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it's April 20th 2020,
and supposedly people are sitting at home.
I don't know what you're doing at home,
but I'm sure some people are getting kind of anxious.
Some people are very happy for the time off,
but the date's important because what is going on in the world right now has
never happened in the history of the world. I mean,
I knew our leaders were screwed up, but not this screwed up.
I mean,
how can you shut down the whole world economy as the reason that's really good
news is because both the fed and the treasury that's supposed to be separate,
but they're now scratching. Each other's back was privilege.
They were never separate at all.
And most people that doesn't make any sense to them.
But about 1999,
I wrote this book has color rich dad's prophecy.
And it says why the biggest stock market crash in history is still coming and
how you can prepare yourself and profit from it.
And the crash market that market I was talking about was the.com market.
In 2002, the white UK crash and says center.
We had the 2008 crash. And if you in and I called that,
I was on Wolf Blitzer's program in January of 2008. And I said,
Lehmann brothers was going to go down and Wolf gone. Oh duh.
So if you don't believe me,
he got our rich dad and you can see me on CNN with Wolf Blitzer,
with one of the agents of wall street. I won't mention her name,
but anyway, anyway, I said,
this book here said 1999,
I was calling it way out 2016 would be the crash date.
What I did not foresee was quantitative easing and ZIRP
nor did I see a shut it down the whole damn world
economy. So the crash is bigger than I thought. So I,
in March of 2020 was the biggest crash in world history of the
stock market.
But nobody knows anything about it because everybody's quarantined at home
thinking about Corona viruses and social distancing and wearing face
mask.
So people are missing out on one of the biggest catastrophic cash highs in the
history of the world. They don't even know what's happening. Now.
The good news is it's the good news and the bad news about money.
I'm going to make a fortune. This is the best.
This is the best time if you're ready for it.
So I want you guys who are sitting at home, you know,
licking your wounds and wondering when you're going to go back to work.
And so you can get your lattes and cappuccinos and pizzas just
know you might be missing one of the biggest opportunities in the history of the
world because our governments have really screwed up.
And I won't talk about conspiracy, but something's fishy.
How about this Corona crisis as something very fit,
why did they have to shut down the whole damn world?
And I think is because are covering up something very, very big.
And December meeting is September, 2019,
the shadow banking system collapsed.
And that's why the fed and the treasury are printing tens of trillions of
dollars all over the world. So when Corona appeared,
I think it was an excuse to shut down the world economy to cover up what really
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And our guest today is an old friend, ours, Jeff Wang.
He's the expert on crypto. And I love crypto.
I don't have any, I have a little bit,
but there is that I like crypto is for one reason,
it's outside the system. It doesn't depend on the fed,
the federal reserve bank or the treasury or wall street.
Now you like wall street,
you'll you believe in investing for the longterm in the stock market for your
retirement? I'll take laps around the rosary beads tonight. Yes. Crude. I mean,
you're really a screwed up. If you think you're going to retire on that,
you don't care how young you are.
So that way we have Jeff Wang and I want to talk,
he's going to talk to about crypto, the good, the bad, the ugly of crypto.
So Jeff is in San Francisco right now. So Jeff, welcome to the program.
Please give us a little bit of your background.
Hello there.
So I'm a technologist from a bunch of big tech companies recently joined a
startup that we just raised $24 million called Tonkin. Uh,
but I've been involved in crypto for quite a while now.
And we started as an investment group and just getting into the whole craze.
But then we found out we had to mobilize,
we actually had to create a whole group up. We call ourselves rocketfuel.team.
And actually our deals started from just like a couple thousand, each of,
initially to millions of dollars, uh,
after we started piling on the profits over and over again. Uh,
so we got really into the space.
We know everything from the good and the bad of the space. Uh,
but really for me,
my philosophy is to be a technologist first and then go from a VC investor
mindset as to what's happening in the future.
So we can go buy a year by year play if we want later. But overall,
I feel like that's how we got into this space.
And that's why we're still writing about this space.
Cause it's constantly evolving and agreement.
It grows increasingly more complex.
