zack snyder's zombieverse is alive and
kicking in the prequel movie army of
thieves giving us a stack of secret
clues that could well prove my crazy
time loop theory yupikai movie lovers
i'm jan and in this video i'm explaining
everything the army of thieves reveals
about the future of the army of the dead
franchise as well as some huge updates
for snyder's sequel planet of the dead
spoilers ahead of course for both movies
i first mentioned the serious
probability that the team in army of the
dead was stuck in a strange kind of time
loop in my video about that movie the
key moment happens in the casino
basement when the group come across some
skeletons there's another team of grave
robbers is it another team or is it us
dieter i mean look at him it's us the
skeletons are uncannily wearing almost
identical clothes from peter's hawaiian
shirt to scott's red bandana zack snyder
has since confirmed he deliberately
asked the production team to make the
skeletons look like the crew and that
the dried up bodies around the second
set of plans the team find on the casino
floor are meant to be versions of them
as well and now army of thieves has laid
out its own set of clues which support
my army of the dead time loop theory the
first comes when dieter introduces a
story of hans wagner a master locksmith
who designed four extremely difficult to
crack safes each one named after an
opera from rickard wagner's epic ring
cycle the zeingold the valkyrie the
siegfried and the gutter demo the gerta
damarang is a safe the crew break into
in vegas and the first three safes are
the ones due to cracks in army of
thieves the fact the new movie
establishes that the gerta damarang is
both the fourth safe and the fourth work
in wagner's epic opera is an important
detail as there are clues that the time
loop we see in the army of the dead may
be on its fourth iteration for example
the necklace that cruz wears in the
movie has four holes whereas the same
necklace on her skeleton only has three
originally the nuke was due to hit vegas
on the 4th of july and the liberace
impersonator counts to four as the
zombie apocalypse kicks off in vegas and
the convoy transporting zeus out of area
51 refer to themselves as a four
horsemen van der rohe's repetition of
fighting and dying three times could
also imply there have been three
previous time loops we're caught in some
infinite loop of fighting and dying
fighting and dying fighting and dying
and dieter thinks he shot the zombie
bride three times when it was actually
four shut up three times actually it was
four it's strange that dieter should get
this wrong and could imply he's
misremembering how he shot her three
times on the previous loop by the way an
army of thieves there's a neat easter
egg to that kill when dieter sees a news
report about the vegas outbreak and
there's a zombie bride shuffling around
in the background also an army of
thieves as dieter is figuring out how to
crack the valkyrie safe he says i
believe the logs are to be solved and
the order of the story and then the
cycle begins anew which could suggest
that cracking all of wagner's four safes
will kick off a new cycle or time loop
if you like finally in some mind-bending
ironic reveal it all begins again this
idea is reinforced even further when the
army of thieves epilogue replays scott
and cruz meeting dieter for the first
time and he comments about the prospect
of cracking wagner's fourth and final
safe it's a doorway to another realm my
friends and providence has brought you
to me we go through it together the idea
that unlocking the gerta damarang will
be like opening a portal to another
dimension or timeline is implied after
dieter pushes van der rohe into the safe
and shuts him in so when van der rohe
emerges in the aftermath of the nuclear
strike on vegas and discovers he's been
bitten this might be a completely
different timeline because we never
actually saw zeus bite him before he
went in the safe now as dieter closed
the door on van der rohe his own fate
was seemingly sealed as zeus pulled him
away however army of thieves has a tease
to the fan theory that dieter actually
survived given that we never saw his
death on screen when dieter cracks the
first safe he exclaims
okay mr invincible this specific word
choice implies that dieter survives his
encounter with alpha zombie zeus or at
least that he did in an alternate
timeline of course it could just be some
ironic foreshadowing of his death but
when discussing dieter's fate on a live
stream with the film junkie snyder said
that by the rules of horror if we don't
see a character die that means the
character can always return snyder has
also just revealed that the title of the
army of the dead sequel will be planet
of the dead and heavily implied that
deeta survived and will be returning for
the follow-up movie he also explained
what we can expect from dieter in the
sequel and just before we get into that
as well as some deadly cool easter eggs
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description so for dieta's return in
planet of the dead snyder has said that
the real adventure would be to see what
happened to him when the safe door
closed we don't see him die on camera
and there's still some time left a
plausible way that dieter could have
