- What's up guys?
Hope you're doing well,
and welcome to another episode
of Do You Want To Talk About It?
A show where I, Scooter Magruder your host,
talk to athletes, content creators,
and other dope individuals and ask them,
"Do You Want To Talk About It?"
Today we are interviewing
legendary Dallas Cowboys receiver, Michael Gall--
Can I get some Ws in the chat?
Michael Gallup.
Ladies and gentlemen, Michael are you there?
Can you hear me?
I'm sorry. I'm a little bit, I'm a little bit hype.
- Little bit hype man, but I like it.
I like the energy. I'm here though. I'm here for it.
- I'm just, I'm just trying to match you.
I saw you, you know.
- I'm here for it.
How's everything going though with 'Rona? You good?
- Man... I'm solid.
Hanging out, playing video games.
- What video games are you playing?
- I was playing a little bit of FIFA earlier,
but you know I be on that Overwatch too.
- Overwatch? Who do you play as?
- I like the Orisa. I'm a big tank.
- Okay, okay.
See cause you don't wanna see the Junkrat, okay.
(Michael laughing)
That's all I'm saying.
You don't wanna see the Junkrat.
- Ay, at all . He breaking my shield down with two shots.
- Well let's start this thing off.
We are just trying to get to know who is Michael Gallup?
The person behind the helmet.
So let's just take us back to the genesis, the beginning.
Where did you grow up?
When did you know,
"Hey I might be good at this sport called football"?
- Well I grew up in Georgia.
Small town, Walton county, Monroe area.
Honestly, I didn't really actually see the football fields
until I was in ninth grade.
I played, I started playing in middle school.
- Okay.
- But I was picking grass on the sideline.
- Oh, you were one of the equipment managers
is what you're saying?
- Yeah, you know.
- [Scooter Magruder] Okay.
- I took the pads out, cleaned them up, all that good stuff.
But yeah, I ain't actually really see the field
till I got you know, freshmen in high school.
Played you know, quarterback.
Cause you know,
all the athletes played quarterback in high school.
And like I mean that's--
- Crucial
- Uh huh. Had to.
I mean probably my junior year I said,
"Maybe I can do something with this.
Maybe I can do something with it."
- So junior year is when you knew,
"Hey, ain't too many people who can guard me right now.
Maybe we can go higher."
(Scooter Magruder echoing)
"Further"
"Faster"
"Better"
I'm sorry, I-- It's just there.
Like I feel like I have to use it.
- Just do it. Just do it man.
- Okay, so junior year you start having these thoughts,
"Maybe I can do this.",
that's when I was having the thoughts that you know,
maybe I should focus on academics.
The same, like junior year,
that's also when I realized you know,
maybe this sports thing wasn't for me.
Cause I also play receiver in high school
Best receiver at my high school who couldn't catch.
It was actually astounding.
Really. What was happening.
So I know you initially started off
by going into a community college.
Can we talk about that? Did that help you succeed?
And do you think other athletes
should take that route if they need to?
- So put it this way.
I took that route because I had to, not because I wanted to.
I actually had like 30-something offers
coming out of high school.
And I was committed to South Carolina.
That's where, that's where I was gonna to go.
- Okay.
- But I didn't have the SAT scores.
- Okay.
- Not ashamed of it, not embarrassed of it.
I mean, it is what it is.
I did not have the SAT scores.
- Some people aren't good testers, you know. That's it.
- It's tough because you gotta sit in there
for eight, nine hours.
Like come on man.
- You're not going to South Carolina anymore.
Where are we going? How do we end up Colorado State?
- Like I said, I had to go to the junior college route.
I actually, I had a good freshman year.
But since I didn't qualify,
I had to stay a whole nother year.
I had to come back.
My sophomore year played two games, got hurt.
Out for the season.
- What was the injury?
- I had bone scarring, had to have surgery.
Cause you know, your your ankle is supposed to be like this,
mines was just pushing together like this, just rubbing.
Cause I had floating pieces of bone all through my ankle.
Yeah. Yeah.
- Okay. Can we get some Fs in the chat
for at for Michael's ankle real quick?
Some Fs in the chat.
It heals up though.
- Oh it healed up.
But got a call from one of my high school coaches.
He said "where you going?" I said "nowhere."
He said, "give me a second."
He got on the phone with coach Bobo.
Bobo calls me 10 minutes later.
He said, "Come on and visit at the Colorado State."
