Jon: hey this is Jon. Tim: and i'm Tim. Jon:  and we're gonna look at the comments section  
Jon: hey this is Jon. Tim: and i'm Tim. Jon:  and we're gonna look at the comments section  

in our video called abraham and melchizedek
in our video called abraham and melchizedek

Jon:  
Jon:  

it's the second video in a six  part series on the royal priest  
it's the second video in a six  part series on the royal priest  

and we just love the great questions  you're asking so let's jump in  
and we just love the great questions  you're asking so let's jump in  

Klara G what about the priestly line of shem.  Tim: mm what about the priestly line of shem  
Klara G what about the priestly line of shem.  Tim: mm what about the priestly line of shem  

you know what's interesting is uh so shem  he's one of noah's sons uh and he has two  
you know what's interesting is uh so shem  he's one of noah's sons uh and he has two  

other brothers and they all with their wives  get off the ark in genesis chapter nine and what  
other brothers and they all with their wives  get off the ark in genesis chapter nine and what  

we're told is that shem was the only son of noah  that ended up being blessed by his father and um  
we're told is that shem was the only son of noah  that ended up being blessed by his father and um  

and there you go that's shem and then we're  we're told about the son that he has and then  
and there you go that's shem and then we're  we're told about the son that he has and then  

he lives like for a long time and then he dies  if you follow uh the dates of how long he lives  
he lives like for a long time and then he dies  if you follow uh the dates of how long he lives  

he's actually theoretically still alive uh in the  time of abraham so when abraham meets melchizedek  
he's actually theoretically still alive uh in the  time of abraham so when abraham meets melchizedek  

in the city of shalem there's a very ancient  jewish and a christian interpretation that thinks  
in the city of shalem there's a very ancient  jewish and a christian interpretation that thinks  

that melchizedek is either ancient  old aged shem um or a descendant of  
that melchizedek is either ancient  old aged shem um or a descendant of  

of shem because he has knowledge of the one true  God um there's nothing about that in the text so  
of shem because he has knowledge of the one true  God um there's nothing about that in the text so  

that's all that's all yeah or it's inference um  but what it raises is a question of like how does  
that's all that's all yeah or it's inference um  but what it raises is a question of like how does  

this uh non-pre-israelite priest have this really  solid bond- Jon: Melchizedek. Tim: yeah- Jon:  
this uh non-pre-israelite priest have this really  solid bond- Jon: Melchizedek. Tim: yeah- Jon:  

talking about Melchizedek. Tim: yeah yes how  does this yeah how does he have such a solid bond  
talking about Melchizedek. Tim: yeah yes how  does this yeah how does he have such a solid bond  

with the same God that called abraham out of  mesopotamia and the narrative itself provides  
with the same God that called abraham out of  mesopotamia and the narrative itself provides  

no answers to that question and so as people have  looked for like well where could where could this  
no answers to that question and so as people have  looked for like well where could where could this  

guy have come from of course its potential that  he came from the line of shem if that were true  
guy have come from of course its potential that  he came from the line of shem if that were true  

then abraham and melchizedek are relatives  and there's nothing in the text about that  
then abraham and melchizedek are relatives  and there's nothing in the text about that  

but it's an interesting question  that inquiring people want to know
but it's an interesting question  that inquiring people want to know

Jon:  
Jon:  

paranoid rabbit how old was isaac you say he was  given and then promptly to be sacrificed but he  
paranoid rabbit how old was isaac you say he was  given and then promptly to be sacrificed but he  

wasn't a baby as you show him as a small child  oh show him how old do we show him i think don't  
wasn't a baby as you show him as a small child  oh show him how old do we show him i think don't  

we go like pre-teen pre-teen maybe yeah yeah some  accounts have him being a teenager or a young man  
we go like pre-teen pre-teen maybe yeah yeah some  accounts have him being a teenager or a young man  

it may make a little difference to some  people but i'd like to know if abraham  
it may make a little difference to some  people but i'd like to know if abraham  

was probably told to sacrifice his baby but  disobeyed God until isaac was a young man  
was probably told to sacrifice his baby but  disobeyed God until isaac was a young man  

i find that significant. Tim: yeah no yeah in  the narrative why we said promptly is because  
i find that significant. Tim: yeah no yeah in  the narrative why we said promptly is because  

the in the literary ordering isaac is born in  genesis 21 God tests abraham in genesis 22. so it  
the in the literary ordering isaac is born in  genesis 21 God tests abraham in genesis 22. so it  

feels promptly in the narrative sequence because  one chapter he's isaac's born the next chapter  
feels promptly in the narrative sequence because  one chapter he's isaac's born the next chapter  

is the story of the binding  of isaac so that's why we said  
is the story of the binding  of isaac so that's why we said  

promptly so the narrative doesn't say what age  isaac was uh usually interpreters are relying  
promptly so the narrative doesn't say what age  isaac was uh usually interpreters are relying  

on details given elsewhere in the story but  that aren't explicit so that that's interesting
on details given elsewhere in the story but  that aren't explicit so that that's interesting

