Radhe: What is Medicine Wheel? Sadhguru: It is a
calendar (Overlapping conversation). Radhe: We went remember?
Sadhguru: Grand ti…Yeah, Grand Teton also. I don’t know if you saw… remember the bear… the bears and
the you know, baby bears (Laughs)… Radhe: Yes.
Sadhguru: …were all there, yeah (Laughs). Thirty to sixty million buffalo was ranging
on the land. Radhe: Wow.
Sadhguru: Looks like, I thought this is a miniature rhinoceros, it came off from
somewhere in the dark (Laughter). Sadhguru: Okay enough, do it now.
Chuck, chuck, chuck (Radhe laughs). Radhe: Okay (Laughs). So you went to Effigy
Mounds? All the different animals I heard… I saw. Sadhguru: Oh, the Effigy Mounds over, from there
we went to the Medicine Wheel on top of the mountain, one of the most spectacular rides
that you can think of, on the way to Yellow Stone. Then we came back.
Radhe: What is Medicine Wheel? Sadhguru: Ahh, Medicine Wheel is on top
of the mountain, it's more like a calendar, you know, a wheel with twenty-eight spokes.
Radhe: Oh, okay. Sadhguru: Well, it’s a… unfortunately,
it's very distorted now. But, you know, they put it on a place where there are no shadows, nothing,
where they could measure the moon’s rise and moon’s setting and also maybe sunrise, sunset.
Also, probably for solstice, you know solstice and equinox is very important
in the Native American culture. So they put up this on top of a flat piece of
mountain top, you know, like nothing else, right on the top. Some nearly 10,000 plus feet above the
sea level. So we went up, a lot of riding and then (Laughs) you know, this huge motorcycle,
very hard to ride on the gravelly roads (Radhe laughs). So, we somehow went up and saw that and,
but the ride… (Overlapping conversation) Radhe: How do you ride up on gravel
roads with such a heavy motorcycle?
Sadhguru: That was just about three miles I think. Three, four miles but rest of it was a
spectacular ride absolutely. Incredible ride. Any motorcyclist’s dream, that kind of road.
Radhe: Then were you able to read the time or…? Sadhguru: No, no, it's all distorted. It's not a
watch, it is a calendar. Anyway, the moon rise was so absolutely… (Overlapping conversation)
Radhe: Oh, okay. Sadhguru: …miraculous yesterday. We were
just riding down and the moon was coming up, out of the mountains. Unbelievable, almost full moon,
today is full but yesterday was almost full. Today we are at the Crow Tribe Reservation.
So, we meeting some people there. Having a conversation with their…
one of their medicine man. And then seeing a very important battle, which is one of the most,
what to say, successful battles for the Native Americans, which was Little Bighorn battle,
where they killed General Custer who was aspiring to become the President of United States.
So we are visiting that and then having this conversation and then riding on towards Billings,
in Montana. Radhe:
What was that, that singular rock you sent photos of? I think you were there a few
days because over a couple of days you sent me photos from there (Overlapping conversation).
Sadhguru: That is Mato… Mato Tipila. Radhe: Mato Tipila.
Sadhguru: Unfortunately, they call it Devil’s Tower. It is a very unique,
you know, like a volcanic formation that something strange happened. It just came up and froze right
there. It didn't flow over. It's magma. But the Native American people believe it's an ancient
tree that was chopped off. It’s like a massive tree, a mamm… a mammoth tree because it very much
looks like a tree trunk. When you look at it, it definitely very much looks like a tree stump
you know, when trees are chopped, how it looks. It definitely looks like that. But you know, tree
of that size would have gone up what 3000 feet up into the sky, probably but that's not it. It's a
volcanic formation but incredibly powerful. I found some strange things about it. We spent
some time in the night. I'll be talking about it in the next couple of days, maybe hopefully.
Right now there's no time to sit and talk and record, so we’re gathering everything that we
can and we’ll go sit somewhere and record. So, Grand Teton Lake also we’re going through that.
Radhe: We went to Yellow Stone, so… Sadhguru: Yeah, we went to Grand Teton
also. I don't know if saw… you remember the bear… the bears and the, you know baby bears (Laughs)…
Radhe: Yes. Sadhguru: …were all there, yeah (Laughter).
Radhe: Yes, and just right there like not even… we were on the side of the
road and it was just like a few feet away. Sadhguru: There's another animal which came near
the house that day. I don't even know the animal’s name. It starts with “A.” You may know that.
It seems it spreads less… leprosy. But it looks like a tiny rhinoceros. It suddenly came off,
I was standing outside and I was taking a call. I was walking up and down and
on a call and I find these two animals just come out close to me. They're not even shy of coming,
wild animals. They’ll… they're like, you know, like raccoons, but with somewhat scaly, looks
like… I thought this is a miniature rhinoceros, it came off from somewhere in the dark (Laughs).
Radhe: Oh, an armadillo. Sadhguru: Ah, armadillo, that one.
Radhe: Armadillo, yeah. Sadhguru: It, it seems
it spreads… (Overlapping conversation) Radhe: Oh yeah, I think you told me this.
Sadhguru: (Laughs) It was quite funny. I've never seen that animal before.
Radhe: Oh, you saw the bison. Sadhguru: Yeah, yeah. We, we saw
the Bison… Buffalo Roundup it's called. About 1500 bisons, but I don't know it made me very sad. Such
glorious animals being treated like domesticated cows. I don't know, I didn't like it. The Governor
of South Dakota, she is a lady. She also rode along with the riders and all that stuff. Can you
believe this? At one time somewhere between thirty to sixty million buffalo was ranging on the land
and by the time they finished with it probably early… late nineteenth century I think, there were
only three-hundred-and-twenty-five left. Radhe:
There’s that very famous photograph you know of all the skulls
just piled one on top of the other. Sadhguru: I know, but can you imagine from
somewhere fifty, sixty million buffaloes to three-hundred-and-twenty-five,
just three-twenty-five. If they had killed them, there would be no bison left on the planet.