FORMER
FORMER DALLAS MAYOR MIKE ROLLINGS.
ROLLINGS.
ROLLINGS. A TEXAS DEMOCRAT IS PLAYING A
PROMINENT ROLE IN PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.
CONGRESSWOMAN SYLVIA GARCIA IS
ONE OF THE SO-CALLED
IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS.
IMPEACHMENT MANAGERS. HE IS HELPING PRESENT THE CASE
AGAINST THE PRESIDENT IN THE
SENATE.
SENATE.
SENATE. IN STUDIO THIS MORNING IS ONE
OF HER COLLEAGUES IN THE TEXAS
DELEGATION, A FORT WORTH
DEMOCRAT, AND JOINING THE
QUESTION AS ALWAYS IS THE FORT
WORTH "STAR-TELEGRAM."
WORTH "STAR-TELEGRAM." WE HAVE A LOT OF FORT WORTH
REPRESENTATIVES.
REPRESENTATIVES. >> THANK YOU, GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.
IMPEACHMENT TRIAL. DEMOCRATS DON'T HAVE ENOUGH
VOTE INS THE SENATE FOR A
CONVICTION.
CONVICTION. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> TO GET THE PRESIDENT THROWN
OUT OF OFFICE.
WHAT IS THE BEST THAT THE PARTY
CAN HOPE FOR?
>> WHAT WOULD A WIN LOOK LIKE
TO DEMOCRAT ?
>> AND, OF COURSE, MITCH
MCCONNELL IS NOT GOING TO DO
THE RIGHT THING.
THAT HAS BEEN CLEAR.
HE HAS SIGNALED VERY EARLY ON
DURING THE PROCESS THAT HE WAS
GOING TO WORK WITH THE WHITE
HOUSE.
HOUSE.
HOUSE. INSTEAD OF RUNNING AN IMPARTIAL
TRIAL HE SAID HE WILL BE
WORKING WITH THE WHITE HOUSE ON
THE TRIAL.
THE TRIAL. >> HAND IN HAND I THINK HE
SAID.
SAID.
SAID. >>
SAID. >> IN COORDINATION.
BUT, IN MY OPINION, I THINK AND
STILL BELIEVE TODAY THAT IT WAS
NECESSARY THAT WE PRESENTED
THIS CASE TO THE AMERICAN
PUBLIC SO PEOPLE CAN SEE
EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED, SO
PEOPLE CAN SEE PRESIDENT TRUMP
IS A CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER
TO OUR DEMOCRACY, THAT HE DID
VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION.
HE VIOLATED THE OATH THAT HE
TOOK WHEN HE DECIDED THAT HE
WAS GOING TO TRADE FAVORS WITH
THE UKRAINIANS.
THE UKRAINIANS. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE RIGHT
THING.
THING.
THING. >>
THING. >> AND IS THERE A WAY FOR
DEMOCRATS TO SCORE A WIN AT
ALL?
ALL?
ALL? THE
ALL? THE SENATE TRIAL?
>> WELL, YOU KNOW, I WOULD HOPE
THAT SENATORS THAT COME FROM
STATES THAT ARE PURPLE OR
SENATORS THAT REALLY WANT TO BE
SEEN AS TRUE LEADERS WOULD STEP
UP TO THE PLATE.
I MEAN, YOU LOOK AT ARIZONA,
FOR INSTANCE.
FOR INSTANCE. I ASKED YESTERDAY WHAT -- IF
NEW EVIDENCE WAS PRESENTED TO
HER, WOULD SHE WILL BE -- BE
WILLING TO LOOK AT IT AND SHE
CALLED A REPORTER A PARTISAN
HACK INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT THIS
OBJECTIVELY.
OBJECTIVELY. IF A MESSAGE IS SENT IN 2020
THAT WE WANT PEOPLE TO BE
OBJECTIVE WHEN IT COMES TO THE
SECURITY OF THE UNITED STATES
AND SOMEONE, INCLUDING THE
PRESIDENT, UNDERMINING OUR
CONSTITUTION, THAT THEY NEED TO
TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY AND NOT
JUST BE ON WHATEVER SIDE THEY
THINK IS RIGHT POLITICALLY.
