- 'Sup, you beautiful bastards,
hope you're having a fantastic Monday,
welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show
and let's just jump into it.
Now, the first thing we're gonna talk about today
is this story and controversy coming out of Detroit.
There's this music festival coming up called AfroFuture Fest
and the reason the spotlight fell on them
is that reportedly they are charging
white people a premium to attend.
The festival is reportedly taking place
in a historically black Detroit neighborhood
and according to one of the event's organizers on Twitter
"Often times when dope events happen in Detroit
"the cheapest tickets are bought and then sold
"by people not from the community
"because they can afford them first,
"leaving higher price tickets as the only options left.
"Black and brown people deserve access
"to quality events in their city
"and it isn't fair when events happen in their city
"that they don't have a chance of being a part of
"because people who don't look like us take advantage
"and also have more access to collective wealth.
And so what we ended up seeing, reportedly,
you had early-bird tickets before July 17th
costing $10 for people of color
and $20 for white people
and then tickets purchased after that would jump
to $20 for people of color and $40 for white people.
Now of course, as you might expect,
there was a lot of controversy
after this news got out there.
You have people saying this is disgusting,
some calling it racist or bigoted.
But also you had people supporting the move,
others noting that this isn't the first time
we've something similar,
some pointing to a chef that actually turned his meals
into somewhat of a performance art.
People of color paid $12 dollars and white people paid $30
with the extra money being redistributed to people of color.
Although I think it is important to note there
with this meal kind, this performance art,
it ended up being an option.
White diners would get a choice,
they could do the 12 or the 30
or they could just cancel their order.
And so there is technically a difference there
and I mention that one just because
the argument's been out there.
But also two, on Sunday Eventbrite,
where people could purchase these tickets,
the company reportedly threatened to pull
the festival's listing.
With an Eventbrite spokesperson reportedly saying,
"We do not permit events that require attendees
"to pay different prices
"based on their protected characteristics
"such as race or ethnicity.
"When we became aware of the violation with AfroFuture Fest
"we notified the creator of the event and requested
"that they alter their ticket pricing accordingly.
"We also let them know that if they did not comply
"we would remove the event completely from our site.
We've also now learned that a Detroit-based rapper
by the name of Tiny Jag has pulled out of the festival.
Jag, who's real name is Jillian Graham,
said that a friend sent her a screenshot
of the difference in price and quote
"I was immediately enraged just because I am biracial.
"I have family members that would have,
"under those circumstances, been subjected to something
"that I would not ever want them to be in,
"especially not because of anything that I have going on."
Ultimately that's where we are with this right now
and as far as my opinion on this,
I personally think that the way they went about this
is extremely stupid.
I think if you're going to stick with doing something
based around race you do it in the way
that the chef did, it is a choice.
You still obviously are gonna have people
that do not like that,
they're bothered by even that situation
being thrust in their face
when they just wanted to go and support something.
Also, a part of this pricing strategy
was so that locals got to experience something.
That feels like something that can be tackled
in an easier way, like a proof of residency or rental.
Just have people show you their ID,
where does it say that they live, are they local?
Hell, I mean, if it's such a small event
people could bring their electricity bill
to prove they live in the area.
And also, pun kind of intended,
you create this situation that isn't just black and white.
It feels like for the Tiny Jags in the world
you create the situation where you end up being the decider
if someone is black enough for not.
And understand, I'm saying this as someone that will be
one of the first people to agree
that we are not born into this world
all on an equal playing field.
That statistically in general as life continues
we are not all afforded the same opportunities.
This does not in any way
feel like the right way to go about it.
Once again though, I understand that that's my opinion
based off what I've seen in the world
and people that I've talked to,
my personal life experiences.
But hey, I pass the question off to you,
what are your thoughts around all of this?
And actually a new update to this story.
The organizers announced on Twitter,
"AFroFuture Fest has changed our ticketing model
"to $20 General Admission and suggested donation
"for non people of color."
As far as the reason for this change,
they said it was quote, "for the safety of our community,
"family, elders, who received threats
"from white supremacists
"and youth who were subjected to seeing
"racist comments on our Instagram page."
So there's that but of course,
I still pass the question off to you,
what are your thoughts around all of this?
