last year AMD's risin really turned the PC on its head and this year you can
think of risin 2nd generation as a bionic CPU it's better it's faster it's
stronger so how do AMD make it second generation chip better well one it's on
a new 12 nanometers process and the company has gone in and taking all those
rough edges on the first generation part and sanded them all off this ship simply
runs faster higher clock speeds lower Layton sees it all adds up she's just
generally better performance don't believe me I took a 2700 X and compared
it to last year's risin 7 1700 X as well as a core i7 8700 K yes Intel's current
top of the top-of-the-line consumer chip all of them have the latest version of
Windows and yes all of them are running with meltdown inspector fixes in place
that means Intel takes a small four to five percent haircut on all performance
benchmarks up first Cinebench r15 in raid is last year's 1700 X in green this
year's 2700 X and blue that six core not competing with the eight core chips you
can see that green is mean and in charge and that story pretty much runs the
gamut for all multi-threaded apps again compression performance look at that
great big green bar Intel with six cores just is not in the running even the 1700
X with this eight cores is well ahead of that Intel part moving on a blender
another running program the shorter bars are better and guess what the green bar
is shorter again AMD's lower latency and higher clocks
are just paying off dividends that's 1700 X though interesting not really
doing that well against a six core chip even though it has eight cores here we
are in handbrake again Green is better and no surprise
Rison 7 second gen temperature decks in front six core blue
just can't keep up but check it out again that eight core 1700 X with it's
generally low clock speeds is kind of close to that Intel coffee lake ship
that's not really looking good but the good news is rise in second generation
in front of Ray green well in front red with its lower clock speeds again
remember second gen rising just is gonna run at higher clock speeds than the
first gen could ever dream of both of them still well ahead of that six core
coffee late show our last chart though is Cinebench using one single thread as
you can guess the chip at the highest o'clock is gonna win and coffee lake is
well in front on a single thread that ship can hit 4.7 gigahertz versus the
4.3 gigahertz of the rise in second gen part there in front and again the lower
clock speeds of that first generation rise in 1700 not looking so great for
single threaded apps Intel still has a really good lead for performance which
is going to affect a lot of games our first result is Rainbow six siege you
can see that coffee leg chip with its high clocks is in front with this higher
IPC and higher clocks it's pretty tough for a risin to compete the good news is
reisen's not that far behind last year when rising came out there was a lot of
head-scratching a lot of hand-wringing why is it 20% even 30% slower than Intel
and a lot of benchmarks when it was so much faster in all the applications a
year later with a newer chip newer bios's more optimized games everything
adding up to basically a faster rise in part means instead of being 20 or even
30 percent slower we're actually really close and again we're running Rainbow
six siege at 19 by 10 and we're all them are well up over 200 frames a second as
much as coffee lake is in front it's not in front by that
but still being in front means being in front
we ran far cry 5 brand new ultra quality taa and blur on coffee lake again in
front decent performance lead but look at that in green and a hundred and six
frames a second versus 115 19 by 10 ultra quality you're not gonna notice it
it's actually really close moving out of middle-earth shadows of Mordor 19 by 10
ultra quality again Intel in front but not by a lot look at that 156 frames a
second versus 164 I don't know about you but that's really not a deal-breaker for
me this next slide is a here on purpose its rise of the Tomb Raider dx12 medium
quality which is a very low quality 19 by 10 Intel a solidly ahead but risin
even first-gen risin not that bad the reason I'm bringing up this is last year
the Rison one probably would have been 20% slower a lot of things have really
helped yet both rise ins up a lot closer to core i7 in gaming performance but
it's not all bad news for rising in gaming check this out
ashes of the singularity escalation dips 12 crazy mode CPU focused because we
want to know how the CPU is impacting the game performance 27 good X right
there with 8700 K they're basically dead on tied with each other that situation
wasn't the same last year Deus Ex mankind divided dicks 12 1080p DirectX
12 ultra quality BAM green is in front in fact even red is in front we are
seeing a very decent performance increase from the rise in parts in Deus
Ex over even the mighty 8700 K part and our last slide here is rise of the Tomb
Raider we're back again to this because I just want to show you dicks 12 mode
1080p you said it - very high and we're just dead even
rise in 1700 rise in 2700 Coffee Lake 87 okay the performance is just about dead
even that just goes to show you that at resolutions you actually play at it
really doesn't matter that much and that's only 1080p once you get up to
1440p 1600 P or 4k it really doesn't matter that much if you have an 87 or K
or a 2700 X they're just gonna be the same
besides the latency decrease one of the big reasons
AMD says they're getting all this performance is of course clock speed the