Jon:  
Jon:  

stock trader i have a doubt if God helped  melchizedek win over his enemies are they  
stock trader i have a doubt if God helped  melchizedek win over his enemies are they  

not the children of God and why does God take  sides rather helping them to solve the issue  
not the children of God and why does God take  sides rather helping them to solve the issue  

resulting in peace between both sides i think  he's referring to abraham winning over his  
resulting in peace between both sides i think  he's referring to abraham winning over his  

enemies- Tim: yeah right right right. Jon: um  which melchizedek seems fine with- Tim: yeah  
enemies- Tim: yeah right right right. Jon: um  which melchizedek seems fine with- Tim: yeah  

or what melchizedek tells abraham is hey if you  didn't know um the reason why you and your little  
or what melchizedek tells abraham is hey if you  didn't know um the reason why you and your little  

318 person like commando unit could win a gorilla  raid on four like imperial kings that's a really  
318 person like commando unit could win a gorilla  raid on four like imperial kings that's a really  

um you know unlikely scenario and melchizedek says  you know it was it was God most high who delivered  
um you know unlikely scenario and melchizedek says  you know it was it was God most high who delivered  

your enemies- Jon: so melchizedek is saying that  God takes sides. Tim: well what he's saying is um  
your enemies- Jon: so melchizedek is saying that  God takes sides. Tim: well what he's saying is um  

uh in normal circumstances you would have gotten  you know quite wiped out yeah um but the God  
uh in normal circumstances you would have gotten  you know quite wiped out yeah um but the God  

most high yeah delivered your enemies into your  hand. yeah you know so uh here we're invited into  
most high yeah delivered your enemies into your  hand. yeah you know so uh here we're invited into  

a real mysterious part of the purpose of God and  when God chooses one family the family of abraham  
a real mysterious part of the purpose of God and  when God chooses one family the family of abraham  

and so that through them he can restore his  blessings to all of the other nations he's also-  
and so that through them he can restore his  blessings to all of the other nations he's also-  

God's obligating God's own self to defend and take  care of and protect this family- Jon: he makes a  
God's obligating God's own self to defend and take  care of and protect this family- Jon: he makes a  

promise to do it. Tim: exactly he says i'll bless  those who bless you like melchizedek and those who  
promise to do it. Tim: exactly he says i'll bless  those who bless you like melchizedek and those who  

treat you like you're cursed God says i will treat  them like they're cursed and so um God takes sides  
treat you like you're cursed God says i will treat  them like they're cursed and so um God takes sides  

when he's chosen someone to give his blessing  through them so in the story of abraham that means  
when he's chosen someone to give his blessing  through them so in the story of abraham that means  

delivering his enemies into his hands what's  interesting if you follow the story all the  
delivering his enemies into his hands what's  interesting if you follow the story all the  

way through the bible leading up to Jesus Jesus  is the chosen one and the way that God empowers  
way through the bible leading up to Jesus Jesus  is the chosen one and the way that God empowers  

Jesus by the spirit to overcome his enemies is to  let them kill him so their god also takes sides  
Jesus by the spirit to overcome his enemies is to  let them kill him so their god also takes sides  

but in a inverted way and Jesus's victory-  Jon: then he says go to all the nations saying  
but in a inverted way and Jesus's victory-  Jon: then he says go to all the nations saying  

everyone's on my side- Tim: totally yeah- Jon: i'm  on everyone's side- Tim: yeah that's right yeah  
everyone's on my side- Tim: totally yeah- Jon: i'm  on everyone's side- Tim: yeah that's right yeah  

so uh you can't just stop with the abraham and  melchizedek story um you have to keep on reading  
so uh you can't just stop with the abraham and  melchizedek story um you have to keep on reading  

through- Jon: on our long list is a theme video  on the chosen one. Tim: yeah yes that's right
through- Jon: on our long list is a theme video  on the chosen one. Tim: yeah yes that's right

