None of the people at the time of prophet Muhammad (Pbuh)
have accused him of doing something wrong.
Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) waited 3 years.
Why would he wait three year? [The Age.]
Why He (Pbuh) needed so many wives?
That's a good question.
Now let me ask you this question:
What is the age where you should marry a girl According to the Bible?
according to the law, [Yeah, please.] not to the bible,
in romania; I don't know in England, [sure.]
if you go to sleep with a girl under 16
You will face imprisonment. [16?], yeah.
Okay.
Why is that better than a law in the country that says 18?
Why should we pick 16 over 18 and why is that different than Philippines
says 11 or 13,
and Japan, which is 12?
Now my question is to You is this;
these ages on What basis are you picking?
well,
I believe in the countries, you mentioned laws they choose...
Do you know, why they make these laws? [I don't know]
Because the girls there
grow up physically and psychologically in a different way
where the girls do in your country.
That's number one.
Yeah.
Number two: It is a part of their culture something that they
are used to, is not something taboo.
But what people do, are judging their own culture when
on a culture that existed in a desert in Arabia 1400 years ago.
Do you know Aysha (Ra)
Was already engaged, [Of course, I know.]
before Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) does the contract with her.
Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) did not have marriage with her intercourse
until she was nine.
She was not six. [I know]
Okay, before he makes a contract with her.
Do you know she was engaged already with by someone else?
No, I don't know. Do you know one of his other wife which was called
Do you know one of his other wives was called
Safiyah (ra) married at the age of 10, not him someone else?
No, I didn't know.
That was how the culture was working at the time.
Now, unless we can show Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) harmed
Ayesha (ra) in any way shape or form,
we are in no position
to judge what a culture with doing 1400 years ago.
Now, it doesn't stop there.
Do you know 200 or 300 years ago in the
UK and in America what was the legal age of marriage? [I don't know.]
can you guess? [well, I believe 12 years old]
it was seven years old. you know according to who? william blackstone
Do you know why they used to marry young?
there were wars. Who goes fights and Wars? Men.
If you do not might apply quickly you will not survive.
That's number one. Number two: they had lowlife expectancy, right?
So they used to die early.
they didn't the same advancement in medicine.
So they used to die in an
earlier age, also the girls used to get mature very quickly.
do you know why? of the educational system that we have.
you have elementary school today if you listen to me... [ I am listening.]
Elementary School, secondary school, high school,
so you condition
the little children to only deal with little children.
So, they don't develop quickly.
yeah, I'm listening.
I know you're not listening. you know, men cannot focus
on two things all the time. [I can.]
So, you focus with me or... okay, what did I say?
You just said that the girls in our society, in our time,
deal with different things like School... therefore, they don't
think about marriage.
No, I said the girls.... I didn't say that. You see that's what
I'm saying.
You know, you are not focusing exactly with me.
I said those girls are conditioned with school to deal with
people of their own age.
So they do not get mature.
But at that time they didn't have this.
the girl reaches the age of puberty straightaway
The girl is ready for marriage.
That's how it was, but my question to you is this Who defines an adult?
Do you know what is definition of An adult?
yes.
What is the definition of an adult?
A man or a woman that reaches puberty.
Okay.
Do you know that Ayesha (ra) reached puberty
Before Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) had intercourse with her?
Do you know according to a books called 'human development'
on average girls on the age of 10 years old reach the age of puberty.
In hot weather the physical nature of the girl
grows much quicker than the cold natured, Do you know that?
No, I don't know.
There is an experiment on fish.
They have applied heat on the fish and the fish that has
Heat have grown much quicker than the fish that didn't have
the same amount of heat. heat affects your genes that how you grow.
So, when we look back at 1400 years ago that was complete
different elements. Girls used to grow maturely very easily.
It was the culture of the time.
They were also psychologically very mature.
Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) waited for 3 years.
Why would he (Pbuh) wait 3 years? If he wanted to do something with a kid,
Why would he wait for three years?
Well....
None of the people at the time of prophet Muhammad (Pbuh)
have accused him of doing something wrong.
let's say I will have
have a sexual intercourse with a nine years old, today?
Today, Islam says is wrong.
No, no, forget...
How does this society call me? [Islam says is wrong.]
This Society? This society has an age restriction.
Therefore they will look at you like you're someone different.
but that's the problem. Who says this Society is right and
the society 1400 years ago was wrong?
That was my question to you.
Who says that? [well.. my..]
Where does the bible say the age of marriage?
If I will...
Now, you're applying your country's laws not God's laws.
My own intellect, it is very very bad.
Today, I agree.
Have you ever been to the people who live in Mountains?
Well, of course, I'm from Romania.
We have a lot of mountains.
Okay, the people who only strictly live in mountains;
They only eat from from the land.
