Welcome back everyone it's charlie Shang Chi the legend of the 10 rings is out.
I know you have lots of abomination questions this is going to be my video all about what's
going on with the abomination during the Shang Chi movie.
The director and the producers of this said it's just meant to be a teaser for big things
that are happening for him in the future Marvel phase 4.
So we'll break it all down.
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a bunch of really big stuff coming up in obviously careful for spoilers for the Shang Chi movie.
If you have not seen it yet.
Because will be talking about some really spoilers stuff but when Shang Chi and Katy
go to Macau to find his sister mistakingly thinking that she contacted him with the postcard
of the great protector Dragon Jon-Jon explains this whole big operation is very reminiscent
of the operation that Sharon Carter builds is the power broker inside madripoor if that
when they first released the trailer and we saw some of these scenes out of context.
A lot of people mistakenly thought that it was meant to be madripoor we find out that
his sister Charlene ran away from home at the age of 16 it came to Macau to set this
fighting ring operation she's turned into this whole big thing is obviously meant to
foreshadow the turn where she takes over the 10 rings organization in the post credit scene
they pass about the low level fights, including the extremist soldier from iron man three
fighting one of the former liberated black widows from the black widow movie sort of
foreshadowing the Trevor reveal just another connection to Iron Man three.
The last big Marvel movie to invoke the Mandarin even though the way they explain it in this
movie when we were never called himself the Mandarin in they turned the name into an even
bigger joke this movie is also being released right after the black widow movie.
But the black widows that Natasha and yelena belova free with red Guardian and Melina happen
years ago during 2018.
Right before the events of Avengers infinity war.
So you have to remember the time jump this is happening in 2023 so that black widow had
not been snap she would been participating this underground fighting scene for years
same thing for the extremist soldier the events of Iron Man 3 Took place back in 2013 10 years
ago but then they reveal wall and finding the abomination in the main ring.
Like the big fight Mortal Kombat style for the big money that is an awful lot a sandwich
money that Wong just one himself.
Yes it's super cool cameo scene.
But the bigger twist is that as they fight, it actually seems like long is almost coaching
the abomination he seemed kind of pulling his punches so to speak.
Metaphorically, then literally like he pulls the abominations punch through a portal so
that he knocks himself out as they fight he says you want to know how it feels on the
show you how it feels the abomination isn't quite as powerful as the Holt almost as powerful
as a hoax was used on all the trailers he is able to smash one of one's magical shields
like that's how strong he is Wong seems really pissed off like he was expecting him to pull
his punches a little bit that's why he pulls this trick on the abomination causing him
to punch himself and knock himself out.
He calls abomination by his real name Emil Blonsky and even though you can't tell that
much just from watching the movie Tim Roth did come back to do some vocalization for
the character during the movie.
He was also at the movie premiere so that is him making all those noises and those grunts
when they're fighting and they model Tim Roth's face for motion capture for the abomination here
Even though he looks a little bit different.
I've talked about this in previous videos already.
But the reason why the abomination looks different now is they just made him more comic book accurate
If you not a big comic book reader are which is been a long time since you've read those
original incredible whole comic books.
This is exactly what the abomination looks like in the comics, the coloring of his skin
down to the fins on his head.
His pointed teeth within the context of the MCU though is most likely that his gamma mutation
just continue to evolve and change his body over time at a slower rate.
Like the initial dose of gamin serum that he was given during incredible Hulk turn them
into this during that movie.
But that was back in 2008 cut to 13 years later in his body just continue to change
until it looks like this the real reason why they changed in though was because back when
they made the original incredible Hulk movie, they were just playing it safe try not to
make too many weird looking characters.
The director claimed he didn't like the fins now that they've done rocketing route to super
popular Marvel characters on the people are totally down for talking raccoons and talking
trees the super weird stuff often, winds up being the most popular stuff Kevin Feige says
that nowadays they feel safer doing the super weird stuff look alligator Loki was not something
that they would've tried back during Marvel phase 1 and now in present day.
He's one of the biggest fan favorite Loki variants superior Loki, but they take this
one abomination thing even further.
Like he almost seems like he's Brose with the abomination like their mates and they
been hanging out for a while now, then they have this joke about a bunch of dues having
to drag him out of the ring because he so big and heavy after their fight in the locker
room just a moment later Wong asked him how his jaw is like how you doing buddy and opens
a portal to a special high-tech facility where there's a special containment cell with a
bunch of lasers designed to hold it looks very reminiscent of the one that Nick fury
built to contain the Hulk in the first avengers movie.
He tells him that he needs to learn to control his punches.
Like they practice confirming that Wong has been doing this with abomination for a good
long while now in SI explain the timeline of the movie.
This takes place around the time falcon and winter soldier's happening.
But before Spider-Man Far From Home, and Spider-Man No Way Home.
So several months after avengers endgame everyone's asking why has Wong been working with the abomination
It just seems like a super weird thing to do really something more is going on here
than Wong just wanting to earn some more sandwich money.
I think is pretty clear from the look of the facility that he takes him back to that this
is supposed to be the raft.
Because that's where he was taken after the events of the incredible Hulk.
According to Kevin Feige, but they just kept him there all the way through avengers infinity war
The snap the blip in avengers endgame.
