WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON.
MARTHA, THANK YOU.
WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON ISIS HERE
AND THE WAR ON TERROR, BECAUSE
THERE'S BEEN A DEBATE IN THIS
COUNTRY ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH
THE ENEMY AND ENHANCED
INTERROGATION ATTEMPTS.
SENATOR CRUZ, YOU HAVE SAID,
TORTURE IS WRONG, PERIOD.
CIVILIZED NATION DO NOT ENGAGE
IN TORTURE.
SOME OF THE OTHER CANDIDATES SAY
THEY DON'T THINK WATERBOARDING
IS TORTURE.
MR. TRUMP HAS SAID, I WOULD
BRING IT BACK.
SENATOR CRUZ, IS WATERBOARDING
TORTURE?
WELL, UNDER THE DEFINITION OF
TORTURE, NO, IT'S NOT.
UNDER THE LAW, TORTURE IS
EXCRUCIATING PAIN THAT IS
EQUIVALENT TO LOSING ORGANS AND
SYSTEMS, SO, UNDER THE
DEFINITION OF TORTURE, IT IS
NOT.
IT IS ENHANCED INTERROGATION, IT
IS VIGOROUS INTERROGATION, BUT
IT DOES NOT MEET THE GENERALLY
RECOGNIZED DEFINITION OF TORT
TORTURE.
IF ELECTED PRESIDENT, WOULD
YOU BRING IT BACK?
I WOULD NOT BRING IT BACK IN
ANY SORT OF WIDESPREAD USE.
AND INDEED -- I
SENATOR McCAIN IN LEGISLATION
THAT WOULD PROHIBIT LINE
OFFICERS FROM EMPLOYING IT,
BECAUSE I THINK BAD THINGS
HAPPEN WHEN ENHANCED
INTERROGATION IS EMPLOYED AT
LOWER LEVELS, BUT WHEN IT COMES
TO KEEPING THIS COUNTRY SAFE,
THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF HAS
INHERENT CONSTITUTIONAL
AUTHORITY TO KEEP THIS COUNTRY
SAFE.
AND SO, IF IT WERE NECESSARY TO,
SAY, PREVENT A CITY FROM FACING
AN IMMINENT TERRORIST ATTACK,
YOU CAN REST ASSURED THAT AS
COMMANDER IN CHEECHIEF, I WOULD USE
WHATEVER METHODS WE COULD TO
KEEP THIS COUNTRY SAFE.
NOR CRUZ, THANK YOU.
MR. TRUMP, YOU SAID NOT ONLY
DOES IT WORK, BUT YOU WOULD
BRING IT BACK.
WELL, I'LL TELL YOU WHAT.
IN THE MIDDLE EAST, WE HAVE
PEOPLE CHOPPING THE HEADS OFF
CHRISTIANS.
WE HAVE PEOPLE CHOPPING THE
HEADS OFF MANY OTHER PEOPLE.
WE HAVE THINGS THAT WE HAVE
NEVER SEEN BEFORE, AS A GROUP,
WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE,
WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW.
THE MEDIEVAL TIMES, I MEAN, WE
STUDIED MEDIEVAL TIMES, NOT
SINCE MEDIEVAL TIMES HAVE PEOPLE
SEEN WHAT'S GOING ON.
I WOULD BRING BACK WATERBOARDING
AND I WOULD BRING BACK A HELL OF
A LOT WORSE THAN WATERBOARDING.
MR. TRUMP, THANK YOU.
GOVERNOR BUSH, YOU SAID YOU
WON'T RULE IT OUT.
CONGRESS HAS PASSED LAWS BANNING
THE USE OF WATERBOARDING BY THE
MILITARY AND THE CIA, AS YOU
KNOW.
WOULD YOU WANT CONGRESS TO
CHANGE THAT?
NO, NO, I WOULDN'T.
IT WAS USED SPARINGLY, CONGRESS
HAS CHANGED THE LAWS AND I THINK
WHERE WE STAND IS THE
APPROPRIATE PLACE.
BUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS TO
MAKE SURE THAT WE EXPAND OUR
INTELLIGENCE CAPABILITIES.
THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GOING TO
SOLVE THIS FIGHT WITH PREDATOR
DRONES, KILLING PEOPLE SOMEHOW
IS MORE ACCEPTABLE THAN
CAPTURING THEM, SECURING THE
INFORMATION.
THIS IS WHY, CLOSING GUANTANAMO
IS A COMPLETE DISASTER.
WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS MAKE SURE
WE ARE KEPT SAFE BY HAVING
INTELLIGENCE CAPABILITIES, BOTH
HUMAN AND TECHNOLOGICAL.
THAT'S HOW YOU GET A MORE SAFE
PLACE, IS BY MAKING SURE THAT
WE'RE FULLY ENGAGED.
RIGHT NOW, THIS ADMINISTRATION
DOESN'T DO THAT.
GOVERNOR BUSH, THANK YOU.
SENATOR RUBIO, I DO WANT TO ASK
YOU, YOU HAVE SAID THAT YOU DO
NOT WANT THE TELEGRAPH TO THE
ENEMY WHAT YOU WOULD DO AS
COMMANDER IN CHIEF.
BUT FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE, DO
YOU BELIEVE WATERBOARDING IS
TORTURE?
WELL, WHEN PEOPLE TALK ABOUT
INTERROGATING TERRORISTS, THEY
ARE ACTING LIKE THIS IS SOME
SORT OF LAW ENFORCEMENT
FUNCTION.
LAW ENFORCEMENT IS ABOUT
GATHERING EVIDENCE.
ANTI-TERRORISM IS ABOUT FINDING
OUT INFORMATION TO PREVENT A
FUTURE ATTACK.
SO, THE SAME TACTICS DO NOT
APPLY.
AND IT IS TRUE, WE SHOULD NOT BE
DISCUSSING IN A WIDESPREAD WAY
THE EXACT TACTICS THAT WE'RE
GOING TO USE, BECAUSE IT ALLOWS
TERRORISTS AND OTHERS TO
PRACTICE HOW TO EVADE US.
BUT HERE'S THE BIGGER PROBLEM
WITH ALL OF THIS.
WE'RE NOT INTERROGATING ANYBODY
RIGHT NOW.
BEGAN TON
BEGAN ON THE MOW IS BEING
EMPTIED.
WE SHOULDN'T BE RELEASING THESE