Jon: all right Jen Klen why wasn't  adoption an option for abraham and sarah  
Jon: all right Jen Klen why wasn't  adoption an option for abraham and sarah  

why did slaves need to be involved  why were they enslaved anyways  
why did slaves need to be involved  why were they enslaved anyways  

y'all acting like slavery was normal.  Jon: so yeah uh abraham and sarah had  
y'all acting like slavery was normal.  Jon: so yeah uh abraham and sarah had  

um what we call slaves yeah um and one of those  slaves their idea was yeah um have a baby with her  
um what we call slaves yeah um and one of those  slaves their idea was yeah um have a baby with her  

since we can't have a baby. Tim: yeah yeah that's  right yes slavery um was normal for them what's  
since we can't have a baby. Tim: yeah yeah that's  right yes slavery um was normal for them what's  

interesting is if you read the abraham narratives  closely the narrative is actually very critical  
interesting is if you read the abraham narratives  closely the narrative is actually very critical  

of how abraham and sarah acquired slaves and  what they did with them biblical narratives  
of how abraham and sarah acquired slaves and  what they did with them biblical narratives  

remember don't often come out and just say yeah  what they did was wrong what they'll often do is  
remember don't often come out and just say yeah  what they did was wrong what they'll often do is  

show you characters making a choice and then if  disaster happens that is the narrative's way of  
show you characters making a choice and then if  disaster happens that is the narrative's way of  

saying yeah that was the wrong thing to do so  um abraham and sarah acquired hagar the egyptian  
saying yeah that was the wrong thing to do so  um abraham and sarah acquired hagar the egyptian  

slave through treachery and deceit and lying yeah  um and then they end up oppressing and abusing  
slave through treachery and deceit and lying yeah  um and then they end up oppressing and abusing  

um hagar- Jon: and then sending her away- Tim:  and then sending her away and it ends up that  
um hagar- Jon: and then sending her away- Tim:  and then sending her away and it ends up that  

hagar's son ishmael ends up having descendants  that come back and are hostile- Jon: yeah  
hagar's son ishmael ends up having descendants  that come back and are hostile- Jon: yeah  

it creates like generation after generation of  problems. Tim: totally, so slavery was normal for  
it creates like generation after generation of  problems. Tim: totally, so slavery was normal for  

them and what they did to their slave ended up uh  really destroying a lot of relationships and it's  
them and what they did to their slave ended up uh  really destroying a lot of relationships and it's  

a part of the bible's portrait of how slavery is  a really destructive institution- Jon: and even  
a part of the bible's portrait of how slavery is  a really destructive institution- Jon: and even  

though it was normal. Tim: even though it was  normal for the people in the times of the bible
though it was normal. Tim: even though it was  normal for the people in the times of the bible

Jon: corey hayes loved the video but i got a  question why did it say that melchizedek brought  
Jon: corey hayes loved the video but i got a  question why did it say that melchizedek brought  

out a great feast for abraham when the bible was  pretty specific that he just served bread and wine  
out a great feast for abraham when the bible was  pretty specific that he just served bread and wine  

why do we call bread and wine a great feast. Tim:  you know it's funny the hebrew word bread lechem  
why do we call bread and wine a great feast. Tim:  you know it's funny the hebrew word bread lechem  

actually can refer to more than just bread-  Jon: oh okay- Tim: um so although it can just  
actually can refer to more than just bread-  Jon: oh okay- Tim: um so although it can just  

mean a loaf of bread- Jon: yeah- Tim: um when  you say bread and wine it's not just like- Jon:  
mean a loaf of bread- Jon: yeah- Tim: um when  you say bread and wine it's not just like- Jon:  

it's not communion- Tim: no no no- Jon: it's  not it's not like the starter platter- Tim: no  
it's not communion- Tim: no no no- Jon: it's  not it's not like the starter platter- Tim: no  

lechem has two meanings it can mean a loaf of  bread or... do we have a word like that in english  
lechem has two meanings it can mean a loaf of  bread or... do we have a word like that in english  

one specific kind of food can also just refer  to all foods. Jon: there's a funny word um it's  
one specific kind of food can also just refer  to all foods. Jon: there's a funny word um it's  

it's ziddles no- Tim: vittles? Jon: vittles!  skittles! Tim: vittles- Jon: vittles
it's ziddles no- Tim: vittles? Jon: vittles!  skittles! Tim: vittles- Jon: vittles

Tim: okay there you go so anyway it was a feast  
Tim: okay there you go so anyway it was a feast  

a feast a feast of blessing on the on  the high place with the high priest
a feast a feast of blessing on the on  the high place with the high priest

