- All of the things you've been through are just experiences
that have sharpened your blade,
and now you can cut a [bleep] penny,
you know what I'm saying?
Flying through the air.
Now, it's like you're ready for war and ready for anything.
- Right.
[hip hop music plays]
- [Big Sean] I'm trying to think,
you remember the first time we got up?
- I was there when you was doing your first single, bro.
[Big Sean laughing]
I remember Kanye listening to it and playing it,
and him talking about Chris Brown getting on it.
Well, he wasn't on it at first.
- Yeah, he wasn't on it at first.
- Exactly, yeah.
Yeah, that was before Chris even hopped on it
- Yeah. That's crazy, dog.
That hotel, The Mercer,
that's like an anointed spot right there.
Like them rooms,
I remember the first time I actually did summer jam
with Chris brown after my last came out and blew up.
After I got off the stage,
I went back to The Mercer
and HOV and 'Ye were in there,
and they were still working on Watch The Throne.
HOV was like, yeah, we caught you just in time,
we saw you performing.
I just remember that moment being surreal.
And I remember when my album dropped, Finally Famous,
Kanye was like, man,
we gotta make Watch The Throne better, man.
Big Sean album is well-rounded.
I remember being just honored
that he even would consider that at that time like that.
So that was a crazy, crazy moment for me.
- Crazy, because it was just as big for me,
being out there finally locked in with 'Ye,
doing shit like meeting Jay-Z,
then end up he recording all my beats.
I was just like, this is nuts.
- Yeah, you got that one.
- I'll never forget them times.
- Yeah, you caught that.
You caught that bomb.
I mean, people will say that's kinda like,
one of the most important rap songs of all time.
If you ask people, what's the number one rap song,
a lot of people might say Niggas in Paris,
you know what I'm saying?
That might be a lot of people's answers.
It's cool to just be a part of history in that way.
So, I feel like I was a part of it just being there.
And then we did Clique too,
right after what you did with HOV and 'Ye,
but you did that and Niggas in Paris.
That's incredible, bro.
- Crazy.
I wasn't even thinking
that them records was finna be that big,
to me, them was like some of my more simple beats,
you know what I'm saying?
That just kind of clicked in my mind to like,
okay, well, there's a science to that.
People like the stripped down, minimal ideas like that.
A lot of people that's tapped in and tuned in with HOV,
been like turning up the last few years,
that's really from going through that
and understanding you got to give the people what they want.
When I was working with Kanye,
this is before Metro, Mike WiLL, Mustard.
Everybody popped off from having they tags,
I'm literally having genuine conversations with Kanye,
and he like, man, nah, that's corny.
You don't need to put no tag on your beats.
I'm like, you know, in hindsight,
what if Niggas in Paris had a Hit Boy tag on it or whatever,
and then I have to see Metro, Mustard, Mike WiLL,
as far as a brand and a name surpass me,
just because, - Of they tag.
- Of they tag.
They had songs on radio and people hearing it all day.
So, that just made me go into overdrive and be like,
I got to figure out a way to connect my shit.
So, from like end of 2017, 2018,
is when I started just using the straight Hit Boy tag.
Then you gave me the Bezerk tag.
And then I thought like, man, I need to go back
and get that Nip tag from back in the day
from Alert, and use that.
And that's kinda like, that's my three main tags,
the Bezerk tag, Hit Boy, and the Nipsey tag, man.
- Yeah.
- Yeah, fo sho.
[upbeat rap melody plays]
- [Hit Boy] I can't remember the first song we really did.
I think we probably had ideas before we did anything solid.
- [Big Sean] I remember one of the first ones was,
cause I was working on a Detroit mix tape
at the same time as Cruel Summer,
and right after Watch The Throne and all of that,
and Finally Famous.
So, definitely Once Bitten, Twice Shy on a Detroit Mixtape
was one of the first ones,
and that was just like off the fly,
and we were literally right next to Buckingham Palace.
So, the Royal Family, there was complaints
that they were getting from the Royal Family
about the music being too loud,
type of smoke that they were smelling, you know what I mean?
- A different vibe for them.
- Yeah, we trapped out the whole floor,
like two floors that we was on.
And we did that one that I had on the Detroit Mixtape,
and then we also, I think we did Clique.
- Yeah, we was working on Clique,
and we was working on a bunch of stuff
for the Cruel Summer project. - Stuff that never came out.
- Yeah, mhm.
- I just remember it was cool to see Kanye,
to see you, to see John Legend push it.
