THIS NEEDS TO BE SHUT DOWN
BEFORE IT BECOMES A PART OF THE
POLITICAL BACK DROP OF THIS
COUNTRY FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL
YEARS.
>> LET ME TALK ABOUT SOMETHING
YOU YOU SAID ABOUT RESPONSIBLE
ADULTS. IT’S A MOMENT I THINK EVERYONE
IT’S A MOMENT I THINK EVERYONE HAS SEEN BY NOW.
HAS SEEN BY NOW.
IN 2008 JOHN McCAIN CONFRONTED
ONE.
THE DISINFORMATION WAS COMING
FROM HIS RUNNING MATE SARAH
PALIN.
AND THE CALLS THAT JOHN McCAIN
WOULD GET ON THE BUS FROM HIS
FORMER SENATE COLLEAGUES, MOST
OF THEM FROM THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE
OF THE AISLE, BUT THERE WAS A
CONVERSATION, AS YOU JUST SAID,
BEN RHODES, AMONG ADULTS, WHO
ARE THE ADULTS RIGHT NOW ON THE
REPUBLICAN SIDE OF THE AISLE?
I DON’T COUNT ANY.
>> YEAH.
AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR.
IT’S NOT THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO
AGREE TO EVERYBODY ISSUE.
LET’S GET BACK TO FIGHTING ABOUT
THE SIZE OF GOVERNMENT OR
TAXATION OR NATIONAL SECURITY
POLICY OR -- THEY CAN HATE EVERY
POLICY THAT JOE BIDEN PUTS
FORWARD.
BUT IF WE CAN’T AGREE ON FACTS
AND DEMOCRACY IN THIS COUNTRY
AND WE CAN’T AGREE THAT THE
PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
CLAIMING THAT HE WON AN ELECTION
THAT HE CLEARLY LOST AND LOST BY
A PRETTY GOOD MARGIN, THAT THE
ENTIRE RATHER PARTY SHOULDN’T GO
ALONG WITH THAT.
YOU WOULD THINK, NICOLE, AND YOU
KNOW THE PARTY BETTER THAN I,
THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WERE
AROUND BEFORE TRUMP AND HAD A
POLITICAL IDENTITY BEFORE
TRUMPISM TOOK OVER THE
REPUBLICAN PARTY, PEOPLE LIKE
ROB PORTMAN WHO SERVED WITH YOU
IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION,
PEOPLE WHO ARE ROCK SOLID
CONSERVATIVES WHO DID NOT COME
OUT OF A CONSPIRACY THEORY.
THERE ARE A THE LO OF OF THOSE
PEOPLE LEFT OVER THERE.
AND THEY KNOW THIS IS TRUE.
I CANNOT POSSIBLY BELIEVE THAT
MOST OF THESE REPUBLICANS THINK
IT’S PART OF A DEEP STATE
CONSPIRACY.
THEY KNOW IT NOT TRUE.
TED CRUZ, WHO SAID HE WOULD
ARGUE THIS CASE BEFORE THE
SUPREME COURT, HE KNOWS THIS IS
NOT TRUE.
SHAME ON HIM.
HE’S DOING THIS FOR WHAT, TO TAP
INTO TRUMP’S SUPPORT?
IT’S NOT WORTH POISONING THE
WELFARE REFORM OF THE CONSPIRACY
THEORIST BASE THAT TRUM OF HAS
CREATED HERE.
>> I WANT TO COME BACK TO WHAT’S
HAPPENING ON THE STREETS AND
OUTSIDE THE HOMES OF PUBLIC
SERVANTS BECAUSE ANOTHER
BATTLEFIELD IS THE POLICY
DEBATES AROUND HOW TO PROTECT
OURSELVES FROM THE RAGING
CORONAVIRUS PANDEMIC BEFORE
VACCINATIONS ARE AVAILABLE.
I WANT TO GIVE A LITTLE CON TB.
SHOW THIS.
THE STATE HEALTH BOARD OF
DEBATING MICK HEALTH MEASURES
FOR PRO TECHNICALING DIFFERENT
PARTS OF THE STATE.
I WANT TO SHOW YOU THE TERROR
THAT ONE MEMBER WAS DRIVEN TO.
THIS IS DIANA LAKANODIA.