Jon: tyler hall how was melchizedek a priest  before abraham Tim: yeah- Jon: how was there  
Jon: tyler hall how was melchizedek a priest  before abraham Tim: yeah- Jon: how was there  

a pre-jerusalem was shalem established after  the tower of babel was melchizedek a royal  
a pre-jerusalem was shalem established after  the tower of babel was melchizedek a royal  

priest like the royal kingdom of heaven was  melchizedek a spiritual being there's a lot  
priest like the royal kingdom of heaven was  melchizedek a spiritual being there's a lot  

of questions- Tim: a lot of questions in  there um well uh how is he a priest before  
of questions- Tim: a lot of questions in  there um well uh how is he a priest before  

abraham- Jon: so there's priests all over the  ancient world- Tim: yeah totally yeah- Jon:  
abraham- Jon: so there's priests all over the  ancient world- Tim: yeah totally yeah- Jon:  

for all different types of gods- Tim: yep yeah  and melchizedek um i mean it's an untold story  
for all different types of gods- Tim: yep yeah  and melchizedek um i mean it's an untold story  

that's of course why there's so many questions  it's because of the story is not told  
that's of course why there's so many questions  it's because of the story is not told  

it just presents him as somebody who's got a long  history with the same God that called abraham out  
it just presents him as somebody who's got a long  history with the same God that called abraham out  

of mesopotamia- Jon: if you're interested in a  deeper dive on the mystery of melchizedek we have  
of mesopotamia- Jon: if you're interested in a  deeper dive on the mystery of melchizedek we have  

a podcast episode with uh professor josh matthews  who has written about him extensively yeah so  
a podcast episode with uh professor josh matthews  who has written about him extensively yeah so  

shalem was a city that existed- Tim: in psalm 78  shalem is also called mount zion or jerusalem but  
shalem was a city that existed- Tim: in psalm 78  shalem is also called mount zion or jerusalem but  

um yeah in other words jerusalem was established  by king david- Jon: the people that lived there  
um yeah in other words jerusalem was established  by king david- Jon: the people that lived there  

before- Tim: the capital city but he took it  over as an existing city from canaanites who  
before- Tim: the capital city but he took it  over as an existing city from canaanites who  

were living there and the canaanites had  all kinds of people groups who would live  
were living there and the canaanites had  all kinds of people groups who would live  

it's a it's a really well positioned city uh with  water nearby on a hill good protection so people  
it's a it's a really well positioned city uh with  water nearby on a hill good protection so people  

have been living there a long time including  melchizedek- Jon: and was he a spiritual being?!
have been living there a long time including  melchizedek- Jon: and was he a spiritual being?!

Tim: the narrative doesn't say- Jon: some  people think so- Tim: a lot a lot of people  
Tim: the narrative doesn't say- Jon: some  people think so- Tim: a lot a lot of people  

have thought so- Jon: uh and he could have been  a normal dude just a priest- Tim: that's right
have thought so- Jon: uh and he could have been  a normal dude just a priest- Tim: that's right

Jon:  
Jon:  

one more comment charles- Tim: rothhauser- Jon:  rothhauser how were adam and eve supposed to  
one more comment charles- Tim: rothhauser- Jon:  rothhauser how were adam and eve supposed to  

rule the world and be in the garden of eden  how were adam and eve supposed to rule the  
rule the world and be in the garden of eden  how were adam and eve supposed to rule the  

world and be in the garden- Tim: oh i see the  question is how could they rule the world if  
world and be in the garden- Tim: oh i see the  question is how could they rule the world if  

they're just in- Jon: one garden- Tim: one  little garden- Jon: yeah- Tim: yeah well the  
they're just in- Jon: one garden- Tim: one  little garden- Jon: yeah- Tim: yeah well the  

commission was to be fruitful and multiply-  Jon: and fill the earth- Tim: and yeah fill  
commission was to be fruitful and multiply-  Jon: and fill the earth- Tim: and yeah fill  

yeah fill the land- Jon: spread the garden-  Tim: yeah spread the garden essentially  
yeah fill the land- Jon: spread the garden-  Tim: yeah spread the garden essentially  

yeah it's like they're god's caretakers and uh  you know if you if you teach your children how to  
yeah it's like they're god's caretakers and uh  you know if you if you teach your children how to  

oversee the garden with wisdom and love and  justice then uh they'll go spread the love  
oversee the garden with wisdom and love and  justice then uh they'll go spread the love  

spread the love spread- Jon: as the image of God-  Tim: yeah that's right i mean gardens are meant to  
spread the love spread- Jon: as the image of God-  Tim: yeah that's right i mean gardens are meant to  

grow yeah yeah so are people- Jon: and and  they need to be cared for or they de-create
grow yeah yeah so are people- Jon: and and  they need to be cared for or they de-create

Jon: alright thank you so much for your questions  and interacting with this video you have wonderful  
Jon: alright thank you so much for your questions  and interacting with this video you have wonderful  

questions we're excited to uh continue to read  them and i hope you're enjoying the royal priest  
questions we're excited to uh continue to read  them and i hope you're enjoying the royal priest  

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