Everyone was just out there.
- It was like a continuation of The Mercer vibe.
Like just bringing out whole private,
but just still, community energy, to the table.
It's like, man.
Real geniuses in there, producers,
artists, writers, just real, legit killers at what they do.
- A hundred percent. And then I remember Clique.
What's crazy about that, is everyone had a verse on there.
So it was like cliqued out for real.
It was like, I don't know if you remember,
but it was like seven verses on there,
I thought I was going to get cut too,
because when I heard HOV hopped on it,
so I thought it was just going to be
like a Watch The Throne song,
or they new single or something.
But then, Kanye was like, nah,
HOV said to keep you on there.
So, they said like, okay,
ended up being all three of us.
- Shout out HOV man, for real.
- Or shout out 'Ye.
Whoever had the final say in that call,
I don't know who it was,
but it definitely help put me on, crazy.
Cause I remember I dropped Clique
and then dropped the Detroit Mixtape the same week.
- And you was just fittin' to tour.
- And Mercy was out,
and Don't Like, and all of that.
It was just on. And Burn With Me.
And me and Meek was going crazy at the time, too.
- Too many joints.
- It just all lined up.
The crazy thing about Clique
is that it was on another beat at first.
- Yeah, it was on a Dom Kennedy beat.
- [Big Sean] Yeah.
- Somehow it ended up in a pack that I gave Kanye,
and then before I ended up telling him,
Dom had already dropped the video and everything
to that one, crazy.
- It happens, it happens.
I remember on Detroit Mixtape,
- Right, I was supposed to have two on the Detroit Mixtape.
- Yeah, we had a crazy one.
It was me, you and J-Cole for 24k of Gold.
But then Justin Bieber and Drake ended up using it.
- And hopping on the instrumental.
- And I understood, because my shit was just a mix tape.
Theirs was like his album.
So the mix tapes back then, you got to understand,
it's like nobody was getting paid for it.
- That was a tough call for me too,
to have to hit you and say that,
you know what I'm saying?
I was like, bro, I'm trying to keep this wave going.
It's Bieber and Drake.
- I wasn't mad, I was like, yeah, I feel you.
I was using on some mix tape shit like I said,
and he was using it on his album.
So obviously that means a bag is involved,
and there wasn't no bag involved.
So that's how I was looking at it, too.
- That was A-1, 'cause most people would've been like,
nah, I ain't working with bro no more.
- No, no, no.
Key Wane ended up remaking a beat,
and it ended up fitting fine, like perfectly.
So it all worked out.
- For sure.
- [Big Sean] Yeah.
- Shout out Key Wane. - [Big Sean] Yeah, for sure.
[upbeat rap beat plays]
Hey, so, your uncle was in Troop.
- Yeah.
- I met your uncle, too.
- Yeah, he's my dog.
- Yeah, he's like a real character.
I know he was an R&B star,
but he was a rockstar too, you know?
- For sure.
Just the stories they used to tell, let alone seeing it.
I would go to sessions and my uncle used to have parties.
That's why I had my run at throwing my parties.
- Yeah. You used to have the crazy parties.
I wasn't used to LA parties like that.
When I first got out here, I was on the grind.
But going to your crib,
that was like my first time experiencing,
shit was crazy, bro.
- You had like NBA stars, hood motherfuckers, pop singers,
just a whole class, rappers. - Rappers.
- Everybody. You got Gang, Big Sean, Chris Brown.
- [Big Sean] Yeah. For real.
- We were going crazy.
- Frank ocean, Kid Cudi.
- Frank Ocean, yeah. Fo sho, fo sho.
- Crazy parties, bro.
- But so anyway, he used to have parties like that?
- Yeah, he used to have parties,
so that's where I seen that from.
- How old were you then?
- I was like four or five years old, literally bro.
But he was living that life, literally rockstar.
So he had me low key in the mix.
- Like little kid? - Yeah.
- Smackin' ass?
- You know, little fun shit, bro.
[Big Sean laughs]
- It's crazy, seeing him shoot videos in the hood
at Jackie Robinson Park,
all that was just motivating, bro.
This is like a reality.
[upbeat hip hop beat plays]
- I feel like anybody great at what they do
knows how to have fun with it.
I feel like maybe when I think about Michael,
like anyone who just is like great at what they do.
I feel like that's the reason why everybody doesn't make it.
Everyone can make it,
is because some people may look at,
I need to do this for the money.
