to give you a lovely of context what
we're doing is were showing
slaughterhouse and farm footage all
taken in the UK to skip you up like a
deeper understanding of what we support
when we buy animal products have you
seen yeah it's terrible
it is horrible do you think there's a
humane or nice way to take the life of
an animal that doesn't want to die
probably not no do you think we have to
eat animals to live or can we survive
without them you cannot yeah and what
about vegans can vegans can we survive
by eating milk and cheese as well and
eggs do you think bearing to that mind
the fact that we can live healthy
without eating those things how do we
justify allowing this to happen to
animals if it doesn't have to this is a
free-range egg farm
horrible yeah please do you tend to try
and buy ethical where I can and what do
you mean by ethical though okay it's
like more the kinder like smaller small
Holdings small Holdings yeah and they do
a more of a humane sorter rather than
all these ethics what does a humane
slaughter look like it's basically
almost like it's busily chopping around
and then suddenly dead two seconds gone
do you think that's the reality though
Wow
the way I see it is say an animal is a
really beautiful life and then so we
take them to a slaughterhouse where
they're killed and there's no pain
there's no fear there's no suffering
because they have a preference to live
does that not stormy in it's cruel
you're always on the show I reckon do
you think it's changing I eat me yeah I
don't think I would change
no it's just 60 years of eating me I'm
not going to change now why not because
it's just the way of life I mean it's
like luckily my mom is not alive here
today she was put up on a farm
yeah yeah what is the the humane way so
this is the nicest way of killing animal
this is to the bolt-gun doesn't kill
them it stuns that I'm supposed to make
them unconscious but this one as you can
see it doesn't work on this particular
cow
we can all agree that this is really bad
but is there a humane way to kill an
animal that doesn't want to die do you
think a new main way a humane way yeah
what would that look like do you think
do you think even if we took away all
the pain all the suffering do you think
because the animal has a preference to
live is still cruel still cruel right
yeah do you think we have to eat animals
or animal products to live or can we
survive about them right so what happens
to the car well the car go off to
Sumpter so that's up there we go within
48 hours it is a bit cruel absolutely
maybe someone takes your baby away and
caocao maternal animals so like like
humans there's a very strong matriarchal
bond they do grief yeah this been shown
that they grieve and they call out this
footage them chasing after their cars
yeah how do we then morally justify you
forget you don't think about because you
see and it's all wrapped up in plastic
and you don't see this you don't think
about it and you know I think that's
strange you should love you big brother
exactly I do you know I think it's weird
that if we saw the animal we wouldn't
want to eat them and as a species we
have to detach as far as possible from
the reality of what we're eating do you
think that you could like kill an animal
yourself like me
no no only of older vector and if your
about you have exactly and I agree with
you on that and it was a domestic the
nice thing to do what about the animals
that we eat that aren't in pain and
don't want today I couldn't I could do
you think it's it but then you can put
the farmers you're gonna put the
abbatoirs out yeah it's always bitten
thing is this is a victim involved like
an animal is suffering a farmer can
always find a different job an animal
can't find another life what do you
think is the difference between eating a
pig and eating a dog or is it the same
why do you say is different them yeah
it's a cold sure thing when you eat
animals do you ever think about the
animal that you're eating yeah what's
for me as well it was for all of us you
know we're all vegans but we didn't
staff is vegans I was eating meat for 20
years in my life you know you know I was
even animal products with 20 years of my
life I loved it don't get me wrong I
love to taste them but I start to see
footage like this and I start to to
question and I think this just isn't
right and as a person I just couldn't
support this anymore knowing that these
animals were suffering when they didn't
have to and I all the foods that used to
eat eight burgers and stir fries have
pasta and mac and cheese and stuff it's
just now a year from vegan foods like
plants rather than from animals do you
think veganism something you'd ever
consider trying
yeah what we have to remember is the
only reason these things happen to
animals is because consumers well
they're a commodity are they live living
animal in there well it's like it's a
sacrifice there we go what their
commodities aren't they objects
there we go it's money it's almost this
is a until these are farmers
inconvenience that they're alive in the
first place to be so much more
convenient if they were just sacks of
