Things got heated on the view.
And of course you can see
Meghan McCain on the side with a B
roll because anytime anything gets
fired on the view Meghan McCain
is involved.
This time the conversation was
about representative Matt Gates,
who's facing an investigation for
allegedly paying for an underaged
person to have sex with him,
that investigation is ongoing.
And so, the other latest,
the view wanted to know why it is
that Republicans haven't stripped
him of his committee roles, and
ensure that there were other
consequences for his actions.
Now whether you agree with that or
not, the way that Meghan McCain
handled it was a sight to see.
Let's watch.
>> If it's not the Republican Party
shall I call it the QAnon Party?
What shall I call your party now,
who defends people like Matt Gates
and goes against Liz Cheney?
What are we supposed to call it?
>> I think you can call it whatever
you want [CROSSTALK] in the
Republican Party is almost zero.
And again, as I've said on this
show, it is for
us to rule out amongst ourselves.
What republican is like, ooh, Joy
Behar hard doesn't like my party.
God, I better stop voting
for them now.
[CROSSTALK] I hold on influence on
the left.
I don't think at least.
>> Yes but you often on this show
give your opinion of what
the Democrats should be doing to
better themselves.
[CROSSTALK] >> But
you said that people on
Capitol Hill are supporting him.
I'm telling you from people
that I know personally,
they are embarrassed.
This is embarrassing for
the Republican Party.
>> Obviously Congress- >> Okay then
why don't they get rid of them?
[CROSSTALK] >> Because I don't
think they have to convict him or
whatever. I'm not worried they have
to what is it they have to get
the police have to arrest him.
I don't know enough about it, but
like they have to arrest him in
charge. And that's why they didn't
have any problem.
>> They didn't have any problems.
[CROSSTALK] >> Without any further
ado, let's check it out. >> But
that's a different thing that was
changing wasn't on the committee.
She was the one ranking member and
she didn't leave a name.
>> Here's what I'm going to
do Sonny has a legal note that she
needs to read right now.
[CROSSTALK] >> Do me a favor,
please and read your legal notes.
[CROSSTALK] >> Every break was born
and bred.
>> We're going for a break. >> Yes.
>> We'll be right back.
>> Meghan McCain was right.
>> What?
>> Meghan McCain was right.
>> About?
>> Well, first off, let me just say
that Joy Behar pointing out
the hypocrisy of the Republican
party is a fair point.
With that said,
Meghan McCain is right in that
Joy Behar has absolutely no
influence on Republican voters,
the Republican party.
And so while I think that it makes
sense to call out that hypocrisy as
a Democrat on that show.
It's also definitely true that it's
going to have absolutely no impact
in changing the hearts and
minds of Republican voters.
And look,
I mean, I think it's really clear
what Republican voters want, and
they have become the party of Trump
and Matt Gates carries water for
Trump.
He goes up.
Donald Trump himself was accused,
not by one not by two,
not by three, but by dozens of
women of sexual misconduct.
Teflon, no political consequences,
no legal consequences, nothing.
So I don't like the reality, but
the reality is what Meghan McCain
laid out there, I wish that she
stuck to the word conviction
because she was right but
other than that,
I really have no critique for
what she had to say there.
>> Yeah,
I didn't love the talking over.
>> Yeah.
>> At the end there, but let's
break it down a little bit further.
So first of all,
Joi Behar is correct in pointing so
I didn't want you to miss because
there was so
much shouting over each other.
She says, well, why don't I get rid
of my case take away his committee
assignments and stuff.
McCain says well, because he wasn't
convicted then job at heart makes
a great point, but
neither was Liz Cheney of anything.
She was not even charged
with a crime.
She's not charged with any
improprieties.
The only thing that she's charged
with is not bowing her head to
dear leader Donald Trump.
And so that was enough to strip her
of her assignment number three
position in Republican leadership
in the house.
So that's enough.
But the information
on Matt Gates is not enough.
So that's indisputable, okay.
Now- >> But hold on, but
Meghan McCain also agrees with
that, right.
I mean, she does not agree with
what happened to Liz Cheney.
And so the way that the interaction
went down makes it appear as though
McCain is carrying water for
the current republican party.
When in reality she
has been critical of them,
and in particular critical
of what they did to Liz Cheney.
