so i'm pretty sure that none of us needs
a reminder of just how monumental the
launch of amd's zen 3 based cpus were
amd has been making major waves in the
market ever since ryzen first swaggered
onto the block back in 2017
but it was only really until the zen 3
chips arrived that things reached peak
interestingness
with the launch of zen 3 amd wasn't just
the best bang for the buck chipmaker
anymore they actually legitimately
managed to dethrone intel where it
mattered most
gaming
but out of all the chips that reviewers
wrote love songs to back then
the ryzen 7 5800x just wasn't one of
them
but that was then and this is about nine
months later and if biology taught me
anything it's that nine months can
change a lot of things
so
let's see whether the 5800x really is
still the black sheep of the zen 3
family or whether you can finally buy it
without reviewers making you feel bad
but first if you want to pick up the
5800x or any of the parts i'll be
mentioning in this video go ahead and do
it via my amazon affiliate links in the
description down below or if you're in
south africa grab it all at woodware
also linked down below now amd's entry
architecture brings with it a ton of
improvements and for those of you who
want to get clued up on all the spicy
details i'll drop a link to those down
below but because we've watched these
ships in action for a while now i won't
be digging into all those in this review
what i will do is mention that zen 3 is
efficient af thanks in large parts of
the teen c7 nanometer process it comes
packed with that sexy pcie 4.0 and a
very healthy generational ipc or
instructions per clock boost
that last part being the most important
there especially for us gamers as for
the chip we're working with here the
ryzen 7 5800x comes packed with all
those goodies packed into eight cores 16
threads with a base clock of 3.8
gigahertz and a very tasty max boost
clock of 4.7 gigahertz it also ships
with 32 megs of l3 cache has a tdp of
just 105 watts natively supports ram up
to 3 200 megahertz though obviously you
can go higher than that and like every
other ryzen chip that i know of is fully
unlocked for overclocking so with tech
and specs like that to back it up why
wasn't everyone singing the 5800x's
praises back when it first launched
well i say everyone there but i'm mostly
referring to reviewers regular folk and
scalpers bought this thing and the rest
of the 5000 series lineup like
i buy cases of monster when they go on
sale at checkers
the reason why certain reviewers didn't
bend the knee to the 5800x was pretty
simple in most cases
sandwiched right between the beastly
5900x and the extremely impressive 5600x
the 5800x's pricing just didn't make it
all that compelling
at launch the 5800x came in at 150
dollars more than the 6 core 5600x and
an upgrade to the 12 core 5900x would
have only cost you about 100 bucks more
this made it very easy to recommend the
5600x for gamers and the 5900x for
people who also use their systems for
work or like even their intel
counterparts seemingly leaving the 5800x
in a very awkward middle of the pack
position but that position has changed
now that things have stabilized a bit
and scalpers have had their phone
now the 5800x is a much more compelling
chip for gamers and creatives alike at
394 dollars or 7 600 grand at woodware
which means there's only about 121
premium going from the 5600x to 5800x
and surprisingly and sadly going from
the 5800x to the 5900x will cost you
between 164 to 216 more dollars at the
time of filming of course amne doesn't
have the only horse in this race intel
similarly specked and impressive in its
own right 11700k also lands at around
the same price point as the 5800x
but that's only really on paper
because intel's latest chips are based
on 14 nanometers they tend to need more
juice to run properly which means more
expensive motherboards with beefier vrm
configurations and that definitely tips
the value scale in favor of the 5800x
but let's shove that for a minute and
get to what's most important here
performance during testing across all
the systems i ran a 32 gigabyte kit of
crucial ballistics rgb memory at 3 600
megahertz cl 16 i tossed in an msi rtx
3070 gaming x trio msi's mag core liquid
360r to keep things cool and tech's 750
watt eig pro and crucials p5m02 as the
main drive
as for the amd chips they were socketed
into msi's mpg x570 gaming pro carbon
while asus's tough gaming z590 plus
handle intel and for the first round of
tests all the chips will run at stock
settings
to kick things off let's take a look at
productivity and first up is good ol
cinematch testing both single and
multi-core performance and to absolutely
no one's surprise none of the chips
could best the core i9 10 900k with its