>> I DO WANT TO ASK ABOUT ONE
OTHER THING, PRESIDENT TRUMP
HIRED KEN STARR AND ALAN
DERSHOWITZ ON HIS LEGAL TEAM.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WHAT DO YOU READ INTO THAT?
ANYTHING?
ANYTHING?
ANYTHING? >> NO.
>> NO.
>> NO. YOU KNOW, OF COURSE, ALAN
DERSHOWITZ IS -- ANYTIME THAT
HE SEES, YOU KNOW, A CAMERA, HE
IS GOING TO JUMP FOR IT.
I THINK THAT IS PRETTY OBVIOUS.
>> AND THE O.J.
SIMPSON FAME AMONG OTHER CASES,
TOO.
TOO.
TOO. >>
TOO. >> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT.
>> RIGHT. >> WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP ON
THIS?
THIS?
THIS? WHEN YOU COME BACK, ARE WE
GOING TO HAVE A WHOLE YEAR OF
DEMOCRATS BRINGING UP NEW
CHARGES?
CHARGES?
CHARGES? THE HOUSE?
THE HOUSE? WHERE DO THE DEMOCRATS GO THIS
ELECTION YEAR?
ELECTION YEAR? >> I DO THINK SOME OF THE NEW
CHARGES THAT YOU PROBABLY READ
ABOUT, I THINK THEY'RE VERY
SERIOUS AND CREDIBLE.
AGAIN, MY WHOLE --
>> SO THEY WILL HAVE MORE?
>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT DIRECTION
WE'RE GOING TO GO.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY WHEN WE GET
BACK AFTER THE RECESS THAT
WE'RE GOING TO BE ON, WE'LL
TALK WITH THE SPEAKER AND WE'LL
HAVE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS
DISCUSSIONS ON WHICH WAY WE
SHOULD GO.
SHOULD GO. BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT I
THINK THAT A LOT OF THE NEW
CHARGES ARE VERY SERIOUS.
YOU KNOW, I STILL THINK TAKE WE
NEED TO HEAR FROM BOLTON, AND
NOT ONLY THAT, YOU KNOW, JUST,
AGAIN, JUST SOME OF THE THINGS
THAT WE CONTINUE TO LEARN IN
SOME OF "THE NEW YORK TIMES"
ARTICLES ABOUT AN AMBASSADOR
POSSIBLY BEING FOLLOWED, JUST
DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE THAT THAT
CONTINUE TO COME UP.
I REALLY DO BELIEVE THAT THE
AMERICAN PEOPLE NEEDS TO KNOW
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT.
ABOUT IT. AND -- IN ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
>> LET'S TALK 2020 FOR A
MOMENT.
MOMENT.
MOMENT. IT IS A FOUR-WAY RACE IN IOWA,
BERNIE HAS PULLED AHEAD
SLIGHTLY OF JOE BIDEN, PETE
BUTTIGIEG AND WARREN ARE CLOSE
AS WELL TOO.
WHAT WOULD A WIN LOOK LIKE IN
TEXAS FORBIDDEN SINCE YOU CAME
OUT AND ENDORSED HIM?
>> I THINK THAT BIDDEN IS GOING
-- BIDEN IS GOING TO DO VERY
WELL IN TEXAS.
I THINK IT DEPENDS UPON WHAT
CART PART OF THE COUNTRY YOU'RE
IN.
IN.
IN. THE
IN. THE MAJORITY OF HISPANIC AND
AFRICAN-AMERICAN, SO THE PEOPLE
THAT I TALKED TO ON A DAILY
BASIS WHEN I'M BACK IN THE
DISTRICT ARE TELLING ME THEY'RE
FORBIDDEN AND THAT THEY WANTED
TO BRING SOME NORMALCY BACK,
AND THAT MORE THAN ANYTHING
ELSE, THAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM
IS BEATING TRUMP.
>> IS IT SECOND OR A THIRD
PLACE WIN FORBIDDEN IN TEXAS,
WOULD THAT BE CONSIDERED A WIN?
