Davis: this keeps getting like more things added to it I'm just like what, you can't even add anybody else to this oh
Davis: sh*t, yeah, we can so here's a whole other group of instruments now Peyton: I just f*cking love it though like i'm digging this
Umu: okay, so Loona is a girl group who has not officially debuted yet they're basically an 18-month project from October 2016 to March/
Umu: April 2018 where every single month a new member or subunit is revealed and they will all debut in
Umu: 2018 as a 12th member group Fiona: Wow, that's really weird Lindsey: that's awesome!
Umu: So far eight members have released solo songs and every single solo song is a different genre so basically they are assigning genres to
Umu: every single member anyways this is the subunit 1/3, sonatine is from a
Umu: repackage album of
Umu: Love and live this is called love and evil that has more of a darker theme of love and evokes the cruelty of love Rachel: okay
Gwen: oh, I know all about that Rache: Don't we all
Davis: Sonatine, in sona three and two- sorry
Davis: one
Jarod: dude Sonatine that's a heavy term right there that's classical stuff you know
Naoki: Oh cool Stephen: nice piano Nao: yeah this is different
Gwen: that person sounded like a violin rachel: yeah
Henry: real strings, good job
Davis: So tender
Emiel: her voice is really good
Henry: Yeah, she's like a like a i'm not a vocalist but sounds like she's an alto
Stephen: well, it's nice cause there's a lighter instrumental texture so you can really hear like what they're doing . Naoki: yeah exactly That's really smart.
Naoki: yeah, and their harmonies as well, they're good harmonies Stephen: yeah
Kahnh: nice
Kahnh: i like how they're still building and there haven't been any drops yet and it's like it reminds me of the older
Khanh: songs Kevin: and like the rhythmic kick sort of like comes in and out like some sections are more rhythmic
Henry: the arranging is good
Henry: like the way that all the vocal parts work it's obviously someone who knows how to arrange for voices did this woah
Lindsey: they're just like everywhere you know, nonharmonic tones just poppin' up
Fiona: it sounds like this would be really hard to sing Lindsey: it sounds like her voice just got like
Lindsey: WHAT
Lindsey: did this just turn into a f*cking tango Fiona: it's like french
Fiona: Italian something
Fiona: Whatttt Lindsey: but then it had like the clave in there
Kevin: it still feels like it's building up, it's not it hasn't dropped or anything yeah
Rachel: I really like the chords
Gwen: yeah, it's not a
Gwen: it's a chord progression that you can jive to, you're not like freaked out by it but it's also not like super
Gwen: Obvious Rachel: i also need an easy button that i bring to these things that says "i like the chords"
Jarod: cause like this is not like idk how to describe like what the vibe you know what I'm saying
Jarod: it's not like a dance tune like a lot of other kpop music
Jarod: it's like a little bit more than a ballad Rachel: it's like it kind of has hints of like orchestral broadway kind of style we listen to
Kahnh: that what a parallel, chromatic Kevin:the melodies are so different from everything else I've heard
Emiel: the harmonic like shifts and like the little steps, step outs are really cool
Emiel: thing that makes the band like that's what kind of gives them their own touch
Gwen: their voices blend really well but there's
Gwen: they do that thing where they like technically singing together but one person is a little more Rachel: more highlighted yeah
Kevin: it doesn't drop per se Kahn: it doesn't no but this would i guess this is the climax here cause they're all
Kahn: like how thick the harmonies are but every time it's different and the girl (demonstrates) you know, up there
Davis: This keeps getting more things added to it like what taking to add it to it
Davis: I'm just like
Davis: you can't add anybody else to this oh sh*t yeah we can, here's a whole 'nother group of
instruments now Peyton: I just fucking love it though like I'm diggin' this
Henry: weird wow yeah it's really cool yeah i really really like that i cannot wait to see more of this group Emiel: cool
Umu: so what do you think about this song overall musically Henry: wow
Henry: really really awesome Emiel: i thought it was harmonically intriguing more than anything and their voices fit really well together
Emiel: So- great group. Henry: there were like a couple little twists i couldn't quite place it wasn't so overly symmetrical that it was like okay
Henry: Sometimes i'll be like singing along to a pop song and halfway through it i already know exactly what's like happening
Henry: which like we can just like know
