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- [Lacey] What are the pieces of you, of your history,
that you're sort of mining for?
For laughs, or for not, I mean, for more serious.
- [Bill] Well, my show's about a murderer,
so I don't know... (group laughing)
- [Lacey] But I remember reading that your sister found
their pieces of your past that she was
surprised you sort of showed. - Yeah, I mean I
think there's also, with that character,
kind of what you're saying is you try to be
as honest as you can.
Especially, I don't know how you guys are
in the writers' room,
but sometimes it can feel like group therapy,
where those writers' rooms can get so personal.
I find like, I'll share things in the writers' room
that I've never shared with, like, closest friends
'cause you're trying to get to some truth about something,
so you just start, you know, talking about,
like, "Yeah, man, I remember like in, you know,
"ninth grade, just feeling like an utter failure,
"and I would just cry a lot, just like
"start crying and not knowing why."
And everybody going like, "All right Bill..."
(laughing)
My best friend Duffy Boudreau writes on the show,
and he's been friends with me since we were thirteen.
He's like, "I didn't know any of this stuff. Are you okay?"
(laughing)
But you just try to find that Venn diagram
of your main character and you in the room,
you know, you just try to pull people on stuff.
You know, Alec and I talked a lot about stakes, you know,
and I think, you know, comedy.
And we just go, "Can we do a show about death?"
You know, life and death, (laughs) you know?
"And still be funny," you know?
So, I guess my point is you take those things from your life
but you could put it into a "genre"-type thing
if you wanted to.
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This season on Barry, all the characters are trying to
fight their nature and just be honest and truthful,
but some of the characters, what they're realizing is
that's not what this town wants,
'cause that doesn't make a lot of money.
(group laughing) You know what I mean?
It makes people feel bad, you know?
The thing we keep seeing is people go,
"That was a bummer." (all laughing)
That's what everyone says when they see the honest thing.
- Yeah. - And it's funny,
'cause Stephen Root's character, Fuches,
is just this hitman kind-of,
He's like my hitman-agent guy, this dummy.
He's like, "People don't want that!"
He's the one telling me.
He's like, "People just want 'Braveheart!'
"They want that speech from 'Braveheart'."
(group laughing) You think that guy actually
gave that speech in Braveheart?
No, he just fucking died. - [Jerrod] Of course not.
(group laughing)
- But you see it, and it's like
the greatest thing you've ever seen, right?
- [Jerrod] Yeah, you need the redemption.
- Don't worry about being honest.
(laughing) Being honest just makes you
vulnerable and scared, you know?
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- In your show, one of the things
that I found fascinating is that
you are a murderer, and yet,
the audience, in many ways, is rooting for you.
And then all of the sudden, Sally's character,
a female, people don't get behind them the same way,
and I'm curious. - Well, it's funny,
we had a screening of the first four episodes,
and someone said, "I find her very unlikable."
And someone shouted out, "Barry kills people."
(all laughing)
- [Lacey] But what does that say?
- She's an ambitious actress, and she's not afraid
to play someone who is complicated.
They're not, I don't think, a bad person,
they're just incredibly complicated.
She's human.
- But this was always the thing on "Breaking Bad" for me.
- [Bill] Yeah, Skyler, people were just like,
"I can't stand Skyler."
And you're like...
- [Lacey] And meanwhile, they're rooting for Walter White.
- [Bill] She's home alone with, like, a special needs kid
and a baby, and she's the bad guy?
(laughing) - [Lacey] Yeah.
- I've had someone come up to me at a restaurant
and say, "I can't believe you made Henry Winkler
like, a terrible person."
(group laughing)
They were like, "that was-"
And they were-
I thought it was a bit at first, and then it was just, like,
that awful sinking feeling of like,
"Oh, they're being serious."
And they were holding my hand the whole time.
And I was like, "oh."
- Like I was shaking hands with them, and I was like
"Oh my gosh, you're really mad at me.
"Oh, you're not letting go of my hand."
(group laughing)
This person was like "It was very uncool."
(mumbles) "Okay, cool, well,
"he's happy playing it." (group laughing)
- [Lacey] (mumbles) paycheck, so he's good.
- He's good.
And then also, I've had people,
Alec loves this, where it's like
a female reporter will say,
"I've never found you attractive,
"but you shooting people was very attractive."
Like, "You, the gun, I found really attractive."
That's happened to me three times.
And then Alec will always go,
"Wait, I want to back up,
"you've never found him attractive?"
(group laughing)
- But how do you respond to that?
- I don't know how to respond to that.
I find it very strange, I find it-
- [Ali] That's a very weird thing to say to you.
- [Bill] Three times. - [Lacey] Three times!
- [Bill] It's happened three times.
- But you married the third person.
- Yeah, yeah. (group laughing)
The third person and I have real estate.
We have multiple houses together.
(group laughing) But it's weird, I don't
know where it comes from.
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