Correct. So, uh,
could you explain how Bitcoin is separate from the fed,
the treasury and wall street that, see that's the reason I endorsed it.
I don't trust those guys if you trust them by mutual funds. Right?
So first thing to realize is, is a digital currency,
which is kind of strange because if me and you wanted to make a digital
currency, what does that even mean? Right there? Do you control some ledger,
some Excel sheet that has how much we both have?
So Bitcoin came out around using this blockchain technology so that both of us
actually control the same ledger.
The same source of record is controlled by both of us.
And later on that ledger grew to thousands and thousands of other operators and
all Bitcoin is,
is a history of the transactions from different keys.
So as long as I have a 64 digit key, that stores money,
and I could use that key to send you money and you could use your key and send
other people money. Nobody controls it. Nobody can just stop it, right?
I can just ban because there's no, there's no way you can ban Bitcoin.
So it's floating out there across borders. There's no borders for Bitcoin,
but it's being traded for other assets.
It's actually the biggest asset to trade into other cryptocurrencies.
So when we say that it cannot be governed or there's no policy around Bitcoin,
there's just simply no way to control it.
But so my point here is this okay?
As the governments right now, all over the world,
I printing literally trillions of dollars. And they're trying to,
they're trying to pay off debt as denominated in dollars.
So that means a U S dollar gets stronger because any dollars to pay off the
debt.
And when you heard that there were printing trillions of dollars as a
Bitcoin person, what goes through your mind? Is that good or bad for you?
Um, if you are heavy in Bitcoin,
it is good for you because the coin has been inversely correlated with the
dollar, uh, in terms of the dollar compared to the other basket of currencies.
So if the dollar crashes or goes bad, Bitcoin is going to go up historically.
That's just how it's happened. Uh, Bitcoin has also been tied to other assets,
but only in various times, uh, to get just a brief summary,
Bitcoin was pretty much tied to the S and P 500 for a little bit.
And then as the oil crashed in March, I believe everything got liquidated.
So Bitcoin is considered a risky asset because it is volatile. And then it was,
no,
it was not shielded away from all the capital being taken out of the markets.
So I just want to make sure that people realize it's not really correlated with
any asset.
I'd say it's like a hedge or a actually insurance to any other assets that
you're holding.
Yes. And that's exactly the term I use.
You see my last tweet I talk about,
I don't consider Bitcoin gold or silver investments.
I concern them insurance policies against the idiots running the fed,
the treasury and wall street.
And they're a bunch of criminals as far as I'm concerned because our printing
trillions of trillions of dollars at the same time causing billions of
people to go unemployed, are you nuts? Are you nuts? I mean, I cut.
This is like heaven of what I know for people sending out home, they're going,
Oh, I've lost my job. I can't pay my mortgage. And I understand, you know,
he can't pay the car payments and all this,
but the name of this program is rich dad radio show the good news and bad news
about money. So if you're sitting at home contemplating enable navels saying,
well, can I get my cocktail and job back? Or, you know,
what restaurant am I going to work for next?
I think you missed the biggest opportunity in world history.
That's my point of view. So as a crypto guy, uh,
could you, what would you say to somebody who thinks this is a bad time?
Why is it a good time for you guys?
Well, we actually analyze every crypto, well, not every cryptocurrency,
the major cryptocurrencies on a milestone basis. So in different month periods,
we actually predict kind of what prices each coin is going to go.
And over the long run, it's, it's gets harder and harder to analyze, obviously,
even with the coronavirus fears. And we don't know when people are coming back,
it's getting harder to project almost any asset.
But if you do have a thesis that the dollar is going to decrease in value
compared to other currencies, if you go by that thesis, Bitcoin will eventually,
you know, should go up in the longterm cryptocurrencies as a whole.
We can get into that. It's a whole ecosystem out there. Also,
it starts benefiting from the decentralization of governments and their policies
as well.
Okay. And so today is April 20th, 2020.
It was the price of Bitcoin today.
It's about 6,800, I believe
6,800. Angela, do you consider it a high or low?
I consider it at the right price. I'll tell you what our newsletter said.
