I've had someone pull out a knife and a
huge long machete my flat when I see the
things long families like that big fun
do I need to know a tech mess on the
case
another common does that to me I'm gonna
look when I roll is not an stop people
I'm fair for my life and if the police
stop me now and throw me away I'm like
yo should you go to prison for carrying
a knife great
and then tired of seeing mostly black
boys on the cover of the Evening
Standard every day dying from knife
crime the law is there as a deterrent
yeah so you know if you do this this
will happen if carrying a knife in and
of itself will cause you to go to jail I
can't think of a better deterrent than
that
I'm not saying here that the law
shouldn't exist than people who carry
weapons shouldn't be locked up or
shouldn't be arrested laws are here to
protect people but actually the laws
aren't preventing people carrying knives
me go into a ten year old an eleven year
old who's carrying a knife in their
pocket 13 years old and saying rat
you've got a knife when you're being
locked up boom done that's your life is
a problem to me I feel like something
bigger needs to be done just looking up
everyone it's not going to change my
people carry knives they've been
arrested binge oh yeah I knew command it
carry knives in a smart way a smart way
what if you're kinda knife what are you
you intended to cause harm what else
what you're not gonna cut a cake are you
in the back of your mind if you get
scared you're gonna use it I don't agree
I don't agree these are you keeping in
your pocket other people think that far
now grow up in Stratham I said be around
Brixton I went to school wholesale
sometimes there's no other options you
have to do what you need to do to make
money there's sometimes men feel that
you know what I need to double up I need
to find a way to make an income and make
money and in it some time it can't be
involves violence and when you involve
violence you feel like you have to
protect yourself because you can't go to
the police
like it's just like a kid and he happens
to have a knife but I don't want him to
suddenly be in jail for the rest of his
life because he was carrying this knife
because he was scared or he thought like
had to defend himself so in that
scenario that's why I said you need to
evaluate every situation but they are
some guys who are out there and they
were on their way to take someone's life
but then has putting people in prison
reduced crime it hasn't you could think
of but then it's taken someone who is
really dangerous right but then it's
also left about 10 other people still
the system is flawed however there are
some people who they've gone to prison
and that one person who's gone to prison
has maybe saved ten lives and if that's
what's happening I'm down for that
do you think that we're more aware of it
now because it's in the media definitely
I'm saying it's the other day people
have been using nice it's decades but
because of the media it's out there in
your face you're more empowering I know
but 12 year old trial to be getting said
that I just think what's welcome to
happen
he wants to carry a knife
it shows intent yeah and you want to
prevent the problem before it happens
but that's why the person should be
locked up and that's why the measures
should be taken in that way what do you
guys like your open down to education
Familia and that's not always the way
forward and fight fighting fire with
fire is never gonna be the way forward
so it's a snowball effect because if
someone gets a knife then someone gets
stabbed and they retaliate and so on
I feel like the problem is that our
parents that they live in denial that
our children can never hold a knife
because the problem is so big now it
should be made of sort of thing where
the parents actually raise that
awareness from home whether their child
and parent should stop living in denial
thinking that children are perfect I
remember being in school and then the
olders would rush us in it just playing
around and sometimes go a bit too far
and people go to school feeling scared
and these are ten eleven year old kids
here that's not even had really had a
life here and the old fool is gonna need
like a little penknife the school
imagine now then try to look them up or
giving them a criminal record and now
then they've disadvantage is cool but
because it feels so scared and not
protected that's why they're doing that
man I think you need to look at exact
reasons why man what the discussion
really needs to be is why are people out
here carrying knives in the first place
or why are people in an environment
where they feel so unsafe that they need
to put a weapon in their pocket what
we're overlooking is there is a middle
ground between being able to just run
around after carrying a knife and being
locked up and that's the rehabilitation
side and that's the mentor inside I just
think like flat you're carrying a knife
I'm locking you up for X amount of time
it's not doing anything actually in
order to deal with the problem it needs
to be something rehabilitative in that
the best thing is if you're if you find
yourself in a situation where you're
your victim or you're being bullied by
you know a crowd of people the best
thing to do would be to seek advice from
or seek counsel from from the older ones
carrying a knife or you know or trying
to hurt someone who's trying to hurt you
is it's just a cycle of vengeance and
and hatred you're they just build enough
I think that's a really good point
you