Henry: sometimes because we're musicians and we've played to thousands of those songs that sound like that there was nothing in there that i could definitively
Henry: latch onto after one listen yeah which is super
Henry: it's super intriguing and it makes me want to listen
Henry: way more Stephen: i thought it was cool i just i feel like just because like sometimes if you have drums or at least with pop
Stephen: Songs they're like super heavy and big they couldn't have had such a complex vocal line or like
Stephen: super arranged harmonies but because there was no drums i thought like there is some really nice moments in the chorus
Katie: You, know actually i feel like it's pretty accurate sonatine
Jarod: i think that translates to sonata but i don't think that really follows sonata form Katie: no but it just it reminds me
Katie: of like or like a concertina it's like dainty Jarod: like a mini something yeah
Umu: a sonatine is basically a small sonata
Umu: and it has no single strict definition is rather a title applied by a composer to a piece that is in basic sonata form but
Umu: is shorter and lighter in character or technically more elementary than a typical sonata Jarod: well that's exactly what that was
Umu: except not in sonata form Jarod: except yeah minus yeah the key part of the word Katie: minus minus minus
Jarod: more or less Is a cute little thing Peyton: oh man so much was going on in that song yeah i think
Peyton: it would have almost been more effective if they tailed it back the same way they came in i felt like they were slowly
Peyton: adding on layered to layer to layer like the groove was set up and then that was kind of like the foundation
Peyton: for them to build a house yeah and
Peyton: Once they kind of like got up to the top of the house
Peyton: you Know it's like it should've been like kind of like the end of the day and then maybe the sun was like setting and like
Peyton: You know slowly got darker as the house disappeared into the night you know like
Peyton: maybe that kind of thing yeah this singing technique was it was interesting i can't put my finger on why it like
Gwen: it felt so strange but like rachel: they only don't really have brakes
Gwen: yeah
Gwen: it's like Rachel: whatever the basis of their singing is for most of them it's like
Rachek: Breakless but it might not be head voice Gwen: maybe
Kahnh: this song was not very rhythmically driven... like there's no like heavy percussion stuff like that it's just piano
Kahnh: Strings you know a couple of keyboard percussion instruments but a much more
Kahnh: Orchestral feel than a- kevin: and every time the orchestration is different which seems like there's no laziness Khanh: oh yeah
Kahn: No like all of the transitions- the instrumental interludes- like the transitions were all or like had different orchestrations which was really cool
Kevin: there's something that goes like
Kevin: there's that weird chromatic that that motion which i've never heard in any musical composition
Kahnh: there we go I think that's scale degree 9
Kevin: if the song's in an E major which probably is that yes Kahn: yeah no cause i'm hearing that as a 9 in that chord Kevin: yeah cause this chord is a C#
Kevin: so that's actually that's actually get ready guys it's an 11th Both: BOOM OHHHHHH
Lindsey: that was awesome Fiona: that was just really unique and like yeah props to them like that was refreshing
Lindsey: I can't believe there was no drum in that
Lindsey: I'm not
Lindsey: i'm not over it that's awesome it was just really weird like a kind of wish that there was
Lindsey: Drums but i'm also really happy that they made that work without it because how often do you hear a non acoustic pop song that
Lindsey: doesn't have drums in it never Fiona: yeah like who
Lindsey: So unique everybody should get on this sh*t Umu: anyways okay so now we'll move on to their first
UMu: release in this one
Umu: the concept of the video like i said before is just like the
Umu: typical beauty cuteness and happiness that comes with love in the music video you're going
UMu: to see one of the members is a
Umu: cyborg and this
Umu: represents kind of how she's dealing with being in the group right now because she's actually from hong kong and not fluent in korean
Umu: so just kind of like how she's struggling to fit in currently in
umu: The group she is struggling to fit in as a cyborg in the music video Kevin: okay Kahnh: five four three two Kevin: love and live
Davis: Live and let love, like Paul mccartney or something, sorry haha
Peyton: ah she's running Davis: same
Jarod: heavy breathing that's a little that's a little... idk Katie: me when I run oh... oh....