I said, "you ain't gotta tell me twice.
I ain't got nothing else."
(Scooter Magruder laughing)
- Now we're at Colorado State.
Are you big man on campus at Colorado State?
Do you just walk in, moussing people on sight?
Are you just? Are you raising up on people?
What is it like at Colorado State?
What was that transition like from Ju-Co to Colorado State?
- So our first, our first game we had was against CU.
Actual University of Colorado.
- Ooh. So you're starting off with the rivals game
- Our first game.
And we're playing in Mile High Stadium.
- Oh my gosh.
- Broncos players man.
And I've been playing
on a field with a track around it the whole time.
(ScooterMagruder laughing)
So we go up in there.
My quarterback says hut,
and I'm still looking up in the stands, just like this.
Like oh, okay.
- So you were a little bit shellshocked?
- I was a little bit shellshocked.
But you know, after that game I regrouped and got right.
I think I went on about six, seven games
where I had a hundred yards,
over a hundred yards, maybe two tubs each.
- Oh, okay. So this was, this was not hard for you.
- It was not hard for me out there.
- This was like, this was easy.
- Quick. Big fish little pond.
- Fast forward. Draft day. Boom.
You're sitting, where are you?
Where are you on draft day?
- I was actually still in Colorado. I was in Fort Collins.
- Okay. So you're in Fort Collins, it's draft day.
Are you thinking you're going one? First overall?
What's going through you,
you thinking maybe, maybe I get second?
Well maybe I can be 32, who knows? First round.
What are we, what are we thinking?
- I had those mock drafts and stuff, so you've seen it.
But I was honestly thinking five or six.
That's what I was thinking.
- You were thinking fifth or sixth round?
- That's what they were telling me,
just cause I went to a small school.
- Mm.
- I went to a small school,
so I couldn't play with these boys out here. Like, alright.
- Cowboys select Michael Gallup.
What's going through your head, your mind,
when you see that come up? Do you even see it?
What's happening? Are you fishing? What's going on?
- I was honestly, honestly I was playing Gotcha!,
and had all my boys up there with me.
We were out back playing basketball. We was playing Gotcha!
My phone rang. I said, "Oh. Texas number."
(ScooterMagruder laughing)
Oh okay. Houston or Dallas.
And I was just like eh,
either one of them, it's warm down there.
I can go down there and play. It's warm down there.
(ScooterMagruder laughing)
Come on. Pick me up.
- Who's on the other side of that call?
- Jerry Jones.
- So Jerry Jones calls your phone and he says,
"Gallup, we need a Super Bowl.
And we think you're the guy to do it. Come on down."
What does, what does Jerry say?
- My man got on the phone and he said,
"Mr. Gallup.", I said, "Yes sir.",
he said, "You know who this is?", and I said, "not exactly."
(ScooterMagruder laughing)
You couldn't recognize his voice?
- Did not recognize his voice.
You know, he sit up there in the booth man.
He goes, "we want you down here to be a Dallas Cowboy.
Can you do it?"
I said, "I'm on a flight right now.
(ScooterMagruder laughing)
I'm on a flight right now. Come on"
My sister walked outside
and said that Dallas Cowboys have a pick right now.
Right when we're playing my phone rings.
So they, they were already freaking out.
You might want to go back inside and look at the TV.
(Scooter Magruder laughing)
I had to tell them to quiet down
so we could all hear my name get called.
- Oh my gosh.
Okay. So we're a Dallas Cowboy player now.
We are in the NFL,
we've made the journey from Georgia to Colorado,
now we're in Dallas Texas, a receiver.
We're a rookie.
- You know when I lined up I was just like,
just don't mess up.
Just don't mess up. Don't do it. Everybody watching now.
Everybody watching.
Ain't no Colorado State where you know,
you're playing at eight o'clock at night.
- One of the questions that they wanted me to ask
is who is the best DB
you've ever gone up against?
NFL, college, it might be in high school.
Who's the best DB?
Every time you see him,
every time you line up against him, you just...
(ScooterMagruder sighing)
Okay. You know. Like you know he's going to be grabbing you.
You know you got to hit him with the "Oh, get off me."
Who do you know it's gonna be a tough time
every time I see this guy?
- I'm already gonna say, it's gotta be Jalen Ramsey.
It's gotta be. It's gotta be.
He is lanky, he go to goddamn hit you
right in the face or something like that.
