Welcome back to the Keep Productive YouTube channel on today's feature. We're taking a look at Coda
Welcome back to the Keep Productive YouTube channel on today's feature. We're taking a look at Coda

2.0. This is the second version of coda
2.0. This is the second version of coda

Officially released and we'll be diving into some of the features. They've been taking a lot of time to channel it towards teams
Officially released and we'll be diving into some of the features. They've been taking a lot of time to channel it towards teams

So we'll jump over to laptop diamond too some of the features that are very specific for teams
So we'll jump over to laptop diamond too some of the features that are very specific for teams

Then we're gonna sort of second half of this go through a few of your questions
Then we're gonna sort of second half of this go through a few of your questions

And I know that in the Facebook groups. A lot of people have been asking should I go for notion or coder?
And I know that in the Facebook groups. A lot of people have been asking should I go for notion or coder?

and hopefully we'll have a little bit of a mailbox breakdown of some of those questions and also
and hopefully we'll have a little bit of a mailbox breakdown of some of those questions and also

You know give you a bit of advice about which one to choose so guys
You know give you a bit of advice about which one to choose so guys

Let's jump into today's video
Let's jump into today's video

So for those who don't know coda have released a
So for those who don't know coda have released a

Second version and as I mentioned they've been tearing it towards the teams sign of staff
Second version and as I mentioned they've been tearing it towards the teams sign of staff

So they've got I'd say two major things
So they've got I'd say two major things

They've got a bunch of new features that allow you to share collaborate and coordinate
They've got a bunch of new features that allow you to share collaborate and coordinate

Documents better, but they've also got a new billing system
Documents better, but they've also got a new billing system

Which I will talk to you guys around on the PC in my opinion
Which I will talk to you guys around on the PC in my opinion

It's a little bit complicated to understand and actually took me a few minutes to really click in how it works
It's a little bit complicated to understand and actually took me a few minutes to really click in how it works

So hopefully I can decipher that for you there. Okay. So here we are on the coda release blog
So hopefully I can decipher that for you there. Okay. So here we are on the coda release blog

I'll jump over to the application in a moment
I'll jump over to the application in a moment

Now I would recommend reading this because it goes into a bit more detail
Now I would recommend reading this because it goes into a bit more detail

And sort of outlines a few of the ways in reasons why they decided to go to a more team focused experience
And sort of outlines a few of the ways in reasons why they decided to go to a more team focused experience

Now as you can imagine you can still use it individually. The one thing I want to point it towards is towards these
Now as you can imagine you can still use it individually. The one thing I want to point it towards is towards these

galaxies chance that they've created and
galaxies chance that they've created and

Showcasing. I guess what a team's use of the application coder is in the span of a week to give you a bit of an
Showcasing. I guess what a team's use of the application coder is in the span of a week to give you a bit of an

idea of the sort of typical use cases
idea of the sort of typical use cases

of the data they've aggregated so I'll include that in the link in description if you want to find out more and
of the data they've aggregated so I'll include that in the link in description if you want to find out more and

And learn more about how they're using it in terms of document access and users
And learn more about how they're using it in terms of document access and users

So just to recap a few of the things that they've previously done to make it easier for teams
So just to recap a few of the things that they've previously done to make it easier for teams

They've introduced easier filtering and conditional formats the drag-and-drop templates
They've introduced easier filtering and conditional formats the drag-and-drop templates

Which can be accessed from the indoor templates
Which can be accessed from the indoor templates

Bar on the side was actually something that is a real competitive edge against apps like notion
Bar on the side was actually something that is a real competitive edge against apps like notion

Especially when it comes to doing a little bit of work and then adding
Especially when it comes to doing a little bit of work and then adding

Elements in they've also worked on the visual refresh as well as performance improvements in making the application speedier on web
Elements in they've also worked on the visual refresh as well as performance improvements in making the application speedier on web

So some of the things that they've introduced in this latest update is the workspaces and folders
So some of the things that they've introduced in this latest update is the workspaces and folders

This is something they didn't have before. It was just a continuous stream of
This is something they didn't have before. It was just a continuous stream of

Documents that you can access and obviously a stored ensign of Google Drive. I still believe they're stored inside of Google Drive
Documents that you can access and obviously a stored ensign of Google Drive. I still believe they're stored inside of Google Drive

I will check in the billing side of stuff, but you can now create folders and also
I will check in the billing side of stuff, but you can now create folders and also

Workspaces for you and your team to get started you can join and leave them which makes it a lot easier. So they've also introduced
Workspaces for you and your team to get started you can join and leave them which makes it a lot easier. So they've also introduced

