sometimes when we watch surveillance
footage in badge cams we gotta just
recognize that sometimes we all make
mistakes
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watchers we're seeing surveillance
footage here in the sally port at san
diego pd the guy in the back of this
cruiser has been arrested for
threatening to stab several employees of
a hotel
and so they put him in the back and
what's going to happen here is the
officer
who is actually a trainee i know some
folks in her department
and you know she's seeing this guy okay
i got to get him out of here this is a
place where they will book people before
they then transport them
to the jail so she tries to get him out
and recognizes the fact that he has
actually slipped his handcuffs
which happens on occasion so she says
hey this guy slipped his handcuffs so
you can see the other officer start
gloving up and going
oh boy we're going to have to get this
guy out of this car and get him back
into his cuffs
now what's going to happen and what
we're going to see here is that the
officer whose car this
is has left his personal bag with his
backup gun in it in the top layer of the
back seat of his cruiser
that is against policy there's a bottom
layer that's secure
but in that top layer they say you can't
leave stuff like that because
you know guys can break in and this
guy's actually reached in the back put
his hand through the plexiglas
and gotten a hold of it and this is what
happens they pull their guns because
they see
that he's gotten this bag and gotten the
gun out of the bag and because he's
gotten that gun of course
they all start drawing firearms now you
see them get around here in a pretty
significant way
uh when we hear the badge cams we'll
hear them start yelling at each other
about crossfire and those things and
they're talking to this guy saying hey
man we don't want to shoot you
but we will if we have to and dude's
just sitting in the back of the car
again he has taken an officer's backup
gun that
he got out of the back of the car by
sticking his hand
uh through the plexiglass and bending it
as far enough to be able to get what's
back in there
and and so they are really talking at
him here and trying to get him
to give it up and not make this any
worse than it is now you're gonna see
them all back
up and go find some cover here and
they're really trying to play it cool
we got a lot to cover on this one still
coming but they're still hollering at
him
trying to talk to one another and have
told him many times and he needs to drop
that gun and get it out of his hands
and put his hands up so that they can
take him back into custody now we're
gonna go to the badge cam here
of the the uh first officer and what
we're gonna see here is things get going
from his perspective now
we do have audio here in a little while
once things get a little bit sporty
so let's listen in to what the officer
says here
and then once that is over then we'll
come back and keep thinking through this
problem let me see your hands
let me see your hands let me see your
hands hey aunt let me see your hands
right now
let me see your hands let me see your
hands let me see your hands
right now let me see your [ __ ] hands
bro
cece has your he has yours he's got a
gun he's got a gun
watch your crossfire
let me see your hands bro let me see
your hands stop
we don't want to shoot you nobody wants
to shoot you bro
let me see your hands this
becca let's back up
on the surveillance camera you're gonna
watch this actually take a shot through
the roof of the cruiser there
we're gonna go back now to the badge cam
uh this is the trainee female officer
badge cam
got more audio let's listen in
now what we can see is the glass has
actually been shot out of the back
window and so our perp actually reaches
around to the outside
and pops the door and so then what
you're gonna see here is
him get out of there now we can see in
the top there we can see that there is
one officer that's gotten out a patrol
rifle and is pointing at
him and they're screaming and hollering
at him to get on the ground and then not
hold a gun you can actually see he's got
the gun
in his waistband at this point and he
has been hit
but not terminally not in a way to stop
him so they're hollering at him because
he's just got the gun in his waistband
and not in his hand
to get on the ground in those things
he's trying to get into the back of the
cruiser
but he can't because it's locked and so
the cruiser was appropriately locked
so again couldn't get to the stuff
underneath of
the secure area but he's trying to get
into that secure area because
certainly there is an awful lot of
deadly force stuff in there
he can't get in there so what's gonna
happen is he's gonna go try to get into
the front of the cruiser well of course
there
is a patrol carbine and all that stuff
so when he starts doing that he gets
shot at
three times by one of the officers
that's off to the left of camera
and uh he gets hit again though not
fatally and put on the ground now this
guy
is the king of not paying attention to
his surroundings and what's going on in
his world
and so he is going to push himself up
again and you can see on the top left
there they're getting the
canine ready for him and he is going to
try one more time
to get himself up to get in this car and
and you're going to see him as he pokes
his head up here he gets shot at again
because they don't want him to get into
that cruiser
and now what's gonna happen is the dog
is gonna get released on him and once
again we've got some more badge cam
stuff i want you to listen in
on the audio for
hey hey get away from the vehicle
stay there stop reaching out reaching
right now
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don't reach for the gun
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they understand
zoomed in here you can see the uh
handgun that he's got in his waist there
at that point uh he did live through
this in fact they took him to the
hospital after they got him in custody
uh he's facing a whole host of new
charges on this one and there's been
some disciplinary action
with the officer in question who left
his handgun in the unsecured area of the
back of his cruiser
i think out of this one we can say that
there definitely were some mistakes that
were made but some good things that will
definitely come
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you these lessons let's talk about them
they're a bunch
holy smokes there's so much to talk
