THEIR PEOPLE FOR WAR.
>> Bill: A LOT THE TALK ABOUT
WITH MIKE POMPEO, FORMER
SECRETARY OF STATE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND
GOOD MORNING TO YOU ON THIS
FRIDAY.
THERE WAS A PHONE CALL LAST
NIGHT BETWEEN PRESIDENT BIDEN
AND THE PRESIDENT OF UKRAINE.
THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSION AS
TO WHAT HAPPENED ON THIS CALL.
I DON’T KNOW WHAT THE TRUTH IS.
APPARENTLY THE UKRAINIAN
PRESIDENT SAID CALM DOWN ON THE
MESSAGING.
WHY ARE YOU PULLING YOUR STATE
DEPARTMENT FOLKS OUT OF KIEV?
AND APPARENTLY PRESIDENT BIDEN
TALKED ABOUT GET READY FOR AN
INVASION.
ARE YOU ABLE TO MAKE SENSE OF
THIS FROM AFAR?
>> BILL, IT’S DIFFICULT TO KNOW
WHAT PRECISELY WAS SAID BUT
CONFIDENT PRESIDENT BIDEN TOLD
HIM THE RUSSIANS ARE ACTING IN
A WAY THAT LOOKS LIKE THEY’RE
GETTING TO MAKE AN INCURSION
INTO THE COUNTRY.
I’VE BEEN ON THE PHONE WITH
MANY TIMES WITH THE UKRAINE
PRESIDENT.
WE DEMONSTRATED TO THEM AND
PROVIDE WEAPONS SYSTEMS THEY
NEED.
I HAVE BEEN IN THE SUBWAY
SYSTEM.
THEY WILL FIGHT AND DO THE
RIGHT THING BUT THEY NEED TO
KNOW THAT EUROPE AND THE UNITED
STATES ARE PREPARED TO PROVIDE
THEM THE ASSISTANCE THEY NEED.
THAT’S THE ONLY THING I WOULD
CONVINCE PRESIDENT PUTIN NOT TO
CONDUCT AN INVASION.
WE GOT BEHIND.
FOR EIGHT MONTHS WE SAT ON OUR
HANDS AND ALLOWED PUTIN TO GET
THE UPPER HAND AND WE WERE ON
OUR BACK FOOT IN AFGHANISTAN
AND THE PIPELINE.
PUTIN IS USING COERCION AND
FORCE TO TAKE WHAT HE HAS
WANTED FOR SO LONG.
>> Dana: QUICKLY ON THE PHONE
CALL THAT GOT A LOT OF
ATTENTION DURING THE TRUMP
ADMINISTRATION.
JOE BIDEN DEMANDED THE
PRESIDENT AT THE TIME RELEASE A
TRANSCRIPT OF THE PHONE CALL.
DO YOU THINK THAT IS A GOOD
PRACTICE AND SHOULD THEY
RELEASE A PHONE CALL TO CLEAR
UP ANY DISCREPANCIES FROM LAST
NIGHT?
>> IN THAT CASE WE DID RELEASE
THE CONTENT OF THE PHONE CALL.
BUT THEN I THINK THAT’S A BAD
IDEA.
I THINK PRESIDENTS AND FOREIGN
LEADERS OUGHT TO DO SO IN THAT
AND COUNTERPARTS NEED TO KNOW
THE THINGS THEY SAY WON’T BE
BROADCAST.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT WHAT WAS SAID
AND DEMAND OUR EUROPEAN FRIENDS
AND NATO AND THE U.S. DO TO
HELP THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE.
>> Bill: A LOT OF YOUR FOCUS
WENT TO NORTH KOREA HAVE YOU
SEEN AND TAKEN NOTE OF WHAT
NORTH KOREA HAS DONE IN THIS
YEAR ALONE?
CALL FOR NUMBER FOUR GOING BACK
TO THE 5th OF JANUARY.
THE TEST OF A HYPERSONIC
MISSILE.
ON THE 11th AND ON AND ON IT
GOES, CRUISE MISSILES 25th AND
JANUARY 27 SHORT RANGE
BALLISTIC MISSILES.
IT HAS GONE UNDER THE RADAR OF
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEIR
FOCUS.
WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT NOW?
>> IT’S A GOOD POINT.
WE TALK A LOT ABOUT UKRAINE AND
RUSSIA TODAY.