survived is if zeus decided to keep him
captive in the olympics like he did with
gita rather than bite or kill him dieter
already knew about the imminent nuclear
strike on the city and snyder has said
that there's still some time left so
let's say he escaped zeus's capture and
got through the wall surrounding vegas
the way he came in once he was back at
the quarantine camp he could have
grabbed an abandoned vehicle and got far
enough away for safety before the bomb
landed an alternate way for dieter to
survive would be for a new loop or
timeline to begin after the gerta
damarine closes because remember as
dieter says an army of thieves once all
the locks are solved in order he
believes that the cycle begins anew
snyder's also said that in the sequel
diese's brush with death would cause him
to want to find a jailed gwendolyn the
ending of army of thieves backs up this
idea because although both dieter and
gwen are caught by interpol dieter is
allowed to leave while gwen is arrested
but as he escapes dieter thinks to
himself about how he and gwen will
eventually end up together we would one
day be reunited in the vault of the
guttate dieter's love for gwen also
explains why the locksmith company where
scott and cruz recruit him is called
gwendolyn safe and lockco another detail
about planet of the dead is that in the
official press notes for army of thieves
snyder has basically confirmed that the
zombie outbreak will go international he
says as you go into the next cycle of
films or stories it has an even larger
global reach i think it's intriguing
that he uses the phrase cycle here given
everything we've already discussed about
time loops and cycles by the way snyder
said that because van der rohe is
touching down in mexico city at the end
of the movie if a zombie outbreak occurs
it would be impossible to build a wall
around the mexican capital as they do in
vegas so the virus would inevitably
escape
dieta's dreams and army of thieves also
offer up some fascinating foreshadowing
and predictions of future events in the
army of the dead franchise for instance
after watching a news reporter being
attacked by zombies in vegas he drifts
off and has visions of zombies attacking
him in the corridor of his apartment
building a premonition of the zombies
that will descend on him in the basement
of tanaka's casino in vegas dieter also
has another zombie nightmare of a horde
of shamblers shuffling towards him as he
tries to crack the third wagner safe the
siegfried although the setting is
different the look of the corridor where
the zombies approach is very reminiscent
of the one leading to the gerta damarung
in army of the dead and this time dieter
locks himself in the safe to protect
himself like he did to van der rohe in
the original film perhaps this is how
dieter got the idea to protect his buddy
later on and intriguingly in dieta's
dream a zombie hand from inside the safe
reaches up to grab him foreshadowing how
zeus will grasp him from behind in the
future and when karina comments about
dieter's recurring visions she alludes
to his apparent death in army of the
dead maybe they're prophecies not dreams
maybe you saw your own death and her
comment on the repeating nature of the
nightmares could be another hint to the
franchise's endless loops and cycles you
know you should be that big tough man
and yet again and again they just
destroy you dieter's dreams of zombies
could also imply he's having these
visions because he's already encountered
zombies in a previous time loop if
dieter has already been through the
mission many times before it could
explain how he can hit a target with a
gun on his first try even though he's
supposedly never used one before
like army of the dead army of thieves
keeps it meta by playing around with and
deconstructing heist movie tropes you
know how sometimes in a heist movie they
show a flash forward of how the heist
should work and it never goes according
to plan yes i do know this which feels
like a reference to the army of the dead
meeting with tanaka where diita's
montage imagines how gloriously the
heist will go in vegas with everyone
making it down to the gurta damarang and
safely making it to the helicopter with
all the money a possible additional
interpretation is that these montages
are events that took place in another
timeline or time loop i'm in two minds
about this but it is interesting how the
paris heist ends with dieter apparently
breaking out the heist he sees in his
mind to discover it's already happened
and that's that that's that it cannot be
that easy sebastian is already done
preak will also reveal some interesting
background about the origin of diesel's
name in reality he's actually called
sebastian and ludwig dieter is the name
of a master safe cracker in a comic book
he wrote when he was a child i thought
it was like the coolest name ever he
takes on the ludwig dita alias after he
finds gwen used that name for the fake
passport she made him and apparently
there's another layer of meaning to it
because the name ludwig in german means
famous fighter or warrior andita means
army of the people or warrior of the
people all of which could well point to
dieter's importance in the future of the
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