We predicted there going to be $10,000 by may, uh, because of, uh,
it's a thing called a halving what's happening to me having to have anything.
It's a, it's a joke because happening's not really the word. Um,
but inflation for Bitcoin is gonna get cut in half. So based off our newsletter,
we have milestone based, you know, uh, price points. We thought $10,000 by may.
So I actually hit $10,000 in February. So we were like, okay, well, here we are.
We've reached our point. What's happens next. Uh, after oil crashed in March,
it crashed again today to negatives, but when it crashed in March, uh,
all the capital came out of Bitcoin. That was a great opportunity again,
to put your money in. I predict though that after the happening,
there'll be less mining incentive. So it's inflation has cut.
There's less infrastructure to support the system because there's just not going
to be breakeven. Yeah. I just want to say Bitcoin is going to go down.
I think in may. That's my prediction.
It's going to go down less. Good news.
Yeah. So in may, there'll be a correction that is a good place to get in, is my,
you know, just my opinion.
Right, right, right, right. That's all. That's. And by the way, rich,
that makes no recommendations. We don't say buy this or sell that or do this,
or do that. We're purely educational company. So we have our producer here,
Sara, and she doesn't trust you guys. So sorry,
Jeff. I trust you wholeheartedly. I don't understand. So you have to understand,
I'm asking these questions out of pure ignorance. Um, so two years ago,
I know Bitcoin was around 20,000. I want to say,
like it was around that peak.
And I was telling Robert that I don't understand it it's as volatile
to me as the stock market.
So you really have to play the same kind of game as the stock market.
And so I'm not understanding what's the, where's this benefit where as you know,
if I were an investor looking to buy Bitcoin.
Yeah. So I don't think Bitcoin itself as a currency,
it's not something that I would go out and spend it.
There's just too many problems with the volatility.
There's actually very slow transaction speeds for me.
What I look at is the technology itself,
how that can be applied to other use cases in the world, uh,
which we'll go into I'm sure later. And that is where I look.
So I don't actually have that much Bitcoin. I actually look at Ethereum.
I look at the centralized finance projects. I've were three teams going,
and there's a lot of startups that are trying to scale blockchain technology as
well. Then I look into until we also, uh, so as an investor in Bitcoin, uh,
I would just put that as a diversification piece.
I wouldn't say that's like something to go all in that I'm gonna use it to spend
as a global currency. That's not the case.
So you wouldn't invest in it because it's going to go to a hundred thousand.
I do not think it's going to go to a hundred thousand.
I understand that. But you wouldn't,
you wouldn't use that and that logic because that's what people do.
Yeah. But I see people do that with silver and gold. You know, people are,
you know, like they're calling for a $50,000 gold and $20,000 silver.
And that sucks a lot of people in. Yep. So what was you saying to that?
So somebody says Bitcoin's going to a hundred thousand.
Why would you say that's a bad idea or you wouldn't touch it?
I can give a few data points as to what happens with the other countries that
have info currency crushes.
They actually fled to Bitcoin as a safe Haven because it's one way to get out,
right? You can buy Bitcoin, it holds its currency against a USD.
And then if their currency goes hyperinflation, they still have some,
some digital asset that can be traded. Although, again,
it's just on a USB drive or tonic piece of paper,
but at least they can flood to that as a safe Haven with golden silver,
it's actually kind of hard to trade it for some people globally, uh,
with Bitcoin it's 24/7, you can trade at whatever you want.
So that's where I say is kind of the difference between gold and silver in terms
of what is backing the coin. Uh,
mainly it's kind of the trading volume and then the entrance,
it's a Fiat gateway into other cryptocurrencies.
So I'll, I'll let you take over from here because you guys are way over my head.
I have some Ethereum, what is a Ethereum?
So Ethereum,
it takes blockchain technology and it added a concept called smart contracts.
So basically I could create a smart contract between you and me. Robert,
it's just a, a auditable piece of code that we can send money to. And let's say,
you're paying me salary a hundred dollars a week for whatever,
just a be on the phone to call you.