I need to do this for the hustle of it,
I need to do it for this.
But, imagine if you were successful at something
that wasn't fun to you,
but you just worked so hard,
you get to the end of your life.
You going to be like,
that was fuckin' a waste of my time, my whole life,
it's it's when you have fun with it
that allows you to be at the forefront
of development of the newest creativity created.
You know what I mean?
Not to say it's fun all the time.
- Right.
- But there have been times where we in the studio,
that shit fun.
- Nah, niggas be laughing like we had a comedy show.
- Yeah, for real.
- Different little whatever. For real.
- Yeah.
But when you're enjoying something,
you obviously can do it for more hours,
and therefore go further.
You know what I'm saying?
And therefore, explore new heights of it.
And that is the difference I feel like
in a lot of people who want to do it,
but why do you want to do it?
Do you want to do it because it's your calling,
'cause you feel joy when you do it,
'cause it's fun to you?
Because you rather do that than to go out and drink
or fuck bitches, or whatever it is,
that you get the call about,
hey man, we got the this, we got these girls, we got this,
or flipping packs,
hey man, we got the whatever it is.
It's like so many things in my life where I've denied it.
I've been like, nah, I'm straight, I'm straight.
And just be locked in on that,
but not just because I felt
like that was the right choice morally,
because I felt like that was where my heart was.
- That's generally what I wanted to do, yeah.
- That's what I wanted to do, yeah.
- Nah, I feel the same, bro.
When people see me out now they be laughing,
like, damn, you out the studio?
Like they know they don't ever really see me outta here,
but you also see the productivity.
- You can't fake that. - What's going on. Yeah.
- Yeah, you can't fake it, you can't fake them hours,
can't fake that creativity, that process,
it just is what it is.
And that's where my mind is right now, bro,
to just stay in the studio.
If I ain't with my son C3,
I'm not really doing much other than trying to elevate this.
- Constantly thinking about it,
that's what separates a lot of people from others.
[upbeat tempo plays]
I remember 2018, I can't remember how we linked back up.
- Was at the Rose Bowl at the Beyonce and Jay Z show
at the On the Run Tour 2.
- That's right.
- It's crazy, 'cause I'm coming down and I'm in the back,
I see Nip, and then I see Sean,
I see Khaled there, y'all was all walking together.
I stopped, chopped it with everybody,
told Nip I got some joints for him,
told you I got some shit for you,
and y'all both tapped in with me immediately,
all around the same time.
- I saw a Nip a few times after that,
but that was one of the last times
where we was all really hanging, performing together.
When Khaled brought us out,
it was like me and him came out right back to back,
so we was just backstage chopping it
and talking about so much, man.
But, that is literally the time that it linked up,
and I remember he was coming here,
and then all of a sudden,
Nas started coming here,
and then we was locked in.
- Right. Tee Grizzley.
- [Big Sean] Tee Grizzley.
- Gang of people just came through
and we ended up somehow catching this synergy
to where people pull up, they do a song with me,
Sean ended up pulling up and it just be fittin'.
- Yeah, it's something electric about that room.
I saw a Nas saying that,
I saw, I feel like Nip, too.
And I feel like a lot of people are like,
there's something electric about that room you in.
- That's what's crazy, man.
And it's a few other places that have a similar energy
where you go and you just inspired
that I've been in my life.
But that is like one of the clear inspiration.
It's like a channel that's just wide open.
- That's what's crazy,
'cause it feel like when I was making music,
and I like 17 in my room,
cause I would have basically the same operation.
Everybody would just find a way to get to my studio.
Niggas would drive out from Pasadena,
drive out from different places to record,
finding out about me.
I had my Myspace cracking.
I always used to just have people in it.
So it feel like now, it's just like, damn.
It made me also realize I've been doing this,
I've been getting bread to really produce for people
and not just make beats,
and really just have that community energy.
[upbeat music plays]
- I've been in with a lot of producers,
and a lot of producers don't be making the beats
on the spot like you.
And be making the beats fully.
And I mean, obviously there are some times
where you have live musicians in there,
but you be in there,
it's times where it's just been me and you,
and we locked in.
And you will make the beat, produce it, and record me,
and be like, nah, you should say like that,
or like, say like that,
or what about this?
You'll give some creative input, too.
And it just is good.
I feel like that's one of the things Nas benefited from too.
'Cause I feel like you guys were able to connect
on that same level.
Like how me and you connect,
that's really producing,
when you produce artists,
it's not just making a beat for him.