potatoes exactly so this is the thing
that they completely
depersonalized these animals right so
they don't see them as living beings
anymore they're objects to make money
from nowhere or vegan toys absolutely it
is yeah they're desensitize that's right
the thing about eggs let me give you a
little brief thing about it okay so the
male chicks in the egg industry are not
suitable to be killed for meats which
means that they won't be solved for
meats but male chicks obviously don't
produce eggs because they're male which
means that every year in the UK but also
abroad across the halkan across the
whole world
what happens is we slaughter male chicks
as soon as they're born by grinding them
alive in May serratus or by gassing them
alive so in this country we call 40
million day-old male chicks by May
serrated them and that happens on
free-range farms as well as a marketing
ploy but I appreciate you've got run off
so there's a couple of things here so
you do disagree animals being killed but
what's the difference between kkona
badger and killing a pig or a cow no but
if we don't make it okay but they all
feel right and they all want to live our
supposes
yeah I can see your boy yeah we're all
compassionate people we all love animals
do you think you can love animals if you
eat them I mean there's a species we do
some horrible things to our own species
as well but obviously we do horrible
things to non-human animals now you and
I we can't do much about governments and
politicians come wait but what we can do
is exchange what we buy on what we
support as individuals and this only
happens to animals because we buy those
products bearing in mind that you we
both agree that we don't have to eat
animals or animal products like milk and
eggs to live how do we morally justify
this continuing if it doesn't have to do
you eat animals yourself or do that so
how are you in future from from now on
morally justify to yourself paying for
an animal to die when they don't have to
another thing as we're living now in a
society where it's so easy to just buy
something different you're going to
Tesco's or a store Sainsbury's or ever
and you just buy some soy milk or some
rice milk rice or almond milk or
whatever milk it is and you're done you
mean these animals have to suffer them
and you can get plenty of substitutes
you can even get vegan Ben and Jerry's
ice cream now right so this is becoming
so much easier for us to not support
this kind of cruelty you know we love
dogs and cats they think if anyone was
to hurt dog if we saw someone right now
abusing a dog we don't run it and stop
them and if and the fact if we saw some
abusing a pig right now we'd also ready
but do you not think the fact that the
animal doesn't want to die and they want
to live out their life because we keep
them in farms and we kill them that is a
form of abuse no it's been great for me
they probably don't know they're going
bred to be for me but they know that
their life isn't one that they probably
want to live because they think and
feeling that they're conscious and alive
obviously you know dogs and cats as to
fire and pigs and cows and chickens and
turkeys are as well
see where you're coming from yeah yeah I
think it'd be a it's not gonna happen
overnight but they're right there is
change happening quite sure but there is
a change you don't give yourself enough
credit just a little reading there's
some information on here as well if
you've got YouTube button stuff check
out some of these things and just don't
get research and see how you feel about
okay oh there are we all love animals
and we don't want to see them suffer but
fortunately what we don't realize is
when we buy you know their flesh and
their products they've had to suffer for
that and I think the way hopefully they
it was quick and there's no ke you know
do you think that's realistic though
even the most humane way that we kill
pigs is in a gas chamber in this country
so even the most humane ways of cooler's
animals still causes them pain and
suffering that's the problem I know this
eating yes the solution out the solution
exact route or for exactly right how
about me today all right bless you bye I
used to carry pretty much every week I
always get like a zinger box meal I
loved it now I see KFC and I think of
these birds and I think of the cruelty
and it doesn't seem like food to me it
makes me feel uneasy it's just a process
you're more than welcome I gave you
these cards so I'm just gonna give you a
couple of bit of information the
documentary that we've been screen is
called Land of Hope and Glory it's free
to watch is 48 minutes long is really
insightful there's also some really
great documentaries on Netflix plus
spruce he talks about the environment
and how eating animals destroy our
environment yes good man
well have you seen what the health it's
made by the same guys so watch what the
hell and then this is a really great
website up here the vegan 22 you're calm
it's basically it's a website you sign
up to try veganism from 22 days they say
it takes 21 days to kick a habit see you
an extra day there for good look
you