So whatever he's been doing this whole time, they always at least take him back to the raft
Even though he's only in the movie for a hot second the producers said that this is only
the beginning for the abomination in Marvel phase 4.
So I think were probably all in agreement this is all meant to be set up for a Val scene
is similar to the black widow post credit scene they explained that he's either been
working for Val for a long time already like the way yelena belova was we saw her show
up or Val is going to show up and recruit him.
When he comes back in the she Hulk series because that is the next place they confirmed
abomination is coming back.
According to Kevin Feige Mark Ruffalo's Bruce Banner and his holder also coming back for
that to for she holds origin story and is also probably why Banner showed up during
the post credit scene as well.
Because when you're picking whose going to show up in avengers post credit scene how
do you pick usually want to T something that's happening really soon.
And a lot of what happens in the post credit scene is foreshadowing for future Avengers 5 stuff
Which we won't see for a long time in for instance, the reason Captain Marvel showed
up in that post credit scene even though Captain Marvel to the marbles movie with the multiple
versions of Captain Marvel isn't going to happen for a good long while.
Is because Daniel Cretton the director of the Shang Chi movie had worked with Bree Larson
a lot in the past and they were friends and he just said oh you know whatever the post
credit scene, winds up being I would love to work with Brie Larson again.
So if you're wondering why they did it avengers zoom call like they did during avengers endgame.
That's why they did it that way because they had to explain how Captain Marvel could be
there get still be on the other side of the galaxy increase crawl space.
They also said that they pick the characters that were going to be in the post credit scene
at the last minute.
Like that was literally the last thing that they film for the movie during re-shoots so
Kevin Feige and Marvel wanting to tease what's happening next and she Hulk is the reason
why Bruce Banner was in that post credit scene specifically the whole thing with abomination
during she Hulk though is that the series is actually being billed is a half-hour legal
comedy type of show.
Even though I don't think that is going to be a comedy straight up.
Like they're playing up the idea that she's a lawyer for superheroes in the Marvel universe.
That's why it's going to be a nine episode series because it's going to be closer to
the episode length of Wandavision.
But even though she's a lawyer her normal gamma form is always closer to being more
like Professor Hulk's gamma form.
Like she rarely went full incredible Hulk.
So she spends most of her time as an 8 foot tall green lawyer who superstrong but also
has all of her mental capacity and intelligence is Jennifer Walters and because the lawyer
part of it all.
They kind of tease that they're going to be doing different cameos in different episodes.
Like different cases in different episodes in the use that to cameo different Marvel
characters abomination might be one of her cases in that's why he's back for the series.
But also as part of that the weave in the Val thunderbolts and dark avengers of it all
also I hope that they tease a big Hulk versus abomination rematch, but will see because
the whole banner of it all.
Like he's turned back into Banner now from Professor Hulk.
I know there a ton of questions about that to get remember the banner can control his
gamma form and even though he had an agreement with the Hulk like that's why they became
Professor Hulk because the Holt wanted to be free.
But Banner also wanted to be in control as well.
I don't do they plan on killing him off or anything like that anytime soon.
I think part of the reason why he's banner here is one because they didn't want to spend
the extra money.
But the extra couple million dollars it would cost to do him his motion capture is a full
version of the Hulk because even though they do have a big budget for the movie that is
super expensive is way easier to have just look is banner and shop with the sling and
I think that budgetary consideration also factors into the way they're going to use
him during the she Hulk series.
Like yes he will Hulk out at some point during the she Hulk series, but is probably going
to be banner for a lot of that to just because it's way cheaper to have them walk around
is banner with the whole vibe of abomination during the Shang Chi movie is her trying to
give him more of an antihero arc in the MCU instead of the strata villain.
The way they ended with his character in the incredible Hulk film is also possible early
theory that they pay off some of that thunderbolts dark avengers stuff during Captain America
for because clearly all the Val stuff in all these different movies and Disney plus series
is building up to something bigger.
Like when we actually going to see abomination running around with John Walker US agent Baron
Zemo yelena belova all the other Marvel antiheroes that shall theoretically put on that team
event Julia Louis Dreyfuss was also seen recently getting ready to film near Atlanta where they're
filming Black Panther to.
So a lot of people are theorizing that she's going to show up during Black Panther to to
recruit another villain from that movie.
Let me know in the comments you think that might wind up being.
It also because we know from the black widow post credit scene with yelena belova will
be a big part of the Hawkeye series were going to see those episodes later this year, Val
also might show up again during the Hawkeye series.
If you remember
The big Disney plus event happened last year when they release all those trailers that
there were whole bunch of trailers that they dumped looking to be doing the exact same
thing later this year in November.
So when I do videos for all those brand-new trailers for all the upcoming Disney plus
series will probably give us release dates for some of that stuff I'm working on a new
video for Avengers 5 and all the stuff that they set up with that in the post credit scene
obviously everyone still wondering about where that signal is broadcasting two from inside
the 10 rings and what's going on with them that should post the next couple of days make
sure you have alerts enabled so you don't miss that my full Marvel what if episode 5
video will also post Wednesday just like normal everyone click here for my Shang Chi post
credit scene video and click here for my full Shang Chi breakdown video with Easter eggs
for the entire movie.
Thank you so much for watching everyone stay safe and I'll see in the next video!