It's like you really mastered the art of producing.
And it's only a couple other people
I've ever experienced that with.
No I.D. being one of them,
Kanye being one.
Metro, too. Metro Boomin is like another producer who,
- Hands-on.
- Hands-on with it.
- What you said about me doing a beat
and having to load it up and record, whatever,
that's like I'm an all purpose type of person.
Whatever it's going to take to get the job done.
I ain't trying to play in.
I remember, this probably like 2014,
for me, like mentally,
I feel like I was going through a rough patch
from like that time till probably like 2017,
right before I moved over to the studio.
- Like what you mean? Like a rough patch over what?
- Just like disconnected
from having a good music label behind me,
trying to figure out management situations,
really managing myself for years
from that whole period, pretty much.
I did a random session.
It was like a little cash play I was running.
It was this guy who owned the studio I was working at.
- Now, a cash play meaning like somebody like,
I'm gonna bring you the shit cash.
- Exactly. Versus a label, it was an independent artist.
- Yeah, of course.
- He just had whatever bag he had.
- Run that brown paper, for real. Gotta run that up.
- So, the dude that owned the studio,
don't remember his name, older dude,
we was just chopping it, and he was like,
if you really want to stay in this game as a producer,
you got to learn how to produce vocals.
You gotta learn how to get a good recording out of artists.
That's really the thing that's going to separate you,
and this was, like I said, 2014, 2015,
and I just never stopped thinking about that.
That's what made me like,
I'm about to give fully back on my recording on pro tools,
started off with just recording myself.
I was in here,
but when I first got in the studio,
wasn't nobody pulling up.
I had to get that,
literally just get that energy going from nothing.
And as soon as artists started pulling up,
I just felt like I had the momentum.
- Yeah.
- So I feel like that's just all a part of the magic.
- It is.
Yeah, there don't be no engineer around sometimes,
and you'd be hyping up.
- Word.
- You're doing all that multitasking.
And rolling a Fanta at the same damn time.
- That's funny.
- Rolling a Fanta, doing a beat, engineering.
So when you say you was going through a rough time, 2014,
so how were you able to come back from that?
How were you able to shake that off?
Or have you shaken it off all the way,
or like how would you?
- Yeah, I guess mentally,
sometimes I'll still have things that I think about,
but I completely did a 180 from where I was.
It was just a time
where I caught the Niggas in Paris record, huge record,
Jimmy Iovine gave me a huge bag,
label deal, artist deal, all this shit.
Then I went and signed all my homies.
I'm trying to remain relevant as a producer.
I'm trying to get better as an artist, do my own projects.
It was just too much to handle at that time.
And I was like 25, 24 or whatever.
- Right.
- I took a lot home,
and basically going from having all this stuff,
like multiple assistants, multiple employees,
management, the biggest whatever,
to having nothing no more,
I was thuggin' dolo again,
like literally, trying to hit people up,
not getting no response,
and at a point, this is probably like 2017,
right before I moved to the studio,
I was questioning whether I should
even keep doing music, bro.
Mind you, Sicko Mode had already been recorded.
The intro part I did with the homie Rogét.
- Yeah.
- Different joints.
I had already gave a carousel joint to Travis,
and I had a bunch of other stuff going,
but I just felt like, I just don't know
if it's going to go to that level
that I really wanted to go back to,
as far as when I was working with Jimmy,
I had Niggas in Paris and Clique,
and all these other joints out.
It was a time,
and I feel like that was all for me to elevate
and get to this point, you know what I'm saying?
- Absolutely.
All of the things you've been through are just experiences
that have sharpened your blade,
and now you could cut a fuckin' penny.
You know what I'm saying?
Flying through the air,
and now it's like you ready for war and ready for anything.
I personally feel like I am the best that I've ever been.
I can't wait to display that
and play that part for you.
- That's that part, I feel the same way.
- Yeah.
- That's the energy I'm on.
I'm like, man, if I already did all this
and my mind wasn't as sharp as it is now,
my skills wasn't as honed in as they is now,
like man, what I'm about to do now?
Now it's like, stay in the studio,
get it done, take it to that level you want to see it at.
- I feel like what we're about to do
is the result of us trusting each other,
us a hundred percent being on the same page and going.
- Really, that's how we caught these last few songs
the last few days.
Just like, man, we just goin',
we know this shit sound hard, we bout to run with it.
- I was there for a lot of the Nas sessions, as well.
- Yeah.