Then I wanna give a shout out to our BAMF of the day,
internet and YouTube's own Doctor Mike.
The news has come out
that he saved a mans life on a flight to Israel.
There's a man on his flight
that went into anaphylactic shock,
his hands were swelling, his throat began to close.
Flight attendants reportedly asked
if there was a physician aboard, Doctor Mike stood up.
Reportedly there wasn't an EpiPen on board
but luckily there was a first aid kit on board
that had epinephrine and a large needle.
Doctor Mike dosed it out, which is incredibly important
because if you dose it wrong you can kill the guy.
He administered the epinephrine,
he monitored the man every 30 minutes until they landed.
He's alive and Doctor Mike looks like a hero
because, you know, he obviously looks like a man
who is in need of things that make him more attractive.
So big props to Doctor Mike, you are our BAMF of the day.
Also with this story, I learned that if you are bitten
by a lone star tick it can then make you
allergic to red meat and according to the report
the man had eaten red meat the night before the flight,
the physicians believe this led
to a delayed allergic reaction.
So there you go, now you know that,
throw that out at a party
which it'll make you seem interesting, not weird.
People love it when you drop random tick facts.
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And the first bit of awesome is kind of a self shout out
slash reminder if you missed it in the July 4th weekend.
I have now officially relaunched
the A Conversation With podcast.
On Friday I uploaded the podcast of the relaunch
with my guest, my wife, it was really fun.
Based on the comments, it was enjoyed.
So if you haven't seen it I highly recommend it
and also if you have seen it
I was getting a lot of questions
and I should probably added a shout out
or a notification at the top of the video.
If you'd rather just listen to an audio version
you can listen to it on iTunes, Spotify, Anchor,
I'll include those links down below
just like I did in that video.
Which also, side note, we don't usually advertise this,
the Philip DeFranco Show is available
in audio form on iTunes as well, I'll link to it down below.
Then we got Stranger Things Truth or Dab.
We have Gus Johnson giving us moms in horror movies.
We got the official teasers for Disney's Mulan.
We got the season four trailer for Queer Eye.
A little known YouTuber by the name of JablinskiGames
gave us his bottle cap challenge,
and a final bit of awesome,
I just wanna give a quick shout out to everyone
I met at RTX this weekend.
I think it became by far my favorite convention,
it was exactly what I was needing.
Yeah, I guess if I'm still around next year
maybe I'll see you there.
And if you wanna see the full versions
of everything I just shared, the secret link of the day,
really, anything at all,
links as always are in the description down below.
And then let's talk about the World Cup, women's soccer,
and something that the crowd started chanting
after the US women's national team
won their fourth World Cup yesterday.
- [Crowd] Equal pay, equal pay, equal pay!
- Now this discussion of equal pay
has long been a conversation
when it comes to women's soccer,
especially since the US women's team
consistently outperforms the men's team,
which has never won a World Cup.
And in fact, this is such a big issue that back in March
members of the women's team,
including Alex Morgan and Rose Lavelle,
filed a lawsuit against the United States Soccer Federation.
And in that they claim that they are being paid less
due to their gender, saying in the lawsuit,
"Despite the fact that these female and male players
"are called upon to perform
"the same job responsibilities on their teams
"and participate in international competitions
"for their single common employer, the USSF,
"the female players have been consistently paid less money
"than their mail counterparts.
"This is true even though their performance
"has been superior to that of the a male players,
"with the female players, in contrast to male players,
"becoming world champions."
We've also seen individual players
like Megan Rapinoe issuing statements.
ESPN reporting that after this last game she said, quote,
"it's time to sit down with everyone and really get to work.
"This game has done so much for all of us,
"we've put so much into it.
"I think it's a testament to the quality on the field
"and I don't think everything else is matching that.
"So how do we get everything to match up
"and continue to push this forward?
"Because I think the argument
"we have been having is null and void."
And for those wondering how big, how severe is this pay gap,
it's kind of complicated.
And is say that because there's not a perfect
one-to-one comparison.
The men and women salaries are paid on a different basis
and the USSF makes a lot of money from sponsorships,
which are bundled.
But we're still gonna try our best
and compare the things that we can.