So you can just put in $10,000 in this smart contract and it'll automatically
pay me. There'll be no, I think in between,
there's nothing in between at all me.
And you could just operate on this small little piece of code that does any
mainstream thing.
So people took that concept and they built entire applications on it.
So the entire applications that can do almost anything it's a little bit slow
right now. So it's not shown any real value in the world yet,
but the advancements of Ethereum 2.0,
which are coming later this year are trying to remedy that problem.
Okay. So when we come back, we'll go, we'll let Jeff continue on.
Talk about what he knows about, you know,
especially what happens if we go to us federal reserve crypto or
Chinese crypto and all that.
Cause that's kind of the rumors I hear out there in the market.
And so my question is why buy Bitcoin or Ethereum,
if everybody can manufacture it. So wait, come back,
we'll be talking to Jeff Wang again.
He's a sec is a second appearance on rich dad.
And he is our go to guy when I need to know what the hell is going on with the
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So I guess today is Jeff Wang is a second appearance of the rich dad show.
He's the host of rocket fuel, crypto.com rocket fuel, crypto, God calm.
And part of the avid investment group.
Rocket fuel team has invested over 40 blockchain
projects. So he's more an investor in this whole world.
And he's a technologist from Cisco Salesforce as racy joined the
automatic, the automation startup, Tonken, T O N K E N,
which announced a $24 million raise last week and has also
filed two blockchain patents in the last year.
So this guy knows what he's talking about.
So he's not like me just sitting around and trying to make a few bucks here.
So Jeff, you know, my concern as an old guy is,
was to prevent all, everybody from just coming out with their own crypto. Like,
you know, what's this Facebook has that. What do they have now?
Libra,
Libra. What the hell is that?
So it might help to kind of talk about the advancement of cryptocurrency through
the years, 2017, 2018. When we saw the Heights of the bubble,
we saw it was like a year speculation people. This is,
this technology would change the world, but no one really knew why.
So all these startups came up to fruition. They had initial coin offerings.
IKOS people had this value creation from thin air from just ideas from just
white paper, right? But money did fly into the ecosystem.
A lot of smart people were in there making these startups and then 2019 hit.
We kind of figured out, well, is there a product market fit?
Nobody is really gonna use this if it comes out, right?
So a lot of money then came out of crypto.
So right now there's the only form of investing in crypto right now.
That's popular is the initial exchange offering.
Now EO and those are still very profitable and that's stuff we talked about in
the newsletter, but right now is a globalization on this technology.
Just this year, the world economic forum published the CBDC framework,
CBDC stands for central bank digital currency.
So it actually is teaching all these countries how to make their own
cryptocurrencies.
China has been ahead of the curve the whole time they are coming out with theirs
this year. Very likely they already have a pilot out. There's this called?
DECP digital exchange. So your digital currency, electronic payment, PCP.
So I know you wanted to say something, I'll let you I'll pause there.
No, no, no. I mean, so, so my whole,
my limited experience there is I like gold and silver.
It takes a lot of time at MIT to pull this crap out of the gun.
Cause I've started to,
I started a goldmine in China and the Chinese took it and ahead of a
silver mine in Argentina, which I still have.
And so I understand mining from that point of, I understand the public markets,
I took them through IPLS on the Toronto stock exchange.
I just don't understand your world wants to provide, you know,
so that's why I'm asking you. What about labor? What about,
what about the fed coin? You said they're not coming out with one, but what,
how do we maintain value if everybody's going to just make their own coins?
Let's let's look at each of them. Individually.
Facebook obviously is a central entity.
It's a company that is creating a non, non, not for profit organization.
That's rallied around an organization of different people.
So like we have venture capitalists, we have utility companies,
we have payment companies. We have like, Uber is involved for example,
and nobody actually owns this, this a association. Everyone just has a vote.
And they had created a currency that they were,
they originally were going to back it as one currency.
Now it's going to be multiple currencies tied to each currency in the country.
So USD coin you'll have a pound coin, a Euro coin. That's one,
that's one model, right?
The other model is the China model where they say this is going to be the
China's currency.
And we are going to distribute it through all our tech companies.