Locking which allows you to lock documents and sections so that teams don't necessarily
Locking which allows you to lock documents and sections so that teams don't necessarily

engage with the experience so that you don't necessarily, you know lose information or for example
engage with the experience so that you don't necessarily, you know lose information or for example

somebody might edit the structure of a document and that could be
somebody might edit the structure of a document and that could be

Detrimental to your productivity that something they have introduced
Detrimental to your productivity that something they have introduced

So they've also introduced cross Doc's which is something that I know a lot of people have been asking for
So they've also introduced cross Doc's which is something that I know a lot of people have been asking for

Now inside of coda, you've got things called packs which can essentially connect with other applications
Now inside of coda, you've got things called packs which can essentially connect with other applications

But the good thing is for example
But the good thing is for example

if you had a database inside of one with mainly 2020 goals and
if you had a database inside of one with mainly 2020 goals and

you went to
you went to

another document and
another document and

paste it in there it syncs the tables between the
paste it in there it syncs the tables between the

Documents so you don't necessarily have to make changes you make changes across the board
Documents so you don't necessarily have to make changes you make changes across the board

Which is something I know a lot of people will thoroughly enjoy now
Which is something I know a lot of people will thoroughly enjoy now

They have have stated in the release that this is a first iteration of the cross document so they do intend to listen to feedback
They have have stated in the release that this is a first iteration of the cross document so they do intend to listen to feedback

Naturally, so the one thing we've introduced in coda 2.0 is also the cross browser support stead of just working in chrome in
Naturally, so the one thing we've introduced in coda 2.0 is also the cross browser support stead of just working in chrome in

now works in Safari and Firefox
now works in Safari and Firefox

But that will be in beta
But that will be in beta

So that's good news that they're spanning across all of the other web sites
So that's good news that they're spanning across all of the other web sites

Now they have introduced pricing between teams and this is something I want to talk about
Now they have introduced pricing between teams and this is something I want to talk about

It's actually called maker billing so I will actually bring up the page and explain it to you
It's actually called maker billing so I will actually bring up the page and explain it to you

But basically they've introduced three four main pricing tiers
But basically they've introduced three four main pricing tiers

But three ones that are paid so you've got pro team or Enterprise plans
But three ones that are paid so you've got pro team or Enterprise plans

The one thing I'd say is I'm really happy. They introduced the pricing
The one thing I'd say is I'm really happy. They introduced the pricing

It's always good when a company introduces pricing because it means they're focusing towards
It's always good when a company introduces pricing because it means they're focusing towards

Sustainability and not necessarily on
Sustainability and not necessarily on

creating the free products that might necessarily run out in a couple of years if it just gets too much and we saw that with
creating the free products that might necessarily run out in a couple of years if it just gets too much and we saw that with

A lot of applications in the past. So I did mention it was a little bit complicated to explain
A lot of applications in the past. So I did mention it was a little bit complicated to explain

I mean
I mean

I view this on mobile and it was quite hard to explain but this is seems to be a little bit easier on web
I view this on mobile and it was quite hard to explain but this is seems to be a little bit easier on web

So here we are. It's called make a billing. You have a guest to re sort of tiers
So here we are. It's called make a billing. You have a guest to re sort of tiers

You've got pro team and enterprise but they've introduced something called dock makers
You've got pro team and enterprise but they've introduced something called dock makers

So a donk maker is someone who creates the documents in your team, which makes sense because you normally have a dedicated
So a donk maker is someone who creates the documents in your team, which makes sense because you normally have a dedicated

You know wizard to an application that you guys are working on. You also have editors and viewers
You know wizard to an application that you guys are working on. You also have editors and viewers

So a dock maker is paid experience editors is included and viewers always comes free
So a dock maker is paid experience editors is included and viewers always comes free

When it comes to editing, so what you can do to start out with is choose. How many people in your team?
When it comes to editing, so what you can do to start out with is choose. How many people in your team?

so if you say I've got 15 people on my team and I need to make two doc makers you can actually change how many
so if you say I've got 15 people on my team and I need to make two doc makers you can actually change how many

Documents to dedicated or one but you get an idea with that cost
Documents to dedicated or one but you get an idea with that cost

It is 78 dollars a month on the team plan, which works out at five dollars 20 per person
It is 78 dollars a month on the team plan, which works out at five dollars 20 per person

So here's the sort of breakdown
So here's the sort of breakdown

So free you get unlimited editors and doc makers unlimited viewers
So free you get unlimited editors and doc makers unlimited viewers

However, your dock size is limited very similar to notion
However, your dock size is limited very similar to notion

