>> Charles: GOING TO TRACE
GALLAGHER ON THE EPSTEIN AUTOPSY
REPORTS.
TRACE?
>> YEAH, THE AUTOPSY HAS
DROPPED.
WE'RE BEING TOLD THAT THEY HAVE
RULED, THE MEDICAL EXAMINER, IT
WAS A SUICIDE SAYING THAT
JEFFERY EPSTEIN KILLED HIMSELF
AT 6:30 A.M.
THAT WOULD BE LAST SATURDAY
MORNING AND THAT IT WAS SUICIDE,
THAT HE TIED A BED SHEET TO THE
BUNK IN HIS CELL AND KNELT TO
THE FLOOR.
SO FAR WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY
INFORMATION ABOUT MAYBE
POTENTIALLY HOW HE DID THIS.
ALL IT SAYS IS HE DIED THE BED
SHEET TO THE BUNK AND KNELT TO
THE FLOOR.
THE BIG CONTROVERSY THE PAST
COUPLE DAYS HAS BEEN IF IN FACT
OR HOW IN FACT HE BROKE HIS
HYOID BONE, WHICH IS NEAR THE
ADAM'S APPLE IN MEN.
ACCORDING "THE WASHINGTON POST"
BROKE SEVERAL OTHER BONES.
WE'RE WAITING FOR A HARD COPY SO
WE CAN GO THROUGH IT LINE BY
LINE.
THE HEADLINE IS, THEY'RE RULING
THIS AS A SUICIDE.
THEY HAVE NOT CHANGED THEIR
MIND.
THE QUESTION BECOMES WILL THEY
ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AS TO HOW
HE GOT THESE NUMEROUS BROKEN
BONES.
WILL THEY ANSWER THE QUESTIONS
OF WHAT HAPPENED ON THE OUTSIDE
OF THE NECK.
WAS IT A STRAIGHT BRUISE OR
VARIOUS BRUISES.
JULY 23, EPSTEIN HAD A NUMBER OF
BRUISES ON HIS NECK.
HE SAID HE WAS BEATEN UP BY A
CELL MATE.
THEY STILL RULED THAT AS
SELF-INFLICTED WOUNDS.
THAT'S WHERE THEY PLACED HIM ON
SUICIDE WATCH AND SIX DAYS
LATER, FOR SOME REASON BECAUSE
OF PRESSURE FROM HIS LAWYERS AND
OTHER PROTOCOLS THAT ARE
BAFFLING THE EXPERTS, HE'S TAKEN
OFF OF SUICIDE WATCH AND LAST
WEEK HE WAS FOUND DEAD IN HIS
CELL.
THE QUESTION IS HOW HE GOT THE
FORCE TO BREAK THE HYOID BONE.
THAT'S BEEN A MAJOR POINT OF
CONTENTION.
WE TALKED TO DR. WECHT LAST HOUR
WHEN I FILLED IN ON "SHEPARD
SMITH REPORTING."
HE WAS TELLING US THAT TO
ACTUALLY BREAK THE HYOID BONE,
YOU NEED A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF
PRESSURE, WHICH IS WHY IT'S MUCH
MORE COMMON, CHARLES, IN
STRANGULATION THAN IT IS IN
SUICIDE.
SO WHAT THEY'RE SAYING HERE IS
WHAT IS THE CIRCUMSTANCE TO HOW
HE GENERATED ENOUGH INFORMATION
TO BREAK THAT BONE IN HIS NECK.
YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE THERE.
DID HE FALL OFF THE BUNK, JUMP
OFF THE BUNK, ROLL OFF THE BUNK?
HOW IS IT THAT HE WAS ABLE TO
GENERATE THE FORCE OF BREAKING
THAT BONE?
WE SHOULD NOTE THAT IN OLDER
PEOPLE THE HYOID BONE DOES BREAK
A BIT MORE EASIER THAN IT DOES
IN YOUNGER PEOPLE.
JEFFERY EPSTEIN, 66 YEARS OLD.
5'11."
DID HE JUMP OFF, COULD HE HAVE
GENERATED ENOUGH FORCE TO
ACTUALLY BREAK THAT.
THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT PEOPLE
ARE ASKING.
FOR NOW, IT APPEARS TO BE A
SETELED MATTER, BECAUSE NOBODY
IS GOING TO ADJUDICATE THIS AND
SAY, OKAY, LET'S GO BACK.
WE WANT ANSWERS.
RIGHT NOW THE MEDICAL EXAMINER'S
WORD ON THIS HAS BEEN FINAL.
THEY HAVE RULED THIS AS SUICIDE.
THERE'S AN INVESTIGATION GOING
ON RIGHT NOW IN CONGRESS.
THERE'S AN INTERNAL
INVESTIGATION GOING ON IN THE
PRISON.
THE WARDEN HAS BEEN REASSIGNED.
THE TWO GUARDS THAT WERE THERE,
ONE WASN'T A GUARD, IT WAS A
CORRECTIONALS EMPLOYEE THAT
HAPPENED TO BE HELPING OUT.
THEY WERE APPARENTLY ASLEEP WHEN
THE SUICIDE HAPPENED.
WENT BACK AND TRIED TO FALSIFY
THE DOCUMENTS TO SAY THAT THEY
WERE IN FACT FOLLOWING PROCEDURE
BY CHECKING ON JEFFERY EPSTEIN
EVERY 30 MINUTES.
THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT REMAINS
IS, WHAT HAPPENS NOW.
DO THEY TAKE THIS THING AT FACE
VALUE AND AGREE SUICIDE AND MOVE
ON OR DO THE NUMEROUS ALLEGED
VICTIMS OF JEFFERY EPSTEIN AND
OTHERS WANT TO PURSUE THIS
FURTHER.
THEY WANT TO FIND OUT MORE.
THAT IS WHAT IS YET TO BE SEEN.