They already have 10 cent involved.
They have Alibaba and all their biggest banks.
They're all involved in distributing this currency. And the question is like,
how is this going to change the world?
How is this going to affect other cryptocurrencies, right?
And how it will affect them is a little more unclear other than the fact that
it does provide another means to get to outside of the system.
Because what we're talking about right now is still a centralized system,
either from the top, the top down,
which is China going down to the people or Facebook and upright,
it's going from the people to the governments.
Now Facebook is running into huge resistance from other governments from going
across borders. China just does what China wants. They say, we want a currency.
We're going to make it.
When you mentioned Facebook,
are you talking about Libra or just Facebook having its own.
So phase last me a long time ago.
Yeah. Facebook will get in trouble. If they say it is their currency.
So what they've done is they funded a,
another entity in Geneva that is going to be the owner of this new currency.
So they have tried to detach themselves away from it as much as possible.
So why would, what's the advantage to Facebook for having Libra?
The reason I mentioned that is because more people know about Facebook and the
sin called Libra than the other stuff you mentioned. So why,
what Facebook want to start laborer?
So the primary reason is to expand into other countries that don't have very
good banking systems. So if all I need, again is a key to generate a wallet,
to accept payments. I can now build a business in any country,
as long as there's money coming in,
as long as money can be transferred within that country. That's what,
that's what that's that Facebook's primary reason to begin with.
So it's going to bypass the banking system and the business system of let's say,
Spain, is that what it's doing?
Or, or in unbanked areas like in Africa where it's harder to get a bank account,
it's harder to get money into Africa or convert it into a U S dollar
equivalent. So the moment you have that money within the country,
you actually have a payment system already set up all around Facebook's
ecosystem. They have their own wallet called Cali, bro.
And basically you can run a business entirely on Facebook's infrastructure.
Now, when you have China, China is having another one.
Wait, wait, wait a minute. So stay on Facebook.
So Facebook will start its own ecosystem internally with Libra. Correct.
And so the, why would a country let's say Kenya, not like it,
or why would they like it?
There'll be a less dependence on whatever local currency there's going to be.
Right? Like if Kenya has a currency, that's tied to some value,
all of a sudden there's this other payments system that's coming in and people
might just accept Libra with that business.
You could run your Facebook marketplace page.
You can accept payments with Libra and then you could interact with anybody
around the world as long as you're using Libra. Right.
So why can't they do that with Bitcoin?
So again,
we talked about with the volatility of Bitcoin and the transfer speed of Bitcoin
has issues. So Bitcoin,
you don't want to spend Bitcoin because it's fluctuating in value.
You might feel bad if you bought a coffee and a Bitcoin went up in value. Right.
For example, also Bitcoin does take around,
it takes a few minutes to actually send. So I, again,
I personally don't consider Bitcoin a currency.
I do consider it more of a store of value or an insurance against other
fluctuating markets.
Okay.
So the other countries would not want laborer simply because you compete with
our central bank. Correct. And so how much pushback are they getting
so much pushback? I believe a few European countries have already been Libra.
They said like, there's no way this is going to fly. Right. And so unless,
unless lever was pegged by the Europe, right.
And then you could transfer Euro in and out.
Okay. So what's happening with China? I hear they're going to,
China's going to have a goal back crypto.
Uh, actually, so they were making an RNB version of their currency. Uh,
it's going to be distributed through their top, uh, you know,
all the big tech companies, all the banks,
they all have the implementation in the app.
And basically you will still own the money.
Like you can sign into any app with your bank account, if that makes sense.
Right? No, I use my key for this and I can spend the money. There it is.
It's actually a very novel idea on the flip side,
if I'm a foreigner visiting China,
I actually need to verify my identity and I need to use that system.
I'm not going to be able to use cash. Like I was before cash. We we'll see,
probably go away as a result of the DCP.
Right. China's already cashless. Yeah. Yeah.
So you make money betting on the future success of
these sayings. Are they investing in them or how do you make,
because you're not, you're not buying Bitcoin. Like I would buy it as a,
as a hedge. You you're buying and more in like, like I did, when I,
when I created my mining company in China to take it public,
I was doing it for the shares of Canadian stock.