original risin 1 which as amazing as it was for the money was a pretty rough
part if you ran 2 or 3 threads or 4 threads it would fall off its boost
speed and it wasn't really performing that great this new generation ship is
just much better at holding higher clock speeds to test that I ran Cinebench
using one thread all the way up to 16 threads here are the results but a
little hard to interpret there isn't really the correct scale here so I
actually went ahead and figured out the percentage difference and again this is
a risin 1700 X versus a horizon 2700 X at 1 thread we're looking at 17% two
threads 23 3/3 xx basically for the most part you're getting 16 to 20 percent
performance boost from a risin 7 2700 X verses horizon 7
1700 X again 16 to 20 percent that is a huge increase for generation on
generation in CPUs but this really isn't about risin 7 1700 X versus rise in 7
2700 X this is really about risin 7 27 X versus the mighty core i7 8700 K we did
the same thing in sin bench from 1 to 16 threads and here are the results but
again it's really hard to see the scale so again I
go ahead and figured out the percentage increase and bam this is still the story
that we are seeing with Intel's chips versus Rison even the newest risin you
can see down here at the low end where we have light loads from 1 to 6 threads
intel has it you know very decent double-digit advantage you know a single
thread where it's running out of 3.7 gigahertz 14% difference that's pretty
big but once you get up to about 7 threads which is here it's pretty much a
tie and here's where risin 7 2,700 X pays off 8% 8% 9% 15% and once you get
to heavy loads look at that so basically if you live down here I've been saying
this if you live down here all of your games all your applications are down
here it's not a bad idea to think about 8,700 k if you don't care about price
we're gonna get into that later but if you really do rendering encoding
streaming games well playing games and you need more cores it's really hard to
say no I mean that is a lot of performance you're leaving behind if you
go with an 8700 K one last thing I didn't talk about was overclocking I'm
generally against trying to pass judgment on an entire series of chips
from very early CPUs I will say AMD claims and we have done demos where we
did it ourselves that this chip should easily for the most part not everyone
will do it should for the most part hit low fours 4.2 gigahertz being the point
a lot of people who do want to overclock should hit that's a good improvement
over their previous rising which as we know was kind of a mixed bag a lot of
them overclocked decently into the high threes but there is generally a speed of
light wall at 4 gigahertz this new one definitely gets above that and part of
that also comes to the attention AMD is paid to overclock e performance on the
screen you can see the brand-new rise in master that comes with
The Horizon second-generation parts one thing that you should notice is this
star that star means that is the best core on that CCX the circle is the
second-best course so if you're gonna overclock try to overclock those the
other tube you can just ignore them and its per CC attitude this is the first CC
X on the second CC x AMD also identifies a star for the best student in class the
second best student in class with the circle and sitting in the back row is
the CPU and this CPU core but the real secret weapon here is the included
coolers last year with a 1800 X and 1700 X even though there were 400 and 500
dollars you didn't get a cooler Angie says hey you're gonna go out and buy
your own so you don't need ours to go into landfill apparently a lot of people
said Andy we really like your Wraith coolers so please give it to us so this
year every single X processor includes a cooler at the top end though the 2700 X
gets a doozy of a cooler it's the brand new wraith prism it's rated for 124 watt
TDP on the high setting and 116 watts on the low setting and what makes it better
of course are the lights you get as our video shows you get a fan that changes
color a fan shroud that changes color and the logo that changes color you can
change them all in three zones using a free utility or also just plug it into
your motherboard and have it run all the zones I know you think you don't care
about the cooler but Intel's Core i7 8700 K is 362 370 dollars on the street
no cooler included that means you buy this top end consumer chip and then you
have to go out and buy a 30 or 50 dollar cooler just to run it with Rison 720 700
X you're getting a high-end cooler decently high
you can still go higher and of course for three hundred and thirty bucks so
you're looking at an eighty seven hundred K within another maybe fifty
bucks on top of it pushing you into the low 400s versus a rise in second gen8
courtship two more cores for almost a hundred dollars less you get all the
application performance if you do your 3d rendering your video editing if
you're doing streaming and playing games and you're getting damn near the same
single-threaded low thread count performance as that
eighty seven hundred K I don't know about you but I'd have a hard time
saying no to all that performance on multi-threaded apps and damn near pretty
close performance on low threaded apps and it's cheaper last year Intel had
some wiggle room with all that low threaded performance against first
generation rising this year though with second generation rising performing as
it does on the low-end and B is pretty much close the door on core i7 for now
for our for view second generation risin head on over to PC WorldCom