>> MY 12-YEAR-OLD SON IS HOME BY
HIMSELF RIGHT NOW AND THERE ARE
PROTESTERS BANGING OUTSIDE THE
DOOR, OKAY?
I’M GOING TO GO HOME AND MAKE
SURE HE’S OKAY.
>> SO SHE IS A MEMBER OF THE
IDAHO HEALTH BOARD.
THEIR TOPIC WAS PUBLIC HEALTH
MEASURES TO PROTECT CITIZENS OF
THEIR STATE FROM THE CORONAVIRUS
PANDEMIC.
THEY HAD TO STOP THE MEETING
BEFORE THEY WERE GOING TO VOTE
ON A REPUBLIC VIEZVISED HEALTH O
WOULD HAVE PUT IN NEW
RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE THE
PANDEMIC IS RAGING THERE.
I MEAN, SHE WAS OBVIOUSLY
FEELING TERRORIZED, THERE WERE
PROTESTERS OUTSIDE HER HOME, HER
12-YEAR-OLD SON WAS HOME ALONE.
THIS IS A PROTEST OUTSIDE THE
HEALTH BOARD OFFICES.
WHEN DO THESE THREATS AND PEOPLE
FEELING TERRORIZED, AT WHAT
POINT DOES THAT INTERSECT WITH
LAW ENFORCEMENT?
>> YEAH, IT FASCINATING NICOLE. IMAGINE IT WAS 2008 AND 2009 AND
IMAGINE IT WAS 2008 AND 2009 AND
WE WERE LISTENING TO ANWAR
MALACHY.
AND IT’S HAPPENING ALL AROUND
THIS COUNTRY.
WE HAVE AMERICANS SHOWING UP
WITH GUNS, RIGHT?
BUT NOT JUST ON PUBLIC PROPERTY
NOW.
WE SEE THEM SHOWING UP ON
PRIVATE PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS THAT LINE FOR LAW
ENFORCEMENT.
WHAT IS PEACEFUL ASSEMBLY AND
WHAT IS CLEAR I INCITING OR
THREATENING VIOLENCE OR
MOBILIZING.
I IMAGINE FOR STATE AND LOCAL
LAW ENFORCEMENT RIGHT NOW,
PARTICULARLY IN SOME OF THIEVESE
TRUMP SUPPORTERS, WE SAW IT FROM
GABRIEL STERLING LAST WEEK,
TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE CONDUCTING
ROULTS AND RECONNAISSANCE.
IT’S REALLY FASCINATING HOW OUR
FRAME HAS CHANGED BECAUSE IT’S
PART OF OUR OWN POLITICAL
LEADERSHIP THAT’S DOING THIS.
I THINK AT THIS POINT THERE’S
BEEN SEVERAL INSTANCES THAT HAVE
CROSSED THE LINE.
I THINK WE HAVE A SCALING
PROBLEM WHERE THE FBI HAS BEEN
DEGRADED IN TERMS OF ITS PUBLIC
REPUTATION.
THE PRESIDENT HAS CAUSED HARM TO
THE FBI.
THEY ARE NOT TRUSTED IN THE SAME
WAY IN TRUMP AND NOW IMAGINE
YOU’RE A FEDERAL OFFICER GOING
OUT THERE, WORK WITH STATE AND
LUL, WHICH MEANS THEY MAY OR MAY
NOT BE IN TOTAL ALIGNMENT WITH
WHAT IS GOING ON.
A LO WE’VE GOT SOME WEIRD
CURRENTS IN THE COUNTRY AND I
DON’T KNOW HOW THIS THEN YOU
WILL SEE THE POLITICIANS.
WE’VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN BEFORE
WITH MASS SHOOTERS.
WE WATCHED A SHOOTING A THE A
WALMART AT TEXAS A COUPLE YEARS
AGO AND THEN PEOPLE COME WITH
THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS AND WE HAVE
TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS. WE COULD HAVE THIS DOMINO EFFECT
WE COULD HAVE THIS DOMINO EFFECT
IN THE, POST HP INAUGURATION, WE
NOW HAVE EXTREMISTS OUT THERE
PLOTTING AND PLANNING.
THERE ARE NO SO THERE AS A VERY
LIMITED NUMBER OF WAYS THEY CAN
ATTACK.
I’M WORRIED ABOUT THE TIMOTHY
McVEIGH, THE ERIC RUDOLPH TYPES