Yeah. So it's, uh,
it is a little complicated because they're still structured as some sort of
agreement, uh, in venture capital.
There's a thing called like a convertible notes. I can, uh, you know,
either lend you money and then it converts equity. In this case,
a lot of these projects, there are convertible to tokens,
which is really a unit of measurement token.
It's just simply something sitting on their blockchain or an Ethereum
representation of that's, you know, service. And then that is,
that has some value if their startup goes live.
So we would be helping out these companies lending them money for
convertible to token, and then using that token for their ecosystem.
And then this eventually became ICS. It eventually became [inaudible]. Uh,
and then, uh,
well it's an IEO is a,
uh, initial exchange offering.
So basically now the crypto exchanges are offering these currencies.
So that's what I mean, it's, it's,
it's no more than what I saw going on in wall street there isn't I don't like
stocks and mutual funds is I know that game too well
[inaudible]
and I don't trust it. So I'm, I'm,
I'm clear at 100% out of the stock market cause they can play so many games are
on a stock, as you know. And so when I finally got out of my,
I got an a, when China took my goal mine, you know,
I realized it was cheaper to buy gold, try.
I raised $27 million with this coal mine in hopes that I would get my
money back. When I think went public through an IPO, you guys call them ICLs.
So I was doing it for the stock. I wasn't doing it for the gold.
That makes any sense that people listing is that similar to how your mind works?
So with different currencies,
there's a different milestone kind of structure,
basically in a stock market you have yeah. Like a revenue, right.
Revenues growing number of customers is growing adoption is growing number of
users with cryptocurrencies. It's more about, well,
does the technology actually work? That's one milestone, right? Is it,
did it launch on that test that successfully? Uh, what is it,
did it list on different cryptos changes successfully? Uh,
is there different media events that they have to announce different things it's
completely speculative, right?
It's not even getting to the market to the public market fit.
It's more about the technology, the development, and then the hype. Right? So,
so in our newsletter, we,
we be sure to point that out and not get fooled by it as well.
Okay. So somebody like me comes to you and you guys have raised 24 million.
So I'm kind of hoping to be one of the insiders, you know, called the founding.
You know, when you read a stock offering, as, as founding shareholders,
I always wanted to be the founding shareholder.
I didn't want to be a shareholder. I want to be a founding shareholder.
I want to be buying my shares at a penny and exiting a 25 cents.
That was the game. Is that similar to what you guys do?
It's exactly what it is. Right?
All of these ICOs are purely from the seed round.
So people don't have any money right now.
They're raising money to start their startup.
The problem is startups in general have what, less than a 1% chance of exit. Uh,
but these coins go liquid liquid immediately. Right?
Once they go on exchange they're liquid, they can fluctuate in price. Uh,
there was a project that had Googled sign-on as a partner and then it went up
like 700%. So you're just wondering like, okay,
is this sustainable in the long term? Right. Obviously that one partnership,
it doesn't mean it's seven extra value. So basically longterm,
you have to be very careful as to when price jumps happen,
but there's also moments in time where you can kind of say this price is
actually low enough to speculate on and hope for that big jump. Right.
So is that what rocket fuel team does?
You guys advise people on what's hot and what's not what's coming on what to
watch out for.
So we talked to startups in the seed round stage, if they, you know,
is their idea even good, right? Is it, is it not a scam, right.
We don't want to work with you if you're just going to try to make money out of
it and leave. Right. So what we want we try to do is just analyze the company.
See if it's worthwhile,
we have a network of other venture capitalists firms as well.
And we just make sure that everybody's on the same page,
that this isn't some scam for investors.
We're not even talking about the public yet. Right? It gets, it becomes a scam,
the public for other projects elsewhere.
But we want to make sure that what we put money in.
If we put money with Ethereum into a startup, that it is indeed a good startup,
right. We look at the team,
we look at the economics and we look at other things.
Would you recommend anybody buy Bitcoin as a hedge right now? I mean, you know,
like a guy like me,
the reason I got excited about it is that Tom has gone up to a hundred thousand.