extra cores when it comes to the
multi-core ride although both the 5800x
and 11700kf came pretty close that is
something we definitely don't see
playing out when it comes to single
quarter performance where while it was a
close race between it and the 11700 kf
amd's 5800x managed to come out on top
by a pretty decent margin next up is
blender running both the bmw and fishy
cat tests and because this is an
all-core heavy workload the 10900k does
come out on top but even so the 5800x
and the 11700 kf weren't too far behind
with the latter taking a slight lead
over the 5800x as for gaming let's kick
things off with two synthetic benchmarks
in the form of unigine superposition and
3d marks time spy
curiously it seems superposition kind of
favors the amd chips with each edging
out the competition from intel while in
time spy we kind of see the complete
opposite play out with intel coming out
on top
moving on to actual games instead of
clearing up the fierce battle between
the 5800x and the 11700k just keeps
getting messier and messier in the
majority of the titles we tested the two
chips seem very evenly matched with one
or the other just barely managing to
squeak out a win
but even so in certain titles like
hitman 3 and shadow of the tomb raider
the gains coming from the 5800x are
impressive
impressive enough that even though the
intel chip did come out on top in five
of the nine games tested and so
technically won
amd's combined average fps was higher by
about 2.7
clearly the 5800x has some serious
gaming muscle behind it some of that
coming from its max recorded single core
boost clock of 4.85 gigahertz it's also
not all that power hungry only hitting a
max power draw of about 142 watts
compared to the gluttonous 11700 k's max
of 184 watts
that lower power draw meant that the
chip with an ambient temp of 23 degrees
only hit a max of 77 degrees during
testing while the 11700k ran a bit
toastier at 85 degrees i did play around
with overclocking for the 5800x just a
little bit but only managed to get a
stable all-core overclock of 4.7
gigahertz and with that speed applied
gaming performance actually suffered a
little which makes sense because an
all-core overclock stops amd's precision
boost and overdrive from automatically
boosting higher in games a pair core
overclock is definitely the way to go if
you want to overclock this bad boy now
clearly the 5800x is a gaming powerhouse
and pretty dang decent for productivity
too
but is it actually worth picking up well
if you're picking between it and the
11700k
then yes
while there are some arguments to be
made for going with team blue here
integrated graphics being a pretty big
one of those
the 5800x just has too big of a value
advantage here
even though both chips fall into about
the same price class once you factor in
the 11700k higher power draw requiring
pricier motherboards with beefier vrm
configurations and a higher temperature
possibly requiring a heftier cooler then
the value proposition just isn't there
for the 11700k
as for the rest of the stack including
amd's own 5650
along with some real composition from
team blue in their latest i5 lineup
it's still a hard choice to make
sort of
if you already use your system almost
exclusively for gaming or are looking to
build or upgrade your system
specifically for gaming and don't have a
massive budget then the choice is simple
go with the 5600x
it's the best bang for the buck gaming
chip you can get right now simple as
that
and even with the lower core count this
5600 x should still be more than good
enough for most creative applications if
you're on the opposite end and plan on
primarily using your system for work and
can't afford the extra 150 to 200
premium over the 5800x to get the 5900x
then absolutely go for it those 12 cores
and 24 threads are going to make your
life a heck of a lot easier when it
comes to creative applications and even
more extra cpu heavy professional
applications
just it's a great ship so who's the 5800
x4 then
well the way i see it
the 5800x is for people like me
people who want a great gaming chip that
also doubles as a damn decent work chip
and actually falls into my budget which
doesn't allow for the extra 200 or so it
would take to go to the 5900x
it's a chip for gamers who also dabble
in creative work on the side streamers
photographers youtubers advanced
multitaskers and even those who just
want like to dip their toes into more
demanding stuff like 3d rendering and
like the 5800x's price and performance
position right now is slightly different
from where it was at launch and that
difference is enough that if you are one
of the people i just mentioned
then the 5800x is a pretty easy
recommendation
almost as easy as recommending that if
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