- That's something I didn't expect for him,
to put his trust in you like that.
I know no one's going to admit this,
but a lot of the concepts and a lot of the things
that Nas was able to address,
you brought out of him.
- Word.
- I'm sure people will assume that,
but I was there firsthand
and I saw you bring those stories out,
the conversations ya'll would be having.
That made me realize how important it is
in studio sessions, to talk.
Even if you just have a session where y'all just talked.
- Yup.
- Even if you just played a beat,
and just talked and that was it.
It's like sometimes that just sets the stage,
sets the floor, for something to be built.
- Yeah.
- You know what I mean? And I saw a lot of that.
So I learned a lot just being in the studio with ya'll,
and seeing that process of how it happened
or just having fun.
Songs just come from having fun, too.
Like Brunch on Sundays.
- We literally just came from brunch,
just came to studio
and made a song called Brunch on Sundays.
And he described the day.
And that's like a joint that people really been hittin' me
on IG, hittin' me on Twitter.
Like, I love that joint. - Yeah.
- So, we might talk for two hours before a session
or after a session,
and we wanna talk about various things,
and Sean is knowledgeable in a bunch of different things,
and I'm knowledgeable on what I'm knowledgeable on.
- [Big Sean] Of course.
- We always just combining information
and sharing information more importantly,
that's a big thing.
I feel like people don't talk,
they don't lock in.
And I feel like you just unlock different things
in your mind when you get that conversation out.
- Yeah. A hundred percent.
From wellness to working out,
- Family.
We talk about a lot of personal things.
There've been times where I talked on the phone
and you were livid, you were hot.
You were like going through it,
and vice versa,
at times where I felt things crumbling down
and really were able to be a voice of reasoning,
and a voice of logic,
and coming from another black man,
I feel like that's important.
I feel like that's something a lot of black men,
they don't do,
they might think that weird
to be talking like that, you know what I mean?
That's one of the things I appreciate
about my relationship working with you too,
is that it transcended working.
- Yeah. Fo sho.
We can vibe on whatever level,
that shit is just real synergy.
- Yeah.
Being vulnerable and music is like,
it's the sacrifice you make as an artist,
it's like you sacrifice your privacy.
If I got to talk about relationship stuff or family stuff,
or just going through real life's things,
losing a baby, or whatever the thing is
that people go through.
- Health stuff. Lucky me.
- Yeah, lucky me, health stuff. My heart.
I had a real heart condition
that my family told me never to talk about that.
My mom was like, don't talk about that.
People gonna you got a weak heart,
all love to my mom,
I'm not trying to put her on blast,
but she was like, people will judge,
people are too judgmental out here.
Tell 'em you had a heart disease,
they're gonna not wanna,
I'm like, nah, you tripping.
But so it made me not say nothing about it.
And then I'm like,
fuck it, people need to hear this.
And what was crazy is, I get calls
from, I remember, Don Cannon call me like,
bro, I got the same shit going on in my heart.
- Crazy.
- It's not beating right.
And I told him,
he was like, bro, and I took the magnesium,
and that shit beating perfect now.
Opening up, man, and sharing information.
Really, you just gotta be a true self, dog.
- Yeah.
- If anyone was perfect, we wouldn't even be on this earth.
We would be on the next level.
- Right.
- So we here.
- And everybody be on Elon Musk, creating robots.
[Big Sean laughs]
If everybody is doing that, it'd be ugly out here.
- Right?
Yeah. For real.
- Going back to the Nas relationship,
like we got a similar relationship to like,
I chop it with him,
and just talk about life,
and he's our senior, so he can hand me down game,
and hand me down just certain gems,
you know what I'm saying?
And I feel like a certain energies that I get from you,
I could bring into his world and vice versa.
So it's like, I feel like it's all meshing
to be this one real thing.
- But that goes back to the point
of the energy of Nipsey is like,
I think he's exploded so much more
because his mindset is so contagious,
of The Marathon Continues,
and us being on his Marathon,
and holistic medicine.
I know personally me and him had too many conversations
about just, like, sea moss.
About different products we've taken,
supplements, us breaking down stuff to each other,
in that aspect, and the aspect of black business.
The aspect of,
- Ownership.
- [Big Sean] Ownership.
The aspect of even just him selling his CDs.
I remember when he sold his mix tape,
he had for, what tape was that?
- One for a hundred, then another one before that.
- One for a hundred,
then one out for a thousand.
Just that mentality of real hustle.