You have 50 objects which includes sections tables views
You have 50 objects which includes sections tables views

Buttons and controls and formula and a thousand rows per document
Buttons and controls and formula and a thousand rows per document

So you're going to be limited, especially on the free plan if that's a solo user you might have to look at the pro experience
So you're going to be limited, especially on the free plan if that's a solo user you might have to look at the pro experience

But you've also got automations which are locked in at 35 time-based and a hundred row changed
But you've also got automations which are locked in at 35 time-based and a hundred row changed

automations per month per document
automations per month per document

So you're going to have to be looking at your usage, and you've also got the packs
So you're going to have to be looking at your usage, and you've also got the packs

Limited to I guess their general social media ones as well as a few of the sport ones with slack treemail Twilio
Limited to I guess their general social media ones as well as a few of the sport ones with slack treemail Twilio

Calendar Shopify and Google trend. No that's cool stocks all included in the pro plan
Calendar Shopify and Google trend. No that's cool stocks all included in the pro plan

now there's no necessarily document protection, which means for example if you want to utilize the locking function
now there's no necessarily document protection, which means for example if you want to utilize the locking function

which we mentioned earlier that's going to be included in the
which we mentioned earlier that's going to be included in the

Team plans onwards and you won't have the cross doc experience that I mentioned before
Team plans onwards and you won't have the cross doc experience that I mentioned before

You've also only got seven days of version history, which should be utilized enough for one person
You've also only got seven days of version history, which should be utilized enough for one person

However, that leaps up to 30 days in the pro experience. You do have access to the unlimited folders
However, that leaps up to 30 days in the pro experience. You do have access to the unlimited folders

But you won't have any of the advanced admin billing that comes with some of the team and enterprise plans
But you won't have any of the advanced admin billing that comes with some of the team and enterprise plans

now, of course, they have a bit of fa Q's at the bottom, but if you for example
now, of course, they have a bit of fa Q's at the bottom, but if you for example

We're looking at more of a power user. Then this one might be moves more suitable for you
We're looking at more of a power user. Then this one might be moves more suitable for you

So you get everything that's in free plus two free editors per doc maker as well as unlimited viewers
So you get everything that's in free plus two free editors per doc maker as well as unlimited viewers

There's no there's no size of the files
There's no there's no size of the files

So this might be suitable for someone that maybe already pays for a personal plan on notion. So someone that's really committed to
So this might be suitable for someone that maybe already pays for a personal plan on notion. So someone that's really committed to

Utilizing this as a personal experience I'd say this is more the personal plan
Utilizing this as a personal experience I'd say this is more the personal plan

It doesn't have the doc protection or cross platform
It doesn't have the doc protection or cross platform

But it's got 30 days of virgin history as well as priority support and that's $10 per month
But it's got 30 days of virgin history as well as priority support and that's $10 per month

And that's the annual pricing if you wanted the monthly pricing is $12. And if you're looking at team plans you will have
And that's the annual pricing if you wanted the monthly pricing is $12. And if you're looking at team plans you will have

$36 per month per doc maker you get free five free editors per doc maker
$36 per month per doc maker you get free five free editors per doc maker

Which allow you to edit a file so it's gonna take a few moments to understand this in terms of how it applies to you
Which allow you to edit a file so it's gonna take a few moments to understand this in terms of how it applies to you

and your team but the best way to sort of
and your team but the best way to sort of

Be able to detect how much is gonna cost of a team is really up here with this sort of pricing analysis
Be able to detect how much is gonna cost of a team is really up here with this sort of pricing analysis

Now in Sunday the team plan, you do get the locking the permissions which are coming soon
Now in Sunday the team plan, you do get the locking the permissions which are coming soon

the cross docks
the cross docks

Unlimited version history as well as the coming zoom team template gallery as well as private folders
Unlimited version history as well as the coming zoom team template gallery as well as private folders

You do get a few more security and support
You do get a few more security and support

Additions, but as you can imagine this is good news overall that they've introduced pricing
Additions, but as you can imagine this is good news overall that they've introduced pricing

I'm sure they all I guess so iron out how its explained
I'm sure they all I guess so iron out how its explained

but maybe they just need a video to explain it because maybe it's just me being a bit of a
but maybe they just need a video to explain it because maybe it's just me being a bit of a

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So jumping on to you the questions side of stuff the first question
So jumping on to you the questions side of stuff the first question

I typically get from people is should I go for coder or notion when it comes to personal use?
I typically get from people is should I go for coder or notion when it comes to personal use?