(ScooterMagruder laughing)
It's just like you can't even touch him,
cause you know he's so lanky he's already out of there.
But he is, he's a problem. He's a problem.
And he's talking the whole time.
I know that's what DBs do, but he on a different level.
He on a different level.
- So you're saying Jalen Ramsey
has some elite levels of trash talk,
as well as elite lank levels.
- Elite. Elite.
- So you can't teach lankiness--
- Uh uh.
- And that. That's an unfair advantage that Jalen does have.
- He is a problem. He is a problem. He knows it too.
- Let's keep this, this football related talk going.
You think of your best play. You think of this?
- I'd probably say when we were playing the Jaguars.
My rookie year, and I'm talking about I went in,
I didn't score the touchdown,
couldn't get my second foot down,
but I went up and caught that ball
and I was in the air for so long.
- Let's talk about that.
- I literally watched you jump while in the air.
How is my question?
- I think... I mean, you know that adrenaline rushing.
I wasn't getting too many passes my rookie year like that.
So it's like, you got to take this one.
You got to go get up there and get it.
- You got to make every opportunity count.
How has your relationship with Dak grown since rookie year?
- Oh yeah. It's way stronger. Way stronger.
I know, I mean coming in my rookie year,
I mean I didn't even want to ask like a question
because I was too scared to mess up.
- Did you call him Mr.?
Or like, "Excuse me Mr. Dak, sir, um...
I'm just wondering is it, what do,
do I have the out or is it the post sir?"
- I was scared. Scared to say something wrong.
But we do have that connection now.
I mean you know, if it's behind,
change it to a gold bar, I'm running right past the DB.
Come on, throw it up baby.
- Let's talk about this last draft.
We see our dude CeeDee sliding,
so this is what I wanna know.
Now there's three really good receivers now.
So what, what did you think of that pick?
Obviously, great player.
We want a great player,
but it's like he plays the same position as me.
What, what was going through your mind?
- I'm definitely like right when we make the pick,
you know I'm thinking of every possible way
to like control how I was feeling.
Cause I was just like...
I was like, "Oh. That's a three headed snake though."
That's all I'm thinking about.
But if you're not embracing that competition either though,
I don't know why you're playing football.
- Are we saying Dallas has the best wide receiver core
in the NFL right now?
- I know we're lethal. I know we're lethal.
We're gonna go crazy, I know that. I know that.
- Ooh. Lethal.
I've also been told you like country music.
Is this true, Gallup?
(Michael laughing)
- That is true. That is very true.
- Are we listening to Hootie & the Blowfish pregame?
What is going on? What are we bumping?
- I'm not, I'm not sure if we're listening to it pregame.
On the flight, of course.
- So you are a bit of a country boy.
- Yeah. Definitely.
- Would that be accurate to say?
- Very. Very accurate.
- You talked to Cooper. Have you heard him speak?
(Michael laughing)
- Yeah.
- [Scooter Magruder] Okay.
- Not a whole lot, but I've heard him speak.
- Okay, okay, okay.
What's your relationship like
with the wide receiver core as a whole?
- I mean, it's good with me.
I think it's been a little bit tricky though
because you know we've had, you know,
my rookie year, you know,
it was like the only wide receiver that we actually had
that didn't come in was you know, Beasley.
Everybody else was newbie.
We just had a, we have a tight group.
- Have you heard Cole Beasley freestyle?
- Yeah. Yeah, I've heard them do that.
- Do I challenge him one-on-one in a freestyle battle?
- Personally, I'd say no.
- Okay. So he's nice like that.
- I mean, unless you think you nice like that.
- I mean... Chat, do I do it, yes or no in the chat?
The heck?
Now talking about the receiver core still,
have you been able to connect
with some of the veteran receivers like Dez?
I don't think you played with Dez, is that right?
- Oh yeah.
- [Scooter Magruder] You touched down there?
- I've actually been out there to throw with him.
We've had a couple of sessions,
and I mean he's just good peoples man.
He's always you know, teaching me up on something.
You know, get lower like this, you know,
come out of your breaks like this.
He's good peoples and you know,
he's rooting for everybody that plays for Dallas.
- Bringing us to a very important segment,
we're talking touchdown celebrations.
When you score, we need, we need the Gallup, okay?
We need the Gallup.
I've been thinking about this actually.
The Cowboys have the best player celebrations.