You had no choice but to honor and respect
every aspect of that, right?
So we carry that on.
- That authenticity.
- That authenticity, he just was real with it, right?
So, I really do be in that studio,
like, nah, Nip wouldn't,
this ain't some shit Nip would rock with.
I really think that sometimes, you know.
- Nah, honestly bro, not even on no extra'd out weird shit,
but I feel like his energy is definitely still around,
just him coming to the stool,
and just being like, bro,
I don't know what it is about this room.
I really just love being in here, man.
And he felt that same thing you feel,
or Nas, or whoever comes through,
it's like something about it.
And man, it's just crazy
to just see how everyday we get to take advantage
of that energy, man.
- Anybody who ever had a chance to encounter him,
experience his work ethic, his mindset,
his vulnerability, his vision.
He was working on Victory Lap for years,
like years and years and years and years and years.
And people were looking at him crazy, bro.
Let's not get the fact that a lot of people around him
were looking at him crazy.
Like, bro, you've been working on this for seven years,
or however long he was working on it, right?
But when you listen back to it, it's a pure classic.
That always gives me the confidence to stand my ground
for what I believe in.
If there's people around me like,
no, you need to do this, you need to do that,
you needed to have the club song.
You need to do this, man, you tripping.
you need to drop the album.
It's like, I got to stick to my ground and stick to my guns.
And that's something that I learned
and really think about with it, man,
like he really did that his whole career.
- Yeah. Real life.
- Yeah. And he a legend for it.
Just an opinion of mine, not a factual thing,
but I really feel like you probably would have done
a whole Nipsey Hussle album.
- That's the crazy thing, is we spoke about that,
the same way me and you talk or me and Nas talk.
He was hitting me at eight, nine in the morning,
just sending me sample ideas,
like, chop this up.
I tell him, I'm gonna have it chopped up by the afternoon,
pull up, let's get it done, whatever.
- Honestly, I'm not going to lie,
even just the last few days of us recording,
I feel like we need to do more.
- Some of the best sessions, yeah.
- Ever. I feel like we hit a new level.
- Yeah, yeah.
- It's like, oh, shit.
- Right. Now it's like, okay, let's stick to this.
Let's keep this shit going,
because the energy is so high.
- Yeah. I don't know what happened either.
It was like it going really good,
we had like a lot of songs.
- Catching momentum.
- Something happened,
we walked through a portal a few days ago.
So it's ironic.
- I still feel like I'm literally in it, right now.
- Yeah I know, me too,
even just the song we did last night,
but it's ironic that we're doing this interview now,
just a few days into,
- The new energy.
- The new energy to me,
is like the best creative experiences that I've been in,
either in my life, or in a long time.
- Nah, same here.
I just feel like it's, not to say easy,
but we did done so many ideas now,
it's just coming to us at a different pace.
And it's feeling right, though. It's feeling elevated.
I've been thinking about it every day.
I play the songs, bro.
Like I wake up, I'm on the phone playing it off the phone.
I hop in the whip, go to my workout,
I'm playing the joints.
I'm on my way back.
It's just like, man, I'm really tapped in
to trying to just elevate everything
to the highest possible level.
- Yeah, and I'm right there with you.
So it's like we both trying to elevate it.
- Bro, to me, I'm like,
you done wrote some of your best raps
in the last couple of days.
That's scary, you know what I'm saying?
Bro got too many verses, too many bars.
He one of them dudes
that just come modern with the flow every time
and catch you off guard.
You're not doing nothing that's predictable.
And that's what I super respect about what you do.
- Man, I appreciate that. And you too.
As a producer, I literally feel the exact same way you say.
It just like unpredictable.
You get in a pocket
that could sound like it's right in pocket,
but it's something new.
It's something that is textured,
it's like going to like the highest level of cloth.
You know what I'm saying?
It's like, you're into street wear,
and then you get the highest couture Louis Vuitton.
It just feels like you master both of them, though.
It feels like you know how to tap into so many different,
like what HOV said,
HOV said you like a Swiss Army Knife.
Like you got so many different, you know what I mean?
- Crazy.
- [Big Sean] Crazy.
Good talk, bro.
- Yes sir, you already know.
- I'm dabbin' you up like we're not fittin to go
into the next room.
But yeah. I mean, I'm excited.
We got a lot of work to do.
We've got a lot of music to give to people.
We've got a important job.
- It's on my mind 24/7, bro,
I'm locked in with you, fo sho.
- Yeah, let's go.