And joining us now
with more on
the Trump documents case is conservative
lawyer George Conway.
He's also contributing columnist
at The Washington Post.
George, great to see you.
I don't know if you heard some of what
former Congressman
will heard Republican
Congressman Walker was just saying
a few moments ago.
You know, he's
a former CIA officer, George,
and he was saying that lives
could have been
put in danger,
may have been put in danger
by the former president
by retaining these documents
or refusing to return them.
What did you think about that?
Well, I mean, I'm not
certainly not going to dispute the
the opinion of a former CIA officer.
And I think it's pretty clear
from the allegations in the indictment
and from the news reports
that this material is very,
very sensitive, includes
methods and sources, information,
which means that, you know, if
if the material is released,
it could compromise the sources
and possibly get them killed.
So it's a very, very serious thing.
And if you read the indictment,
it's just very clear
that Donald Trump did not care one whit
about whether or not
he was
compromising any of that information
and making it
potentially available
to people who could walk in the bathroom
and bust the door
down as as you were pointing out.
And if the door's already locked
from the inside,
so somebody had to be in there.
And if no one was in there,
somebody could walk
right into the bathroom.
And we'd have that problem
that you were talking about.
Yeah.
I mean, anybody who has teenagers
and happy Father's Day
to use anybody who has teenagers now,
you can get into a locked bathroom door.
I'm just going to not get too light
hearted with this.
But George slip we won't get to yeah.
We won't get to yeah.
But George,
what do you think about the challenges
facing the special counsel
in all of this?
Of course, the judge,
Alan Cannon, is a Trump appointee.
She's been under scrutiny for her past
rulings
that have favored the former president.
But there is also
just the prospect that this
this case could just take a long time.
And you may not get any kind of a verdict
before probably not before the primaries.
And caucuses,
but maybe not even before the election
of 20, 24.
Is it
that big of a challenge, do you think?
Well, I mean, I think the challenge
that will be the challenge.
The challenge is getting
this case to trial.
I think it will ultimately get
to trial at some point,
probably next year.
And that's where also
the judge has a great deal of impact.
Judges discretion
in timing,
the timing, deciding motions and
and granting continuances
is something that could delay the case.
But I do think
and I hope that Judge Cannon is cognizant
of how important
this case is,
not just to the defendant,
but to the United States of America,
to the government and to its people,
and the importance
of getting it resolved on a timely
and timely basis.
And I think that if she acts consistently
with the way
a very efficient federal judge,
a very smart federal judge
would in any other district,
I think there's a good chance
she could get this
case tried next year,
and that would be to everyone's benefit.
And let me ask you,
Trump has been railing against
all of his political foes on true social.
You're no stranger to that sort of thing.
And that includes
the special counsel, Jack Smith, who
he called deranged
What do you think about
these attacks on the special counsel
and the potential to impact this case?
And I guess also potentially,
I don't know,
possibly becoming a security problem
for the special counsel and his team
Well, it's clear that
Jack Smith isn't the deranged person.
I don't think these attacks on Jack
Smith are going to deter him.
I do think that he is going to be
the same Jack Smith,
no matter what
Donald Trump says about him
and that he's he's going to do everything
he can to take this case to trial
and be professional about it.
And I just don't think
I don't think he's
going to be intimidated by it.
I think the security issues there
The Justice Department has already
is already confronting them.
There was a security team,
as I understand it, from the reporting
of four people on the ground in Miami
last week.
There was a
heavy security for the
for the federal prosecutors.
And there will continue
to be such security.
And I don't think
that is going to impact the.
I think they're just going to
plow through.
And a Trump adviser tells CNN
that Trump's codefendant and body man
will not or will continue
to travel and work
with the former president
What do you think?
I mean,
do you think that
there is a chance that not all will flip
on Trump?
Is it possible
that Trump will go after and try to blame
all of this or not?
I mean,
knowing Trump's track record,
what are your thoughts on all of that?
Yeah, my thought about
now the flipping is
I think it's
possible,
but I don't think
it's going to benefit now
that much because now two doesn't
have that much to offer the government
because the government
has such strong evidence already.
They don't really
they have basically all the information
they need
about what Nauru did on Trump's behalf.
Now, he could plead,
but I don't think it's going to.
I don't think it's going to.
I think he's going to
not get an easy sentence
because of the fact that he is out there
and did not plead earlier.
And as for Trump, Trump I think would
I don't think he's going to be able to
change the outcome.
Bye bye.
Bye bye. Is conduct tours now to
and you know,
it's been
a few days now
since since the indictment came down
and you've been a lifelong
Republican, George.
Do you think that
the Republican Party has really
come to grips with the magnitude
and the importance of this documents case
and I guess I was also wondering
what your thoughts
were on
on this deflection
that we've been hearing in recent days.
Well, there are two types.
There are two forms of justice
in Washington one for Democrats,
one for a Republican.
What is your response to all of that
when you hear that?
What what comes to mind?
George, what are your thoughts on that?
I mean, I think it's complete nonsense
that that that the Republicans
are pretending that this is somehow
some unjust prosecution.
They clearly
I mean,
they clearly are coming to grips
with the seriousness
of of these allegations
as as,
you know,
reflected by the fact
that they were out criticizing
the special counsel
and the indictment
before they had even seen it.
And you know the truth.
The fact of the matter is,
if this had if these charges
had been leveled against a Democrat
with the same evidence,
the same substantial evidence,
they would be saying
they would be calling for that
Democrats to be put in jail.
And it's completely hypocritical.
And it's really just a disgrace because
this is
the Republicans
have always professed
to be the party of law and order.
And here they're basically saying no.
They're basically saying
that we don't want to enforce the law.
We don't want to enforce the law
against one of ours.
And that's just that's just
you know,
that's just we're just
bouncing our way
to becoming a third world country
because of that
in Georgia at the end of the day.
Do you think Donald Trump goes to jail
as a result of this case?
And does that happen before the
20, 24 election?
I think there is a
substantial possibility
that he goes to jail.
I think that he is going to be found
guilty of multiple felonies
in this and other cases.
And I think the only you know,
I think that given the fact
that he shows no remorse and no
willingness to bear any responsibility
for his misconduct,
I think that a substantial sentence
and sentence of incarceration
is in order.
Now, the question will be
what kind of security
can be provided
for a former president in a year?
US. Bureau of Prisons facility.
I don't I don't really know what the what
how they're going to handle that.
But I think there's there's
every reason to believe
that they're going
to want to work
something out where he is
not able to walk the streets.
He can at a minimum
they could use
some kind of home detention
at one of his or one of his residences.