If you think about it, we had Dez throw up the X,
We have Ezek feed him,
we had Cole Beasley with the sauce for awhile.
We need to continue this tradition.
We-- Bro, just think about it.
Every catch they're playing the little--
(ScooterMagruder making drum noises)
(Michael laughing)
Every catch. That's all I'm saying.
That's all I'm saying. If you want--
- I hear you, I hear you.
- [Scooter Magruder] If you want to elevate the brand.
For the brand.
- For the brand.
- Let's change it up. Let's go inverse. Worst hit, okay?
So you're just minding your business,
next thing you know, you're on the ground.
One of those moments.
- Definitely at JuCo.
- Okay, so we're going back to JuCo.
- Mm hm.
- What happened?
- It was supposed to be simple.
(ScooterMagruder laughing)
Three yards, catch the screen.
I had a screen. One up, two back.
I go to turn around... This man is up under my chin.
Smacked me. I'm on the ground.
I said, "Hold on. What just happened?".
- At this point were you questioning like,
why am I doing this?
Like what? What? I just... Why?
- I was hurting. I was mad. I was hurting.
- I asked the Ezek the same question,
I want to see if it lines up with your answer.
Who is the funniest player on the team?
- Man. I would... Honestly I'd probably say D Law.
- Okay.
- I have to say D Law.
- That was also his answer.
- Before we were about to play the Giants,
little kid asked for his autograph.
(Scooter Magruder laughing)
He has on a New York Giants tee shirt,
D Law says, "Naw, get the right jersey on."
I said, "Oh."
(Scooter Magruder laughing and clapping hands together)
- You heard that. You heard this.
You didn't see the story, you were there and heard it.
- This kid's probably six, seven years old.
He said, "Nah. Get the right jersey on."
- Just immediately.
- I don't even know if he looked at him.
(Scooter Magruder laughing)
- That was a Savage moment.
That, that I think solidified D Law.
I know a lot of football players are great hoopers.
In fact, some football players
are better basketball players than football players.
Where are you on the spectrum? Are you complete trash?
- Oh no. I'm definitely not complete trash. No.
- Could you have gone to Colorado State for basketball?
- Oh yeah. Definitely. Definitely.
- Without a doubt?
- Definitely. Without a doubt.
- See, that's interesting because I asked Ezeke
if we were to make an all Cowboy team, basketball players,
you were not on the team.
Do you want to talk about it?
- I have not hooped with Ezeke yet.
He ain't seen me hoop.
- So he doesn't know. He's unaware.
- He don't know yet.
- Of the greatness.
- Yup.
- Can you dunk?
- What kind of question is that?
- I mean I... Look, I have seen you jump 60 feet.
It might not translate though. It might not translate.
- I ain't gonna lie though,
basketball jumping is way different from football jumping.
- It really is.
- But yes, I can definitely dunk.
- Have you been dunked on,
and do you want to talk about that?
- It was actually in high school.
We was playing,
we were playing Deshaun Watson's high school team.
- Okay, okay.
- They was on a fast break.
(Scooter Magruder laughing)
And it was about three of them folks running down the court.
It was just me.
I jumped up there with a open hand.
He hammered it down. He hammered it down.
- Can we get some "sit downs" in the chat please?
Just some "sit downs" please.
(Michael laughing)
Madden rating. What should yours be and why?
- I think, I think mine should be at least an 81.
I think mine should be at least a 81.
- I'm thinking we should at least be 87, 88.
Shoot, chat. What, what are we giving Michael Gallup?
I'm going 87, 88. Okay, let us know.
Go to karaoke song.
What are we singing karaoke? I'll start.
For me it has always been My Girl, Temptations. That song.
I can sing that song when I wake up, when I go to sleep,
I know it by heart backwards forwards,
it just gets people in the mood, okay.
- See what, what's really crazy is right there
you said My Girl from the Temptations.
- Mm hmm.
(Michael sighing)
- I could really do that too though.
I could really do that too though.
- Bro don't make me.
- And that's what's really--
- Don't.
- That's really crazy.
Me and my momma love the Temptations.
- So you're just stealing?
- See what I'm saying?
See, you answered way before me.
- Wow chat.
Last question, here we go.
Michael Gallup, is Sean Lee playing?
- Oh, Sean Lee gon' play. Sean Lee is gonna play.
- There you have it chat. There you have it chat.
I just want to thank Michael Gallup for coming.
Thanks for your time brother, thanks for coming on.
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