Now the great thing is coder a notion work in very similar ways
Now the great thing is coder a notion work in very similar ways

There are plenty templates on Coda's allow you to do some personal management in terms of creating a to-do list
There are plenty templates on Coda's allow you to do some personal management in terms of creating a to-do list

Managing a calendar and they do have some exciting automations in integrations that allow you to connect it with apps like Google
Managing a calendar and they do have some exciting automations in integrations that allow you to connect it with apps like Google

Calendar but the only thing I see different between the two is that
Calendar but the only thing I see different between the two is that

Coda is definitely more tailored towards teams. It always has even before this update
Coda is definitely more tailored towards teams. It always has even before this update

allowing teams to do much more interactive things and bring together all
allowing teams to do much more interactive things and bring together all

The stuff their team needs to know inside of one area
The stuff their team needs to know inside of one area

It's a really good play by coder
It's a really good play by coder

Because teams are their market
Because teams are their market

Coming from Google Documents many people know how a document works and in combining it with some
Coming from Google Documents many people know how a document works and in combining it with some

new-age features like databases that Khoda bring to the table is really easy for them to understand and
new-age features like databases that Khoda bring to the table is really easy for them to understand and

Teams can start using this doc maker thing to be able to actually build
Teams can start using this doc maker thing to be able to actually build

documents and really work with their team on
documents and really work with their team on

Coordinating what a great base looks like so this can be a great opportunity for them to do project management
Coordinating what a great base looks like so this can be a great opportunity for them to do project management

be able to coordinate some of their
be able to coordinate some of their

Marketing activities or sales activities or HR activities in these database like formats. So when I
Marketing activities or sales activities or HR activities in these database like formats. So when I

Normally recommend stuff I say notion is great for a personal wiki and managing stuff and code is more suitable for teams
Normally recommend stuff I say notion is great for a personal wiki and managing stuff and code is more suitable for teams

Although I don't at all the rollout notion for team use I would just say coder
Although I don't at all the rollout notion for team use I would just say coder

Tends to be more approachable for teams that are new
Tends to be more approachable for teams that are new

To that sort of management the document and the building of applications is something that people can get used to encoder
To that sort of management the document and the building of applications is something that people can get used to encoder

So I do get the question again it relates to notion about which is better
So I do get the question again it relates to notion about which is better

and of course that really depends on your experience, but in terms of the feature sets
and of course that really depends on your experience, but in terms of the feature sets

Notion has some really strong features like data bases and the design as well is a really attractive extent
Notion has some really strong features like data bases and the design as well is a really attractive extent

But I think what a lot of people sort of miss out. Is that coda has
But I think what a lot of people sort of miss out. Is that coda has

Three things that are quite exciting they have something called packs, which allow you to connect up with other applications
Three things that are quite exciting they have something called packs, which allow you to connect up with other applications

This is something that is yet to be introduced inside of notion
This is something that is yet to be introduced inside of notion

You've also got automations, which allow you to roll out rules for each of your databases
You've also got automations, which allow you to roll out rules for each of your databases

So that's something that a lot of people like to have because they can connect up with apps. They already use
So that's something that a lot of people like to have because they can connect up with apps. They already use

Finally the templates, although notion is really up there template game
Finally the templates, although notion is really up there template game

The template abilities in sign of coder are I would say a little bit banner in terms of allowing people to have in dump
The template abilities in sign of coder are I would say a little bit banner in terms of allowing people to have in dump

Templates which you can drag a drop inside to save you a bit of time and that's really really great
Templates which you can drag a drop inside to save you a bit of time and that's really really great

I would also mention that an additional thing that people like to see especially teams is the
I would also mention that an additional thing that people like to see especially teams is the

Formula abilities and they've really cleaned and smooth this out so that you can understand it further
Formula abilities and they've really cleaned and smooth this out so that you can understand it further

So again formula and being able to sort of go a bit deeper with each of the databases
So again formula and being able to sort of go a bit deeper with each of the databases

With each of the databases or tables that you've created really can take a lot further especially for the doc makers
With each of the databases or tables that you've created really can take a lot further especially for the doc makers

So guys I really hope that was an overview that you found useful
So guys I really hope that was an overview that you found useful

Please do. Let me know if you have any questions in the comments. I do need to do a revised code of vs
Please do. Let me know if you have any questions in the comments. I do need to do a revised code of vs

Notion helping you find out which one's more suitable
Notion helping you find out which one's more suitable

Especially many of you are looking at the modular space these modular apps that help me to organize
Especially many of you are looking at the modular space these modular apps that help me to organize

We will be doing some internal wiki stuff. So please do stay tuned for that
We will be doing some internal wiki stuff. So please do stay tuned for that

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