I am going to repeat that on this side of the notes here.
    I am going to repeat that on this side of the notes here.

  • 10:26

    Our exponent, excuse me... our base is now our variable of x.
    Our exponent, excuse me... our base is now our variable of x.

  • 10:32

    Unlike the exponential functions where the x was in the exponent.
    Unlike the exponential functions where the x was in the exponent.

  • 10:37

    And this is modeling or original data.
    And this is modeling or original data.

  • 10:38

    Our original data followed the Power Model.
    Our original data followed the Power Model.

  • 10:40

    So you can go back to the original graph, the original list one and list two... put
    So you can go back to the original graph, the original list one and list two... put

  • 10:45

    this in the Y sub 1 and it should follow that original curved data fairly well.
    this in the Y sub 1 and it should follow that original curved data fairly well.

  • 10:51

    So, again residual plots will check for linearity.
    So, again residual plots will check for linearity.

  • 10:54

    You will be seeing a calculator lab about that shortly.
    You will be seeing a calculator lab about that shortly.

  • 10:57

    Again, this is possibly what the power model will look like in your textbook.
    Again, this is possibly what the power model will look like in your textbook.

  • 11:02

    It might use different variables.
    It might use different variables.

  • 11:04

    But again you have an initial value which is c... times a base which is your variable...
    But again you have an initial value which is c... times a base which is your variable...

  • 11:10

    and the exponent now is fixed unlike with the exponential model which is where the exponent
    and the exponent now is fixed unlike with the exponential model which is where the exponent

  • 11:14

    was changing and the base was fixed.
    was changing and the base was fixed.

  • 11:17

    And that is the Power Model and that is the end of my lecture.
    And that is the Power Model and that is the end of my lecture.

  • 11:20

    BAM!
    BAM!

  • 11:21

    Go do your homework!
    Go do your homework!

  • 11:22

    I will say it again.
    I will say it again.

  • 11:28

    BAM!
    BAM!

  • 11:30

    [haha]
    [haha]

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Log Transformations Part 2

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HELLO!. I'm Mr. Tarrou.. Ok.. Part 2 of Log Transformations.. We are going to talk about Power.. We just got done showing how if we take the y values, we have a curved scatter plot, if
we take the logged y values and then see that our transformed data is straight then the
original data was exponential.. And please go back and look at that video if you need to.
But now we are going to take part 2 which is looking at... or try to transform curved
data whether it curves up or down Power Rule.. So if it is exponential, if your growth or decay is exponential all you have to do log
the y's to make that scatter plot straight to make another scatter plot of the transformed
data to make it straight.. Now we are going to talk about the Power Model.. So if logging the y does not help make the scatter approximately linear, then you are
also going to have to log the x's.. Now all of this is going to be as if the Power Model actually fits.
Of you log the y's and do not get a linear pattern, then it is not exponential.
If you then also log the x's, so now both the x's and the y's are both logged, if your

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/ˈskadər/

noun other verb

small, dispersed amount of something. To place or leave things in various places. To throw or move into various different directions.

/ˈlo͝okiNG/

adjective verb

having specified appearance. To appear to be when you look at them; seem.

/əˈrijənl/

adjective noun

first or earliest. earliest form of something.

/tran(t)sˈfôrm/

noun verb

product of transformation. make thorough or dramatic change in form.

/ˈak(t)SH(o͞o)əlē/

adverb

Used to add new (often different) information.

/streNG(k)TH/

noun

Condition of being strong.

/(h)wətˈevər/

adjective adverb determiner exclamation pronoun

Referring to any particular kind, type, quantity. at all. Anything or everything needed; no matter what. said as response indicating reluctance to discuss something, often implying indifference. used for emphasis instead of 'what' in questions.

/ˈ(h)weT͟Hər/

conjunction

expressing doubt or choice between alternatives.