How are these people grow And how the physical nature?
At least in my country, there is no difference.
then your country is..... how is the weather in your country?
It is a Temperate continental climate. [It's Europe.]
You know, I'm talking about countries which are hot.
Have you ever been?
No, I don't.
Okay.
If you go there you will see how the girls look.
The girl is 18 years old, and she looks like 21.
They have different psychological,
different societal, different environmental elements.
You can't apply your own standards on anyone else
unless you show me God,
Where did God put a standard for age in the Bible for marriage?
Well, I don't think there is a standard.....
Thank you, okay.
So I'm saying if I stand on a society,
No, one criticized Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) for his marriage.
Do you know that? you called him a magician, a liar,
You called him everything. No one criticized him for marrying Ayesha (ra).
Do you know why? [No, I don't know.] That was the norm.
Do you know the first wife of prophet Muhammad (Pbuh)?
Yes, Khadija (Ra).
how old was she? I think, she was 40 years old.
How old was he? [28.] He was 25.
So, someone wants to marry children,
Why would he marry someone 15 years older than him?
Do you know
all of the wives of prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) were widows, divorcees?
Do you know about a widow, a divorcee?
A woman who is married and got divorced or her husband died.
She's a widow.
All of the other wives of the prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) are like this.
The ages...
Why did he (Pbuh) need so many wives?
That's a good question. to bring the people close.
He (pbuh) married girls, for example, Safiyyah (Ra) that I mentioned to you about.
She was the daughter of the leader of the Jewish tribe in Mecca.
So he's bringing the people close.
That was their Tradition at the time.
You understand? The Arabs and the tribes
If I marry your daughter, that's how we you know, Kings used
to do the same. A King married the daughter of another queen.
That's how you bring the country close. [That's wrong.]
Not necessarily, if the girl is okay with it,
it is not wrong. why is it wrong?
Why is it wrong if the girl is okay with it?
Because I have very big capacity to memorize...
I memorized some of your scripture.
Before you come to my scripture, before you come to it,
because you're not being sincere with me right now.
Why?
I answered your questions.
I am a very sincere person, you know this?
I answered, a sincere person will not say he's a sincere person.
But coming back to what I'm saying.
I told you I will answer your questions.
Now, you want to jump to another question, right?
so to you It doesn't matter how many answers
I will give you, it will not change your mind.
of course, That is the fact. [Okay.]
so if you are saying this, how are we having a conversation?
Well, [No point.]
if you're not open minded, listen,
I'm willing to change my mind with evidence.
Well, you are not willing to do the same.
A hindu guy told me once in the city of Leicester,
a Hindu evangelist, let's call him evangelist
was in the streets to...
very little they do this, [To handle leaflets..]
not many do this...
Are you talking about the Hare Krishna?
Yes, [specifically..Hare Krishna]
When I refused to to take what he was about to handle it..
I said no.
I'm a Christian.
Guess what?
Oh, you Christian! you are open-minded.
And then what? you will take advantage of my open mindedness.
No, he's generalizing...
To force me... to put me into your belief.
You are you telling me all Christians are open-minded.
Well, no,
Of course, he's wrong.
I said what I have seen. [So, he is wrong.]
When he says all Christians are open-minded,
That's the wrong thing to say.
Look Muslims.... you agree there is...
open-mindness doesn't necessarily mean accepting everything.
Did I say you accept everything?
But you said to me, no matter what I show you you will not accept
That means..[.. Islam.. no..]
That is what I'm talking about open-minded...
Now, whether you are willing to accept something or not...
you are saying I'm not going to accept anything
when it comes to Islam...
step by step...
Let me put a list. [Yeah.]
Starting from Judaism, [okay.]
Buddhism, Christianity, Hinduism, Sikhism ....
For the last is Islam,
That will be the one I would never accept.
It's your choice.
But as long.... look as long as you said to me that whatever
I show you not going to accept. To me there is enough.
You know, why?
Go ahead.
The Quran says that.
no matter which sign you show them;
If you show them every sign you will not believe in it.
If you show them the way of Truth, they will not accept it.
If you show them the way of misguidance and falsehood.
They will adopt it.
Now, You can say you're not doing that.
That's up to you.
Can you do something for me?
if I can [if you want, obviously if you want]
Yeah, can you read the Quran not selected verses
But open
the book from the beginning which we'll talk about Adam (A.S) by
the way in Chapter 2, it would be interesting for you,
Because the story is very interesting for you.
It would be different.
Can you read the Quran?
Well, I'll be very honest with you.
Even to have under my roof the Quran would be an offense.
Okay, so you said to me, your name is Livio? [Yes.]
Okay,
So pleasure talking to you, Livio?