As far as the World Cup is concerned,
last year the men's prize was $400 million
which broke down to about $38 million for the champions.
Whereas the women's prize this year
was a total of $30 million
which gives about $4 million to the champions.
So obviously there the earning potential
for the men is far, far, far greater
but it's also important to understand
that there are two things happening here,
there is the pay structure of the World Cup
and then there is also how U.S. Soccer
pays out men and women on the national teams.
Last week we saw several members of Congress
writing a letter to the USSF president
calling the pay gap indefensible and adding,
"U.S. Soccer Federation should work to correct course
"and close the wage gap so that the only thing
"women athletes are fighting for
"is the world title or a gold medal.
"Instead, the message sent to women and girls
is that their skills and accomplishments
are of lesser value."
Also reportedly yesterday President Donald Trump
was asked if he thought that women should get paid more
and according to a White House press pool he responded,
"I would like to see that
"but you've also got to look at the numbers.
"You have to look at who's taking in what."
And so of course around there
there have been a lot of people looking into those numbers.
And according to a report from the Wall Street Journal
in recent years the women's team
boosted more revenue than the men.
Their report specifically looking at
audited USSF financial statements
and it said that between 2016 and 2018
women's games generated about $50.8 million in revenue
while the men's generated 49.9 million.
The Washington Post also broke down
some of the finances between male and female teams.
They looked at the net revenue of each time
finding that in 2016 and 2017
the women's net revenue was eight million
and then one million
while in 2015 and 2015 the men's
was 350,000 and 2.7 million.
And so when you combine those numbers
you had the women beating the men by about six million.
It also notes that while last year
the women made more in bonuses and salary
they played close to twice as many games and won more often.
And so to kind of draw a cleaner comparison
it then outlines a scenario that shows
if both teams were to play 20 games in a season.
And as of right now the women would actually make
89% of what the men would make.
Which while not even is significantly better
for the women than before 2016
because the women then would've only made 38%
of what the men made.
But a new bargaining agreement in 2016
has since changed that.
We've also had others pointing
to there feats that the women hold over the men,
like the fact that the US Women's home jersey
has become the most sold soccer jersey
on Nike's website in one season.
Also as far as World Cup prizes,
FIFA said that the women's prize
would be doubled to 60 million by 2023.
So of course that's significantly more than now
but still a fraction of the men's prize
which is also set to get boosted to 440 million.
You know, with this story,
I know that we kind of bounced back and forth
but I think it's important to understand
we're kinda talking about two different issues here.
It is related to the same thing
but it is notably two different things.
Obviously when we're talking about World Cup earnings
it is a more international issue, right,
it involves not just US viewership,
it involves international viewership.
And internationally there is a difference
and how popular the game is depending on gender.
And then the other more focused thing
is the US Women's national team
versus the Men's national team.
And here it feels like there's really no doubt
that the US Women's national team
just does better then the Men's national team,
and I'm not saying like one-to-one skill,
I'm not making that argument.
In my eyes ultimately what you're talking about is business.
Right, women in the WNBA make less than men in the NBA
and there are a number of factors there
but one of the key things is who is paying attention,
how many people are going to the games,
how many people are watching?
Around that now you have women's games
generating more revenue than men.
You have U.S. Soccer bundling the broadcasting rights
and sponsorships for both national teams
so it's hard to understand who gets the most value there
although according to U.S. Soccer
TV ratings for US men's games
tend to be higher than those for US women's games.
Although I will note there, and once again
I know that we're bouncing between the two.
This year we saw headlines like, Women's World Cup Final
draws bigger audience than 2018 Men's Final.
Obviously that US specific, we're talking about a World Cup
and not just a friendly.
And the fact that the pay structure
between the men's and the women's teams are so different,
what with the women getting a base salary,
the men not but getting higher bonuses.
It ends up creating this weird confusing situation
which also lends itself to allowing people
to kind of push whatever narrative they want.
Which is also why part of this lawsuit
gave us some transparency in the difference of how popular
or how much money is coming in thanks to men and women
for broadcasting rights, the sponsorship.
That would be helpful, but ultimately we are
where we are today so with that
I will pass the question off to you,
what are your thoughts on this issue?
And that's where I'm going to end today's show.
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