about out of this one now again as this
officer who is still in her fto
goes back there this is just a sally
port where they book people before they
take them to the jail so it's very
administrative action guys and cops
and whatever and i think in a lot of
ways she did a pretty good job here
we're gonna talk about a few things that
we can do a little bit better
uh pretty crazy situation all the way
around now as she's gonna get this guy
and and you know put some gloves on to
get him out of the car she sees he
slipped his cuffs
does a really good job here of calling
in help and getting the doors shut again
now let's talk for a little bit of
course about the fact that he
left that the officer left the gun
in an unsecured area that could be
gotten by
somebody that's in the back of the car
very difficult for him to do but this is
why we see they say don't do that and i
know all trainees are taught not to do
that
and that's bad juju so don't get
complacent friends
when you're talking about your storage
of your equipment because that's bad
things are to happen
now there is some stuff that we want to
talk about here i do love the fact that
the officer gets out his handheld light
here
of course every police officer needs a
very powerful handheld light
i suggest them for private citizens as
well because when you want to see things
that's the way to do that i need to get
some light in there so i can see things
so i want all the candela that i can
possibly get
to be able to see as much as i can he
did a fine job of that here
and now he goes oh that guy's got a gun
now of course everybody gets their gun
out here and notice that our officer
starts to try to think about putting his
light away but then he goes oh wait i
can't get it in my pocket
because it'll make me take my eyes off
this guy so he's gonna stay
single hand on the gun and uh handheld
light when he actually has a pistol
mounted line on his pistol
guys i can't tell you enough at times
you just got to drop what's in your
hands i know you don't want to lose your
light but right now your life's at stake
drop the thing in your hand and get two
hands on the gun use the pistol mounted
light
that's what you have it for and yes you
need that right now and if we we got
problems
they are gun problems now of course
let's talk here real quick about the
crossfire problem that we have just
created
because i get it that these other two
officers want to go around to a place
that they can
see the bad guy better but you always
got to think about crossfire problems
when you've got a partner that's the
same if you're in law enforcement
or if you're a private citizen who has a
self-defending partner or spouse or
whatever
you got to think about crossfire
problems and they did a pretty okay job
of communicating that to each other hey
everybody watch the crossfire
let's come over on this side and not do
that notice the officer here is using
the pistol mounted light
on the left side pretty okay using it
spotting moving spotting moving that's
pretty good here
and i think that's pretty commendable
now i also want you to notice our
trainee here over on the right hand side
she is far back from everyone else and
still has a gun up now i can't see down
her sights and i don't know where her
firearm is pointed
but when we talk about priority of fire
when you've got a gun up like this real
easy for one of your compatriots to move
in front of your muzzle
at that second that you were going to
fire so either move forward
or get your gun down so then that way
you don't point a gun at one of your
fellow officers she does a good job
there of dropping her muzzle
but when you're back behind the line see
how fast people can move here
you really want to watch getting back
behind somebody when you are in these
kinds of situations
so we get again the crossfire problem
here the officer on the far left is in a
big crossfire problem though i think the
trainee has put herself
in a pretty good spot here to not be in
the crossfire with somebody
i also want to say man when you put
bullets through glass things are going
to do weird stuff so you better watch
out for that
now we're going to watch all of our
officers back off here and i think this
is commendable they give this guy
every opportunity to not get shot and by
every opportunity i mean
literally every opportunity you heard
how much they talked to him
and what was going on with that and
that's my next big thing
and i know we're having a big discussion
in our nation right now
about police presence and what the
police are doing and should doing this
guy's absolutely somebody who's been
threatening to knife a bunch of people
at a hotel
so they needed to take him into custody
and and again this guy's already shown
a manifested violent intent now he's
stolen a cop's gun and he's got it in
his hand
and the fact of the matter is this
officer just did everything he could
have
using good verbal skills hey man i don't
want to shoot you put the gun down
don't raise that gun show me what you're
doing now again you want to use
simple positive commands and i think the
officer did an okay job of that
and didn't get stuck in a verbal loop
said hey man i don't want to shoot you
let's be okay here we don't want to go
this way buddy why don't you show me
your hands
show me your hands put the gun down so
he's giving simple and positive commands
and i think this is exemplary of what we
see in police work an awful lot in the
u.s in reality i know the negative
examples stick out a lot but i think the
positive example
should set us out as well and when an
officer does a good job like that i've
given this guy literally every
opportunity not to get shot
before he ended up having to protect
himself and everybody else around
i think that's good now when the officer
does back off here i think he picked a
good spot there
by putting himself back in the back now
when the dude shoots at the officers
you put a shot at cops you're gonna get
shot and you should expect to get shot
recognize how far this shot is that we
are looking at here the officer who went
and shot
back at them we got a couple of shots
back from this officer here
and there's at least about 30 feet
between them this is not your typical
self-defense distances so make sure that
your marksmanship skills
are pretty significant here now
officer's got his patrol car being out
dude
is getting out of the car now there's
something that i really want to sit and
think about for just a minute
