today we're looking at the Fireguard Next Generation of LED downlights from JCC Lighting
next generation i think you're right so from the next generation there must have been a
predecessor gordon is that where you'd like to start yeah the Fireguard range has been
incredibly popular for a long time but let's have a look at what's changed between the two
two designs so here's our original fire guard okay you know from a time when halogen was
still an important lamp source and here's our new led version of what JCC have cleverly done here
has designed this fitting to look like it's an integrated download oh it's not an integrated one
you're telling me it's got a lamp in it yeah so i'll just uh reveal the secret here
simple twist bezel ah yeah you'll see there's our lamp and the GU10 lamp holder in there so
what's your advantage to the electrician and maybe the customer for having lamps
okay so lots of electricians still like to fit these can style ones for the GU10 lamp yeah and
that gives you greater flexibility in terms of some of the lamp color temperatures out there
with dim to warm lamps we've seen in previous videos some of those smart lamps are coming in
yeah obviously different beam angles as well that you may not get with an integrated one
and when we're talking about electricians jcc have actually listened to the electricians taking their
feedback on board and put some of these into this new design yeah it's a new concept these
things people listening to what the electrician wants and yeah we followed this product around
some of its development journey as jcc joined us last year at some live events to get that
feedback from the electrician so we've covered what's important from the customer's perspective
what the front looks like but probably the electrician's more bothered about what's
happening at the back and there's been a number of innovations and you've tried these out there yeah
so i fitted one so as always it's always good to fit the product so just usual stuff obviously got
stripped back the cable before we go and do it so just dress it into the actual enclosure it's got
push fit connectors gordon which obviously we we absolutely love in order to make those connections
so just push them into place and then once i've got them pushed in i've got a ratcheting cord grip
but the can slightly different yeah so you'll notice it's got a very slim tapered design at
the back which makes it easier to push through your hole in the plasterboard okay so let's go
there let's have a closer look at that tapered effect that's making it easier for electricians
remember how much we like that okay so again let's just recap here's our original design yeah we've
got this solid cylinder there and also the actual connection is uh fixed to the actual can itself
that's perhaps the major change here the actual the connection is loose from it on this cable
it's nicely over sheathed there for additional protection but look at the can so that's the
tapered design right and what that allows you to do is push the springs back past 180 degrees right
brilliant so therefore when you're putting it in through the hole in the plasterboard everything's
nicely in line and you're not going to have to possibly damage the hole that you've just cut
good that's nice that's probably listened to the electrician's feedback on that in order to do that
and they made some changes as well on the actual connection so i had a go at connecting these
desktop in order to show you again how easy it is when we're putting two cables in so i've already
pre-dressed them just push those into position and then bring the second one in so we've got
two neutrals uh two cpcs and two switching line conductors in order for them to go in it and the
actual ratcheting core grip is solid within the unit we'll look at the original one in a second
so let's see the original ones again for that improvement order a slight improvement on there
if i remove this cap you'll notice it's separate it is so gary's want you to lose that you're also
definitely definitely something you'll lose but then let's have a look at the new version yeah so
it's again you can't lose it it's hinged onto it and it's the chord grip in one right yeah
there's our nice screwless terminals that you're right you push in if you have to remove them you
just push down the plunger then you'll be able to remove the wires okay brilliant so again
making things easier for the electrician so listen to the feedback from them and making
those improvements as we go along the actual fittings themselves are ip rated depend on whether
they are for bathrooms or general use you've got some gimbal versions here which are ip20
yes so there's two yeah there's the IP20 in the gimbal yeah and it's available in the in the
regular version as well okay this is IP20 but we also have an IP65 version yeah because it's got
the glass in place hasn't it yet from the front so not IP65 from the back okay you're not going to
use this as a garden spotlight but it is you know ideal for yeah shower rooms other areas with high
humidity i like the gimbal ones and the covers themselves come in four colors gordon tell me what
those colors are okay so i've got the white one here they also come with a brush nickel chrome and
a black finish okay and they're interchangeable aren't they yeah so you can obviously buy it with
the bezel yeah but you can buy additional bezels if you wanted to change them possibly at some time
in the future the decor has changed or something like that let's put you to the test then let's get
the the gimballed version the ones we can angle and let's see you interchange them so that's the
brush nickel brush nickel and lighter brush nickel and i'll swap that for the chrome one there okay
so yeah gimbal mechanism you can't obviously exchange the gimbal with a non-gimbal version
because the can is slightly wider on the gimbal version so so again lovely feature isn't it the
fact that you know you can put it put in your cans maybe they decided originally on white and then
they've decided for a different colour just flip those out and yeah obviously you can remove the
bezel when you're decorating it's a good tip yeah you don't want to paint all over it paint all over
especially on the chrome version um but obviously let's not forget these are fire rated down lights
they are and there's been obviously again back to the can there's been a few subtle changes there
so here's our original can right okay let's have a little look at that then so the original camera
has holes in the back gordon yeah so again you would have had a halogen lamp in here possibly
originally need to get some of the heat out of there right we've made a video about how this
works with the uh intumescent seal that would it would expand if there was uh if there was a fire
but it holds in the new one no because obviously we've dropped to a much lower power level with
with led lamps right so we don't need those uh necessarily those ventilation holes that leads
me in quite nicely as well gordon because you can cover these with insulation as well and the
maximum wattage of the lamps that can be fitted in the fittings is 7 watt maximum seven watts um
but obviously uh you know i like the fact there's no holes in the back because i used to find that
yeah you'd get uh all sorts of debris dropping through there and appearing on the front glass
particularly in an ip rated version yeah okay so that's another improvement yeah and then let's
not forget fire rated so what else do we have to worry about with fire rated these days again
we've left out a joist here that doesn't look like the joist that we traditionally had maybe
25 years ago we've got the i-joist and we've got the web joists so we've got a web joist out
for this one and it's really important isn't it Gordon that we've had the light fitting
itself tested against the structure within the building yeah so it's not enough to say
that this fitting is fire rated it must be tested with the joist system that they're using
to construct the house and jcc have been really proactive on this and then there's a big list on
their website of all the joist manufacturers that these fittings are compatible with yeah
but check that out because it does change all the time and make sure the fitting you're installing
matches the flooring system that's being used within the building you're working in we love
this fitting from jcc but as always we want your feedback have you fitted the first generation of
this fire guard fit and are you fitting the next generation at the moment what's your feeling and
thoughts please leave those comments below and we'll try and get back to as many as we can