>> So but then then let's go to
the major point because it actually
happened a little bit before that
clip began.
And so in that clip I hear what
you're saying.
Yeah, not only are you going to
listen short pay high that's
certainly true and actually McCain
there was a tiny bit
self deprecating if you caught it
between all the shouting, she said
and the left wouldn't listen to me.
That's also true.
Believe me, that's true.
>> Definitely.
Okay, and so, yeah,
the Republican Party are monsters.
But that's actually the point that
Joy Behar was trying to make.
And she said, you're saying it's
not the Republican Party that
supports Matt Gates.
And earlier in the discussion,
Meghan McCain was saying,
I know tons of people that work,
and she's talking about family
members that work on the Hill and
that are Republicans and
they don't support McCain.
Well, they're not supporting him
secretly, but publicly,
they're completely supporting him.
So she's like,
that's not the Republican Party.
No, but it literally is.
The Republican Party just took
official action against Liz Cheney.
But they refused to take
official action against Matt Gates.
They could go to Ted.
I wish he wouldn't sleep with
underage girls in private.
>> Allegedly.
>> Allegedly, exactly.
But, but
politics is not done in private.
It's done publicly.
And so if you say I love Matt Gates
publicly and I it's awesome that he
was with underage girls.
Publicly and
then behind the scenes you go,
I wish he would do that.
That doesn't count.
So, if the entire republican party
in terms of the legislators in the
house are supporting Matt Gates,
that is the Republican Party.
That's what Joy Behar is
100% right about it.
That's why she said what do you
want me to call him?
You say you don't want me
to call them the Republican Party.
That's not the Republicans, do you
want him call the killing on party?
But you tell me and
that was a fair question.
What do we call him?
Because you tell me that
Republicans are awesome.
And when I tell you all
the terrible things that you do,
no secretly that's not
the republican party.
No, there ain't no secretly, okay.
We can all see what the Republican
Party is doing publicly and
they are monsters total outer
monsters that even Meghan McCain
can't defend most of the time.
So then she just says no,
you have to trust me.
I know a lot of Republicans and
they're wonderful in private.
>> Yeah, it's just like
Nancy Pelosi and her Medicare for
all posters in her basement.
>> Exactly. >> Right, I mean, it's
the same kind of ridiculous like,
no, but their heart like
I know what's in their heart.
No, but it doesn't matter what's in
their heart.
What matters is the actions that
they take?
Who they carry water for and
what they try to justify,
even if privately, they don't
agree with what they're justifying.
And by the way,
that is the, in my opinion, the top
level of fecklessness, that drink.
I know I use feckless a lot.
Mostly because I want to curse
but I can't.
But you get what I'm saying, right,
that's as cowardly as you can be.
And for the Republican Party,
which has presented itself as this
party of strong men, this party of
individuals with principles who
want to fight for those principles,
it really undoes the decades of
messaging that they've
put behind that kind of branding.
>> Yeah, and look,
we're actually fair.
So, there are Democrats in this
country who say,
Nancy Pelosi doesn't actually do
anything we want, but she secretly
really wants to do them.
And that's the reference that
Anna's making.
She wish she was being challenged
on Medicare for all,
which she despises publicly opposes
makes fun of publicly.
She said no, I have a poster for
single payer health care,
in my basement from the 1960s.
Apparently where she killed it and
buried.
So we're honest about that,
and say no what you think privately
is incredibly immaterial.
What you do publicly as Speaker of
the House is what matters.
What legislation do you propose?
Which legislation do you pass?
I don't give a dare what you think
privately or secretly or
in your basement.
We are fair on both sides.
And by the way to give credit to
the view there,
it's a fascinating different show.
Joy Bihar is actually pretty damn
good progressive and probably
one of the best progressives
anywhere on television.
Sunny hosting does a pretty
good job.
On the other hand, Whoopi Goldberg,
hasn't met a democratic talking
point that she hasn't fallen in
love with.
>> Totally 100%.
>> And so she would be the first
one to agree with Meghan McCain
about privately and secretly.
I guarantee you, if you challenge
Whoopi Goldberg and Pelosi Biden,
Kamala Harris, Schumer,
any of them, she be no, privately
they're the most wonderful people.
And there was nothing they
could do.
>> Yeah.