the sierra club has decided it's going to reverse course
and turn over its long-standing policy against breaking the law they're going
to actually engaged in civil disobedience thus it was just announced
this week
executive director of the sierra club michael brennan
uh... he was actually on the enters on monday with tank and he talked about how
important it is for the president to take action on climate change
so what they're doing now the sierra club
there are going to sponsor a huge massive rally in washington d_c_ on
february seventeenth two protests the keystone excel pipeline
this is a really big deal for the sierra club you know they're one of the more
stayed conservative inserted uh...
grand old gentleman i guess of of the environmental groups answer for that to
say that this is important enough that we're going to change our policy and get
ourselves arrested and go to jail for this
this is a really big deal when you guys think
i think it's going to take part in a and i think they're realizing that their tax
excise
hard-working and that perhaps sister action is at least sound working
shopping
i think that one of the most depressing statistics i've seen in probably the
last five or so years is that
uh... after roughly after al gore's documentary came out everything uh...
support for the idea that global warming is happening
had been going up in the first here's this decade
but then three or four years ago he started to dip down not just the united
states in the u_k_ is well and it just blew my mind that as the evidence was
that was rat ramping up announcing up uh... in support of that is happening
the public support for doing anything about it was going down or even
believing that it is existed was going down
uh... i think that its
i don't know if it's it's the fault of the though organizations that they were
able to get the word out work it's just the fact that conservative groups and
conservative pundits are muddying the waters so much further
sobbed but they'll be at the close enough that you can't trust scientists
but and we did you think it's time to the economy and all and people
more concerned about you know other warm relevant were pressing issues of what
they mean by midnight and your clinton's students struggling actually and and
there's one person at this time
exactly that that is what happens now is that their polls that show that whenever
the economy tanks bands that people
care less for the environment i care more for johnson that that makes a lot
of sense you know and
but with the extreme weather that we've been having and you know which climate
scientists predicted would happen that decades ago they said we can expect that
with the global warming will see more extreme swings in both temperature and
extreme weather events that will happen more often they'll be more intense
that these kinds of things actually do have an effect on the american public on
their opinion polls uh... that that we overcame sandy
hit a lot of people definitely set up all this
this is what you're talking about how i see when i got being on my house is
under fifteen feet of water getting passed away
sometimes it does take any hint of sunday had an order to decides to take
action on something
you know and
in what's really going to be very interesting about this is that
scientists to say that we are
in a very brief window of time where we can't make a difference and actually
stave off some of the worst effects of climate change that they have model with
computer models and said hey you know
this looks like this thing that happened back about fifty five million years ago
where the polls had no water in your alligators at the arctic
and i say okay you know what might be a problem back and then you see levels
rising up a hundred and fifty feet three hundred over a couple hundred years you
know we're gonna have some issues to deal with an a lot of other issues as
well so
this window of time that we have a pen
they're saying previn obama you need to act and there's sierra club is saying
that we are going to make sure that he does as at least pushing as much as we
can intuit and influencing the conversations much as we can
well let me ask you a question in regards to that so the sierra club is
saying that we are going to do what we never done before and we're gonna
actually do
civil disobedience
do you think that that's enough at this point but i i've heard arguments about
that window is what i've also heard some of the scientists who think that they
might very well be passed it
or at least it's about the process by
if after all of this in and all the extreme weather that we've seen of the
last few years if
is a rally end up at this point
do you think the conservatives if they care as much of an issue would just be
rallying
there really are a few conservatives that do care about climate change in
actually except the scientific evidence
there are is a promising movement in that direction and i think that by the
sierra club doing this you know the thing is venerable organization coming
out that they do
provide some political cover some political ramification
making the rally big enough is enough people show up on february seventeenth
then for future actions of their planning with three fifty dot or if they
do have a chance to you know influence the conversation precedent away the
sierra club also has a lot of money
survey put that money to work that's and when people see had some people hear
politicians talking about it
in the making of the media talking about
with the science says vs wade you know that the denier say when eight here the
president talking about a manicure politicians talking about it helps to
actually moved the needle
just a little bit even
online taking action on this very serious problem that
the window is close