>> Stephen: PLEASE WELCOME JOSEPH GORDON-LEVITT!
♪ ♪ ♪ ( APPLAUSE )
>> Stephen: HEY, NICE TO SEE YOU.
>> GREAT TO BE HERE.
( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).
>> Stephen: THE LAST TIME-- JOSEPH GORDON-LEVITT-- CAN I
CALL YOU GORDON JEVIT LOUIS.
YOU HAD TWO DIFFERENT KINDS OF SOCKS ON LAST TIME YOU SAW YOU.
>> YOU WERE VERY OBSERVANT.
>> Stephen: AND YOU DID IT AGAIN.
>> I KEPT IT A LITTLE MORE SUBTLE THIS TIME BUT THEY DO NOT
MATCH.
>> Stephen: DO YOU DO THAT FOR SOME PERSONAL REASON YOU'D LIKE
TO SHARE WITH US?
>> I ACTUALLY DO.
NO ONE'S EVER ASKED ME THAT ON TV BEFORE.
YEAH.
MY BROTHER DID THIS, AND IT WAS SORT-- MY BROTHER, WHEN HE GREW
UP, WAS THIS REALLY SORT OF CONSERVATIVE, SHY GUY, AND OVER
THE THE COURSE OF HIS LIFE-- UNFORTUNATELY, HE DIED, LIKE,
SIX YEARS AGO-- BUT OVER THE COURSE OF HIS LIFE, HE BECAME
EXTREMELY EXTROVERTED.
HE DECIDED HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE SHY ANYMORE.
AND ONE OF THE FIRST STEPS TO NOT BEING SHY ANYMOREs WAS HE
STARTED WEARING BRIGHT-COLORED, MISMATCHED SOCKS.
AND IT WAS SORT OF LIKE HIM DIPPING HIS TOE, BECAUSE NO ONE
COULD SEE HIS SOCKS, SO HE DIDN'T HAVE TO SUFFER THE
CONSEQUENCES OF BEING EXTROVERTED AT FIRST.
>> Stephen: SO HE'S LITERALLY DIPPING HIS TOES INTO THE THE
WATERS.
>> YES.
AND I USED TO JUST WEAR BLACK SOCKS BUT THEN I INHERITED HIS
SOCK COLLECTION, AND NOW I ALWAYS WEAR THEM.
>> Stephen: THAT'S A BEAUTIFUL STORY.
>> YEAH, I DIDN'T MEAN TO GET ALL --
>> NO, NOT AT ALL.
DID YOU MEET SNOWDEN?
>> I DID.
>> Stephen: WHERE DID YOU MEET HIM?
>> OLIVER STONE AND HIS COWRITER KAREN FITZGERALD TOOK A NUMBER
OF TRIPS TO MOSCOW WITH HE LIVES --
>> DOES HE LIVE, LIKE, IN A NICE PLACE?
IS HE UNDER-- DO THE RUSSIANS HAVE HIM UNDER GUARD?
>> I DON'T KNOW.
I JUST MET HIM AT AN OFFICE.
I DIDN'T GO TO WHERE HE LIVES.
OLIVER BROUGHT ME ON ONE OF THE TRIPS.
BECAUSE SNOWDEN WAS GIVING LOTS OF FEEDBACK ON THE SCRIPT BUT
OLIVER WANTED ME TO MEET HIM.
AND I JUST SPENT ABOUT FOUR HOURS TALKING WITH HIM, HIM AND
HIS LONGTIME GIRLFRIEND, LINDSEY MILLS, WHO IS PLAYED IN THE
MOVIE BY SHAILENE WOODLEY.
IT'S FUNNY, BECAUSE HE'S ALWAYS TRYING TO TAKE THE ATTENTION OFF
OF HIMSELF AND PUT THE ATTENTION ON THE ISSUES HE WANTS TO TALK
ABOUT.
>> Stephen: TODAY HE TRIED TO PUT THE ATTENTION ON HIMSELF
BECAUSE HE ASKED PRESIDENT OBAMA FOR A PARDON.
>> THAT'S TRUE.
WASN'T TALKIN TALKING ABOUT WHAT HE LIKED TO EAT FOR LUNCH AND
HOW HE WALKED AND TALKED.
THOSE ARE THINGS I WANTED TO PAY ATTENTION TO.
>> Stephen: OH, AS AN ACTOR.
I SEE.