>> I THINK BIDEN IS GOING TO
WIN TEXAS.
WIN TEXAS. I DON'T THINK HE IS GOING TO BE
SECOND AND THIRD.
TEXAS AIN'T IOWA.
>> LET'S TALK ABOUT THE
QUESTION OF THE WEEK LAST WEEK
DO YOU THINK THAT A WOMAN COULD
BEAT DONALD TRUMP?
>> OH, YES.
DEFINITELY.
DEFINITELY. WE HAVE SOME TREMENDOUS TALENT
THAT ARE WOMEN ON THE
DEMOCRATIC SIDE OF THE TICKET
THAT ARE VERY WELL VERSED ON
THINGS LIKE FOREIGN AFFAIRS AND
NATIONAL SECURITY, ECONOMY, AND
SO ABSOLUTELY, I THINK THAT A
WOMAN COULD BEAT DONALD TRUMP.
>> AND CONGRESSMAN, USMC A.
JUST PASSED.
JUST PASSED. THE NEW TRADE DEAL REPLACES
NAFTA.
NAFTA.
NAFTA. HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT
YOUR DISTRICT?
YOUR DISTRICT? >> I THINK IT IS GOING TO BE
GREAT.
GREAT.
GREAT. >>
GREAT. >> ANY SPECIFIC INVESTMENTS TO
BE MADE?
BE MADE?
BE MADE? >> I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO
CONTINUE, ESPECIALLY WITH T'S
TEXT AND P.M.
P.M., OBVIOUSLY BEING SUCH
LARGE TRADING PARTNERS.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE UNITED
STATES AND MEXICO, AND WITH
TEXAS, WITH US BEING A BORDER
STATE AND A BORDER STATE THAT
IS DOING WELL ECONOMICALLY,
WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE ONE
OF THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARIES,
AND SO THAT WILL BE HUGE.
WHAT REALLY EXCITES ME ABOUT
THIS NEW DEAL IS WE HAVE
ENFORCEMENT HERE.
ENFORCEMENT HERE. DONALD TRUMP WAS READY TO SIGN
A DEAL THIS WAS WILLING TO
BASICALLY GIVE AWAY THE RIGHT
TO WORKERS ALL ACROSS THE
COUNTRY, BUT SPEAKER PELOSI AND
THE DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE, WE
STOOD STRONG AND WE SAID WE'RE
NOT GOING TO HAVE A DEAL UNLESS
THERE IS STRONG ENFORCEMENT
PROVISIONS IN THERE.
SO I'M GLAD WE HAVE A GOOD NEW
U.S. M.C.
U.S. M.C.
U.S. M.C. A. THAT IS GOING TO PROTECT
AMERICAN WORKERS AND KEEP OUR
ECONOMY STRONG.
ECONOMY STRONG. >> AND EVERYONE WORK TOGETHER
ON THAT.
ON THAT.
ON THAT. WE HAVE ABOUT 30 SECONDS LEFT
HERE TOO.
HERE TOO.
HERE TOO. I WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT A LOT
OF TV COMMERCIALS.
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG.
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG. HOW MANY VOTES DO YOU THINK HE
MITE TAKE AWAY FROM JOE BIDEN
IN TEXAS?
IN TEXAS?
IN TEXAS? >> I DON'T THINK HE IS GOING TO
TAKE AWAY ANY VOTES FROM BIDEN.
ESPECIALLY WITH HIM BEING FROM
KNOCK, OBVIOUSLY SOP OF THE
OTHER NORTHEASTERN CANDIDATES,
I THINK PERHAPS SHOULD BE
CONCERNED ABOUT BLOOMBERG BEING
IN THE RACE.
>> BUT NOT BID SOMEONE.
>> I THINK BIDEN IS GOOD.
AGAIN, YOU KNOW, IOWA, NEW
HAMPSHIRE, TEXAS, YOU KNOW,
THEY'RE ALL COMPLETELY
DIFFERENT, PARTICULARLY TEXAS
VERSUS THE O'TWO.
>> CONGRESSMAN, GOOD TO SEE