WE SHOULDN’T FORGET XI IS ABOUT
TO HOST AN OLYMPICS.
NORTH KOREA IS OVER HALF A
DOZEN MISSILES FIRED SINCE THE
BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR.
THE WORLD IS A DANGEROUS PLACE.
WHEN AMERICA IS NOT PREPARED TO
BE RESOLVED AND DO THE RIGHT
THINGS TO PROTECT ITS INTERESTS
THIS IS WHAT AUTHORITARIAN
REGIMES DO.
I WAS IN THE MEETINGS WITH
CHAIRMAN KIM MORE THAN ANYBODY
ELSE THERE WITH THE PRESIDENT.
WE CONVINCED HIM NOT TO CONDUCT
LONG RANGE MISSILE TESTS OR ANY
MORE NUCLEAR TESTS.
HE IS NOT SAYING HE WILL DO
MORE NUCLEAR TESTING.
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU
LEAD FROM BEHIND AND NOT
PREPARED TO DO THINGS THAT
MATTER.
IF YOU ARE SITTING IN KANSAS OR
NEW HAMPSHIRE AND SOUTH
CAROLINA AND FLORIDA AND YOU
WATCH THE UNITED STATES WALK
AWAY.
IF UKRAINE OR NORTH KOREA GOES
WRONG WE’LL HAVE HIGHER ENERGY
PROCESS.
FOOD WILL COST MORE.
MORE INSTABILITY.
WHAT HAPPENS IN BEIJING OR KIEV
DOESN’T JUST STAY IN THOSE
PLACES.
>> Bill: DANA WANTS A QUESTION.
I WANT TO GIVE THIS FOLLOW UP.
DO YOU BELIEVE NORTH KOREA WILL
HAVE HYPERSONIC CAPABILITY VERY
SOON?
OR WHAT IS KIM JUNG UNSAYING
NOW.
PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HE WILL
COME TO THE DMZ.
WHAT DOES HE WANT TODAY?
>> HE WANTS TO CONTINUE TO
BUILD OUT HIS NUCLEAR PROGRAM
TO HOLD AMERICA AT RISK.
HE ISN’T THERE YET.
WE HAVE CAPABLE SYSTEMS.
THE HYPERSONIC TOOLS ARE REAL.
WE TRIED TO GET BACK HEADING IN
A WAY TO PROTECT OURSELVES NOT
ONLY FROM RUSSIA AND CHINA AND
NORTH KOREA.
WE NEED A MISSILE DEFENSE
POSTURE LIKE REAGAN BEGAN TO
BUILD OUT.
>> Dana: I UNDERSTAND THERE
WERE THREE NEGOTIATORS FROM THE
STATE DEPARTMENT WITH IRAN WHO
DIDN’T WANT TO CONTINUE WITH
THOSE NEGOTIATIONS THOUGHT THEY
WERE GOING IN THE WRONG
DIRECTION.
WHAT’S THE STATE OF THE TALKS
WITH IRAN ON THE NUCLEAR DEAL.
>> I DON’T KNOW WHY THEY LEFT.
I HOPE THEY LEFT BECAUSE THEY
COULDN’T STAND APPEASEMENT IN THE SAME WAY I CAN’T STAND IT.
THE SAME WAY I CAN’T STAND IT.
LOOKS LIKE WE’RE ABOUT TO GIVE
THE IRANIANS BILLIONS OF
DOLLARS AGAINST THAT WILL PUT
AMERICA AT RISK.
IT IS DISASTROUS TO THINK WE’LL
GO BACK INTO THE DEAL THAT
PRESIDENT OBAMA STRUCK BACK IN
2015.
>> Bill: IT APPEARS THE HAWKS
ON THE AMERICAN TEAM HAVE HAD
ENOUGH AND THEY ARE THE ONES
WHO SAID WE’RE GONE.
THAT WOULD NOT SEEM TO PORTEND
GOOD NEWS IF YOU WANT TO KEEP
IRAN FROM GOING NUCLEAR.
YOUR VIEW ON THAT IS WHAT?
>> I AGREE.
IT IS NOT GOOD NEWS.
IT APPEARS THIS ADMINISTRATION
IS HEADED DOWN THE PATH OF
TRYING TO RESURRECT THE FAILED
DEAL INSTEAD OF UNDERSTANDING
IRAN WOULD WELCOME MONEY AND
IT’S A DANGEROUS COUNTRY.