is that this officer has a patrol car
being up on this guy and
i think that in a lot of cases some
people are going to say he should have
shot him right there but we always talk
about did he absolutely have to shoot
him right there
because dude had the gun in his
waistband and so again this officer
shows
incredible restraint trying to get this
guy back in custody
without having to shoot him with the
patrol carping you put a a
rifle round in somebody their chances of
surviving that very slim
so i think he showed incredible
restraint because the guy didn't have
the gun in his hands so he didn't
absolutely have to shoot him it wasn't a
must and so he didn't
and i think that is incredibly admirable
again i think these officers are showing
incredible restraint in not
using deadly force when they certainly
could have so when we talk about the can
they
should they must they paradigm i think
that that
gets law enforcement as well as private
citizens and they are showing incredible
restraint here of course
you want to use force as a last resort
especially in america today
because you know it's going to lead to
incredible scrutiny could lead to the
end of your career if you make even the
tiniest bit of mistake here
so i think they did a fine job of that
now why would they then use deadly force
again
when this guy's trying to get in the car
well that's pretty simple here is he
tries to get his way into the car
why would the officer use force here
when they didn't use force before
if this guy gets in this car number one
in the cab of that car where the officer
is they have probably a patrol carbine
there or a patrol shotgun
so a gun is in there as well this guy
gets in that car he then uses that car
as a deadly force implement he's a
threat to
the officers in the sally port and to
the general public
so certainly tennessee versus conor here
they have every right to use deadly
force and this is the time they have to
because if he gets in the car then they
got
real problems the thing i do want to
notice here is you notice it puts the
guy down
but it didn't stop him again bullets do
weird stuff when you put them through
windshield glass or glass of any kind
so recognize that you may have to shoot
more than you think you do through the
glass because the glass is going to make
it do crazy stuff
now clearly this guy is completely off
because he sees what's going on and is
still going to try to get away so when
he starts playing peek-a-boo with that
officer who was sitting in that spot
and he's made the decision if that guy
tries to get in the car again i'm going
to shoot him so he stops
and that's exactly what we see here now
i do also want to say we don't get to
see the tactical puppers use very often
the canines that when they show up we
don't see them on camera all that much
but the dog did a fantastic job here i
love the fact that the dog
chose to bite on the right hand and i'm
not sure that he's
that that was a purposeful thing but it
was a perfect thing because of course
the guys got the gun in his right
waistband and so when the dog gets a
hold of his right arm
he can't really get to that gun
especially because the dog is shaking
him around and those kinds of things
and that got this guy back in custody
it's amazing how many times a dog stops
a fight in somebody because people don't
want to get bit by the dog
so really excellent use in this instance
of the police canine to end the threat
now a couple more things from our
training here that i really want us to
think about
that she's doing okay here but notice
how many times she's taking her hand off
her gun she's going one-handed here
two-handed now i'm gonna am i gonna key
my mic what am i doing what am i looking
around
now i wanna stop right here and
recognize a couple things that where she
chose to put herself here number one she
doesn't have any cover here so if the
guy
chooses to draw his firearm she's got
nothing standing between her and bullets
number two she's standing behind the
officer with the patrol car meaning he
doesn't know
that she is there and therefore he could
step left in a hurry and we could have a
fracture side doing that
the answer to that is is you want to
step forward and be on an even line with
them if you
can so then that way they know you're
there or at the very least step
up to that place with them and then hand
out i'm right here next to you don't go
left
so then that way that that officer knows
better than to come that way notice she
can't see the guy at any rate at this
point
so when he goes down what is she doing
here i want you to think about
positioning and always think about
improving your position improving your
control improving your ability to
control the situation
now i think that they both showed a
pretty good remarkable amount of
restraint here that's a really good
thing last thing notice here that the
officer has one glove on she was trying
to get gloved up when all these things
go down
i would recommend that my police officer
friends do some shooting with their
nitrile gloves on
because it will change the feel a little
bit of how the gun is in your hand
and you should not you know be the first
time you're doing that is when you're
doing it for real so i would
do a little bit of shooting with your
nitrile gloves on just so that you've
got that feel for it
now again she does an okay job there
finally of stepping up
when the when the dog gets on him and
that's a really good thing and they got
him together but what i notice here is
you notice there she finally comes up
and i do want to say this i can't see
her sights but i do notice the officer
with the patrol carbine has his sights
depressed so he is looking from a low
ready position
and looking over his sights to be able
to see what's going on i think that's a
great thing i think we should train more
from the low ready rather than from gun
up in sights on target
because it's just as fast and you can
see better and you're not pointing a gun
at something that you don't want to
shoot right now
so yes there were some mistakes made
here i do think that all these officers
did some very good things
there were some significant
administrative mistakes made but let's
learn the tactical lessons as well about
how chaotic these things can be about
putting ourselves in a good position
hooray for the tactical pupper and
thankfully no one was harmed in this one
and everybody got out okay but let's
learn some lessons here about covering
our asp