>> HIS PERSONAL THINGS.
>> Stephen: SO DID YOU GET ANYTHING FROM HIM?
>> OH, YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
I MEAN, YOU CAN TELL A LOT ABOUT A PERSON BY JUST HOW THEY SHAKE
YOUR HAND.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN?
( LAUGHTER ) WHOA.
THAT WAS LIMP, DUDE.
>> Stephen: THAT'S THE BEST THING.
YEAH.
( APPLAUSE ) >> HE'S ACTUALLY-- HE WAS
REALLY, HE'S SORT OF OLD FASHIONED IN HIS GOOD MANNER S.
>> Stephen: OH, REALLY?
>> YES, I DIDN'T EXPECT IT.
FOR BETTER OR WORSE THERE'S A STEREOTYPE THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN
GUILTY OF SORT OF FALLING INTO THIS PREJUDICE THAT GUYS THAT
ARE GOOD AT COMPUTERS ARE SOCIALLY AWKWARD.
SO EVIDENCE HALF EXPECTING HIM TO KIND OF, LIKE, YOU KNOW, GIVE
THIS KIND OF HANDSHAKE.
>> Stephen: NO EYE CONTACT.
>> BUT HE REALLY DIDN'T AT ALL.
HE WAS ACTUALLY SORT OF GENTLEMANLY, TO BE HONEST.
AND I WANTED TO-- I DON'T KNOW I WANTED TO PUT THAT INTO THE
PERFORMANCE.
>> Stephen: NOW, DOES HE WANT TO COME BACK?
DID YOU TALK TO HIM ABOUT THAT?
>> DEFINITELY, YEAH.
>> Stephen: WHY DOESN'T HE COME BACK-- DO YOU THINK HE
SHOULD COME BACK AND STAND TRIAL?
>> I MEAN, LOOK, I'M NOT A LAWYER AS FAR AS HOW HE SHOULD
OR SHIPMENT BE PUNISHED -- >> Stephen: BUT YOU'RE AN
AMERICAN.
>> I AM AN AMERICAN.
>> Stephen: YOU'RE AN MURKINAN NAN.
>> I DON'T SAY IT LIKE THAT.
>> Stephen: DEEP DOWN WE'RE ALL AMERICANS.
>> I CAN'T SAY I'M AN AMERICAN.
HERE'S THE THING-- I THINK ULTIMATELY WHAT HE DID IS-- IS--
IT'S, OF COURSE, COMPLICATED, AND I UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE
CONSIDER HIM A CRIMINAL BECAUSE HE BROKE THE LAW.
HE DID.
WHEN HE TOOK CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS AND GAVE THEM TO
JOURNALISTS, THAT WAS BREAKING THE LAW.
BUT THE N.S.A. WAS ALSO BREAKING THE LAW A MILLION TIMES EVERY
DAY AND LYING TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ABOUT IT, AND WE DIDN'T
KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT, UNTIL EDWARD SNOWDEN PROVIDED THE
EVIDENCE.
>> Stephen: TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT.
TWO WRONGS DON'T MAKE A RIGHT.
( APPLAUSE ) JUST BEING THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE,
BEING THE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.
>> HERE'S THE THING, I LAW THEY WERE BREAKING IS IN OUR BILL OF
RIGHTS.
THAT'S IN OUR CONSTITUTION THAT MAKES AMERICA SO GREAT.
IF YOU WANT TO TALK.
BEING AN AMERICAN, WHAT MAKES THIS COUNTRY SO GREAT IS WE HAVE
THESE RIGHTS.
THAT'S A PRIVILEGE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE LIVE IN PLACES ALL OVER THE WORLD THAT DON'T
HAVE THOSE RIGHTS, AND WHEN A GOVERNMENT AGENCY LIKE THE
N.S.A. IS BREAKING THAT LAW AND LYING ABOUT IT.
TO ME, THAT'S SCARY.
THAT'S OUR DEMOCRACY SLIPPING AWAY, AND I'M HAPPY TO STAND UP
AND SAY I'M NOT COOL WITH THIS.
IT'S NOT OKAY.
( APPLAUSE ) >> Stephen: I'M NOT CENSORING
YOUR FREEDOM OF SPEECH, BUT WE'VE GOT TO TAKE A COMMERCIAL
BREAK.
WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE JOSEPH GORDON-LEVITT, STICK
AROUND.