So, you know, idiot like me, we'll just jump right in.
Tell me where I'm screwed up. Thinking like that.
I think it is not, it's not likely to go to a hundred thousand, right?
I can't imagine anyone buying it from somebody at a hundred thousand dollars.
It just doesn't make sense to me.
I do think because there's a negative correlation to the dollar.
You see the fed printing trillions of dollars, that it is possible that,
you know, Bitcoin is a good as a diversification play.
If you're looking at the technology and the advancement in technology like me,
I look more into Ethereum and some of the projects in Ethereum.
So my pick point holding is actually very low. I anticipate a drop in may.
Like I said, just because inflation will be having right.
So, okay. So that's coming in may
correct. The news though,
I think will probably push the price up just because that's what he says.
What's the possibility that, you know, those are rich dad, Bitcoin,
and everybody's out there pumping their own Bitcoin or their own cyber
currency. Is that possible?
It happens all the time in this world.
I try to scold people that do that all the time. If you were,
if you were to do that, I would just start asking you questions.
What's the value creation.
What is it that the customer gets if they purchased this coin for me? Right.
And a lot of times founders just have no idea what to respond with.
And in those cases, I,
I know it's something that's fishy and then I try to get out. Right,
right. So Sarah has a question for you because she doesn't trust you guys.
And Jeff, I trust you. I do give her a hard time.
What stops one of the code writers or developers from hitting delete
and wiping one of these cryptos out.
So these, these currencies are all supported by a network of people,
a network of servers.
So the worst a person can do is try to attack it with hardware.
And then that's just going to be futile. It's gonna,
it's not going to work like you could, you can turn off a server,
but the whole network of servers still exist with this ledger. So in, in,
in a short summary, it's not really possible,
but isn't that because it's open source. I mean,
this is not like in a centralized location,
correct.
It is completely distributed amongst thousands and thousands of servers,
right? So the white one out the other ethical at 10,000 guys up,
get it all wiped out.
And then you also have no idea who these guys are.
Right. The last question I have is this, as you know, Peter Schiff, he's,
he is a,
he's a gold and silver guy and somebody gave him some
Bitcoin. He lost it. How does that,
how does a person lose Bitcoin?
So the 64 digit key we talked about with whether it's on a USB drive,
whether it's on your phone or a piece of paper, if you lose that,
then you can not transfer that coin out or those coins out.
So that has one of the biggest, uh, you know,
things that's bugging crypto right now.
How do we keep cryptocurrency keys and key management in a better format?
And that's other, you know, in all the technologies that we're exploring,
that's definitely one area we're looking at as well.
So how does a person like may not lose my key or whatever it is,
uh,
the typical way is having a backup and then putting it in your sock drawer on a
piece of paper,
you can also have copies elsewhere too, but that's dangerous.
Well, Jeff,
I really appreciate your insights and educating that grew up here and then we'll
have you back on because you know, I really have,
I am very confident that what you're, what you're on is the future.
And to me,
what crypto is like right now is like what AOL was back in the
nineties. And they just kept improving. It kept improving.
It kept improving it. So, you know, you guys are on to it,
but it's called developmental is not proven to us at this point.
So how do people stay in touch with you to find out what your services are?
Because it sounds like a very valuable service given how, you know,
how crazy it is. I mean, if everybody can start their own crypto, you know,
you're, you're a valuable resource for them.
So how do people stay in touch with you?
So if you want to sign up for our newsletter, it's at rocketfuelcrypto.com.
How much has that,
that is about $47 a month. There is a free trial though.
You can always see if it's good for you or not.
You get access to weekly videos and then monthly newsletter
outstanding. Yeah. I, I really give you, I've met to me. It says fascinating.
Cause we know we're generations apart, but one day I decided,
why am I,
wouldn't it be better just to buy a goldmine and sell the shares to the gold
line. And then I quickly realized he was better. I just buy the gold.
But anyway, you know, Jeff,
thank you very much and thanks for being part of our program.
All right, man. Thanks for having me talk to you later. Take care. Bye.
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