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a you know the little girl and and you've spoken about how they're all
these different
Marine is the the frightened child the
the daughter of partisans the the old fellows to spiritually though an old
soul %uh are all these on display during this
definitely the whole display and also like to still a few
little bit of the it'll group you know the people working on this
you know I I really didn't have anything to say apartheid that will fizzle
create and tight cost the in the fall was wonderful
them wonderful contribution because his you know the ball
and the %um the for want to look for a long time and Bob
and the wonderful work into it as well as in hollywood movies
but there was only one choice that ike did I
a small boutique aunt change and this was the the
Antony Hegarty on into Johnson's that he's number two names and I hope into
up into you are you human and no idea he's hiding
and maybe even but you know he creates 11
songs for this plea based on my life and that
he's music and his voice will be
on the replaceable for anything to me because he really deal with the kind of
emotional texture
of two of my life for really express that that all the spiritual
elements and also not just suffering but elevational the suffering
and transformation the last seen so that was important
and individual amino villain was everything feeling was a
my lover and my husband my father
a all general who was the memory the Joker here this
will T functionality and a movie so create the stage
who was separate from the general stage like the just willem
and then you'll sometimes this stage will go up in dollars and sometimes you
come to the main stage go back so you have this
multifunctional interaction with the peace it's quite something and then a
part of this there was also the
few of the the performance of 2 so 4 excel on them
I that was missed you though some did not and then the dancers so is
interesting costs and make sure the different professions
and the the texture is just quite incredible
I mean you spent a lot of time yourself but exposing
yourself as an artist did you feel that um
you learn something about yourself during this whole process
you know the most painful teen was really rehearsals for me because
I when he the all the idea of working was to give
the text and all my diaries an Evite
writings and my walk also the veto the
letting a heads to 22 Bob and to tell him that he does not
any kind of control the I don't have any kind of controlled the material
that he would take whatever he wants and edited the way he wants and put on the
stage
and then he looked all material and say you know what
i'm looking to see what you asked everybody knows so
I'm interest in your life and the life is pretty tragic and then
he said you life is so tragic so expect some slapstick Sultan this
he said is the worst thing if you actually tragic scenes make tragic on
that on that on the scene
because they look like keeps but few think the tragic and make fun of it
the tragedies in the most tragic so this what he was doing
and to me was so hard to be not to actually
redo the scenes because some of them a traumatic experience
I just want to give you a simple example hope he was dealing with material:
a source close to the entire you not entirely hustles
so the 1.material: there was one when those two what experience in my life
that that I
as a child in all I'll never forget and in this
in the heat a talking with the scene and then you say are we going to do the same
saw the scene was like that I was the know it was few scenes
the one was that with my mother and father who had the portable marriage
very violent
and of two twenty years the this day decide for the friends to celebrate 20
is alleged but it was just the kind of arson the front the public not really
real
and then in the kitchen when the everybody left my father never do
anything the kitchen but this time he discovered
that you want to watch something buses so I was there with a little taller
sixteen-years-old
waiting for the fathers to was the closet and right and the first started
talking broke
and in that moment mother entered the room and then he was standing there with
broken glass
my mother starts screaming that this broken glass present the marriage is not
he was looking and this is how it is horrible and this is
you know what the situation is and Houston and does this tension in the
situation that he
stand with the broken glass and I'm standing with the tall and you never
know all
if can something horrible that to happen and she's going on in on for forty
minutes
and then total silence you don't move and then one point
he Oscar unfinished she say yes
then she it took 11 losses won we won just throw them on the floor like this
and then use it to her I could not miss this in love
11 more times so
sounds good don't see he left fine
so the movie is something the scene an Oscar %um to fall to repeat the scene 11
times
well I have to loosen his every hustle I'm completely free from the scene
I am cute I it's like
psychoanalysis use because a
yeah I think did to you when he said that to you that your life is so tragic
did you feel that way yourself joan was very unhappy as a child but you know I
use this material and I
work with the sand and I'd take you a very happy person right now
her but this takes long time to get to the f2p forty years I gotta tell you
no cycle is this just warped you you what you have to do what happened in
this theater piece
it was that the wove you some hold the key
to take something so personal like my life turnaround
and made universal for everybody else in the public
looking at that that seems actually you can find yourself
in every this little seems somehow somebody quit his own life
says the biography for everybody else and that's important to me
you talk about pain and how you've creatively
use this um but you've also
pain is very an essential element in all your work
and you you've talked about how happiness is not creative
no so is it it impossible to i mean
happiness is is a very basic human
but it's also a very basic human a motion that we all you know pure joy
is a pit there's no well there for art to draw on
ok what you can do with happiness you happy the need to do anything
you do that obsolete to do anything this resulting you know
you want from suffering and unhappiness and the in frustrations and on balance
in all these things
you know to create again his Bolles world but when you're in bonn small dan
Ewing happy state
this the state was wonderful do you don't need to create from that state's
why so our people who haven't
suffered not able to do art
within South I think people so personal to make her PR but maybe doesn't change
the old
her test she doesn't do anything to anybody
%uh I mean really it's its its it's a very interesting team like
I really love this you know I love this tsk this amazing
amazing description all the above the epileptic a talk
of the one of his main caught up to see in the ED LTE do you ever
me this which is incredible describing the state's
just before this puppy left it got a comms and he said
that the state's it's like the kind of them moment of complete
illumination when you head this a good feeling
of luminosity Bala's and completes
the kind of harmony a new body it so involved in this
and experience is so strong that you actually
con do with that is too much and then turned to poet be left to go to work
you seen sometimes happiness you have to take in the small dosages
from do you think how much of that that worldview do you think
a relates partially to the culture that you grew up in because I think
a I think there is it people would get
you know a stereotype let's say America would be that that's a very different
view than Americans
have that there have a much more positive are optimistic but still
suspended
in the most %uh you all think even the most talented kids ahead still to be
different
know we all but I G I mean this loving souls
we we you know is this you have to suffer not just for yourself
universe generally and everything is very difference though
well and actually I did that very last line that Willem Dafoe says in that
little clip
is about to you feel you need to take on all our guilt
you know that it's like the universe is killed the world's killed
you do her be there for her head
hum at and I wanna talk about your childhood for just a moment because
its it does some live it sounds very harrowing and
a you talked about the relationship with your mother
which was a childhood that involve no hugging
or kissing no love um
it's because really you not my mother was national hero by the way my father
was a national hero
I mean you know D could the there was no intimacy it told me we have to such as
life for the higher cause which is not just all private
so you know life soul when I asked my mother
when I was much more grown up it was in my 30s
and ask them her but why you never kiss me when I was child
she was so surprised with this question really honestly so of course not to
spoil you
nevermind the cement damage in my muscle I but racist yet
this was rail she'd she never email do this
and in a way you know she make new work of art and
appreciate right now gray and is interesting how the the
when bob was the last me to play my mother and myself those really shock for
me
to play my mother was the last thing I was spectacle VT soma summarize my
mother in to just 34 gesture
one was just one thing that was you know topping the
are that is slow the sport steps come so far away
and slurping on the face I'm the
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