Katie: there are two types of people Jarod: they showed a track there it's rather o-
Naoki: oh nice nice riff on the piano there got some movement
Stephen: gotta love those synth strings Naoki: very jazzy
Emiel: this chord progression that's kind of cool
Gwen: oooh I like that synth in the back, this is some R&B
Rachel: It always is but they like Gwen: it's so good though rachel: the chord-
Rachel: I'm not even gonna say it gwen: the chords are so gooD
Kahn: okay, repeat at the a yeah Kevin: nice chromatic yeah
Gwen: very breathy voice
Rachel: but not this one Gwen: yeah, she's got of rachel: right here, oh. nasal resonance
Both: wowwwww
Kevin: B flat major to g major but yet it sounds higher that's so cool Kahn: yeah i know that's so cool
Emiel: this chord progression is really interesting like yeah really
Jarod: see as far as the chord progression goes i'm just hearing a lot of like chromatic and then like whole step like yeah
Jarod: just, like moving up and back down
Katie: So a lot of the modal mixture
Jarod: Except i think a lot of things are like oddly major i think that's what feels a little about it i think
Katie: this is a really tight group too
Henry: oh what Emiel: i've never heard something this harmonically complex HEnry: yes seriously this is like wack this is really out of
Henry: this is out of- Emiel: out of the normal yeah whoa that's the cyborg
Hnery: I think i found out which one's the cyborg Emiel: wow
ohhhh Steoh: that was nice
Gwen: but like one of them- like we commented- one of them has like an extremely bright nasal sound
Gwen: And then the person who sang before her was like
Gwen: breath-was like very air ..airy Rachel: yeah but together it probably makes like one rounded woah that was cool
Naoki: i'm liking all that high stuff Stephen: yeah
Stephen: no definitely Naoki: that's one of their strong points
Lindsey: this is a weird chord progression it just kind of like
Lindsey: Wanders Emiel: this makes a lot of sense but it goes to a lot of different places which is like really cool
Henry: that was so whack that was so out, what the h*ll
Henry: you thought it was gonna go one place but it just like totally totally changed
Jarod: I like that rhythm it's like
me too
Lindsey: I was trying to listen to see like if anything interesting happens but it's just the fact that it doesn't go where you think it's going
Lindsey: To but it's not, even that obvious unless you're listening or it's just like a little off
Gwen: this is a very different vibe than the first one rachel: yeah it's also very straightforward like melodically...kinda same
Gwen: it's got like cool little additions
Gwen: But it's like i don't know it's not as unexpected as the other one Davis: I wanna do a harmonic dictation of this baseline
Davis: it's like it sounds really easy and like i mean like it follows it a lot of like paradigms like in
Davis: Normal western counterpoint
Both: ohhhhh
Kevin: oh I thought she would collapse oh is that her rest mode as a cyborg just
Kahn: taking a poop KEvin: oh
HEnry: wow that was really weird and really really Emiel: that was cool though
umu: so what do you guys think about that overall musically Lindsey: it just it was a trip
Fiona: it was wandering it was just like a nature trail at a
Fiona: State park or a national park you just like LIndsey: you like keep thinking that you're gonna like get back to where you started
Lindsey: but then you never quite get there like you passed by things that look similar
Fiona: like oh it's that water fall again Lindsey: but you're walking and you realize that you're not were
linsdey: the universe is everywhere fiona: but it's fine --- kpop
Jarod: i liked it because i didn't understand it you know like actually i'll be taking a class on pop music and
Jarod: like the style of things will be interesting to see cuz they use you know like
Jarod: non-traditional stuff like like i'm like
Jarod: i remember like last week we were talking about the whole major 4 - minor 4 like stuff that you don't usually see
Jarod: in Classical music but yet it sounds so cool i feel like they did a lot of that like i didn't understand it but
Jarod: it sounded awesome and it was definitely a lot going on Naoki: there were some really interesting chords which really
Naoki: like i don't know made it come to life in a way that like other songs don't
Naoki: it was pretty
Naoki: safe like structurally like pretty ordinary structurally
Naoki: melody had some really good moments but like i felt like chord choices and harmonies we're really effective for what the song was trying
Naoki: To accomplish Stephen: yeah i mean i definitely second that i really the harmonic choices it's not like
Stephen: generic kind of
Stephen: diatonic pop music even though like you know like the melody is really nice - relatable and singable there's like some really nice like
STephen: especially at the bridge or i right before for the last chorus where they like
Stephen: had hits and It was really crunchy yeah Umu: yeah compared to the other one musically like what were the differences what different feelings to think GWen: i think they
Gwen: was the you said the love and live was the first one released? i think they probably went more of a
Gwen: more mainstream sound with that and then kind of use that to springboard into kind of a more specific type of tone like obviously
Gwen: With this whole marketing scheme they're trying to be like unique and kind of like a new thing on the scene and i think that's probably why?
Gwen: they are kind of evolving into a kind of a unique
Gwen: different sound i liked it Rachel: and i also like the aspect that it could be like what's our sound gonna be
Rachel: because the second one was like kind of the other end of the spectrum
Rachel: but like it was a ballad and this is like not and it was just like very complex
Henry: i missed their vocal texture that's what i really liked about them last time this was a little bit more pop song
HEnry: You, know which i mean like i get it like they're they're pop group but also like at the same time i kind of missed
Henry: That from last time KEvin: i think sonatine was more adventurous more different it's Kahn: i i can't really
Kahn: say which one i liked more
Kahn: but definitely objectively
KEvin: yes
Kahn: sonatine was more adventurous KEvin: yeah i like how catchy this was i mean it was a good song and Kahn: one of one of my friends
Kahn: is a jazz musician has always
Kahn: lived by the mantra
Kahn: you
Kahn: know music is for people to enjoy like we shouldn't expect the audience to have to put in extra work
Kahn: You know to enjoy a piece like if the audience wants to put in extra work to enjoy it then then
Kahn: you know good on them
Kahn: this piece it's got i i really like the the market value of this cuz it's got it all its for us music nerds and
Kahn: we're looking for a little bit of extra spice it's got a little bit extra spice in there but but
Kahn: For for people who want something nice and plain and simple the form is really easy to follow it's got a super catchy tune
Kahn: You, know KEvin: you and i more like a swoon cuz i'm swoon
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