Now notion hasn't just caught the attention of day-to-day users
It is impressed teams around the world a few that we got to visit
We met a start-up cocoon yet to be released their team consists of Alex and Sachin
So we sat down with them to discuss how they use notion
Cocoon recently achieved funding from Y Combinator
A popular investment back here here in the US and they use notion to help them achieve this. Yeah. So cocoon is a
dedicated space to keep one small third close over time and distance
So it's just a single space on your thumb just for this. Yeah. Well, so I think in the
olden days
Especially you would definitely crave like this really long slide deck and that would be what you would go and use as your memories materials
Send it out to investors and use it for your presentations. We actually just used notions
we've created a page and we made a publicly accessible link and
We had all of our material on there and it was great visuals. We have our data we have nice narratives
and we
Never made it
all of our
Notion is being used by many others to get things done the busy work lives and personal lines
we bumped into David Pearson of the Wall Street Journal for a coffee now for those who don't know David wrote a
Fantastic article in the early days of notion covering the news debt
It was launched and we also did a feature with him here in a channel
So it's awesome to meet him in person during the time in San Francisco
We also got the opportunity to do a small and meet up with
notion users from an ocean made simple group
We met Skylar
Alex sumo and Michael Amir Joel had the opportunity to grab a coffee to discuss how we all use notion
It was amazing to see the different and various uses of motion and Alex uses it with her nonprofit
which has 90 members insider and Michael actually organizing his
Skyla, used it to organize his personal life and the same would sumo but with his new and upcoming startups
So the use of it was pretty incredible. So next up was Simon
Now Simon is notions other co-founder and works now as head of product on a team
He spent a lot of time with Ivan in the early days back in
2015 and continues to work alongside him today on notions do path
Well, ok so
Originally, I was originally a third co-founder ok this guy
Toby Shakman
and
I I met Toby on Twitter originally because we had a mutual interest in visual programming languages and kind of
Democratizing programming. So at the time I was obsessed with making
Visual programming environments for children. Yeah, and until he was kind of making like visual programming environments for artists
and so I was a fan of his him in on Twitter and then I
I was out here for an internship in the South Bay and
Within a couple hours of meeting
Toby and I've been having it convinced me to quit the internship and to
Spend at least the rest of the summer working on ocean and then a couple weeks after that I decided to
drop out of school and
Conditioner since
That was much later
yeah, yeah, there's a whole prehistory of notion in which so I mean in the
In the early days, we didn't really know we were doing at all
I mean, yeah, and no she was much more of a research project then then I company really yeah
All we were really working from was kind of a vague
Aspiration to like democratize programming democratize computing in some way. Yeah and
we built a few prototypes along those lines that
Weren't really good products, but we're kind of interesting. Yeah in some ways
Yeah, it took us a long time to narrow in on kind of documents, you know
wiki all the all the more practical
So sort of the practical
business
Focus of it. Yeah
Simon's day-to-day work is mainly on product
when when people come to our office, they often say that it's
simultaneously relaxed but also very intense and
And I really like that contradiction. I think it kind of sums up a lot about us
Where we're very relaxed and open
and comfort with each other but also, you know, very focused on what we're trying to accomplish and
You know, even though we have an open office
Sometimes it's like a librarian either because we're all you know drilling away work on that. We're trying to accomplish. Yeah
It's good thing that's definite how people work anyway, and then how do you
Use the Web Clipper probably 20 times a day yeah on my phone especially
Whenever someone tells me about something in a conversation I try to actually write down
Otherwise, it just flips out of your mind. Yeah, so I have I have a database for movies
links books
Video games to play and I have kind of a
Personal brain I did bass. We're just keep all my notes. Yeah
Yes, yeah I actually run Tomatoes better
Notion is slowly finding itself into the pockets of many professional students teams and
Innovators looking to manage their day-to-day work and life
so hopefully this has captured a bit of an idea of the feel around notion at the moment and how it's
Impacting people's lives and they seem to be making progression month by month
With new updates and feature requests being shipped pretty routinely it's safe to say notion is heading in the right direction
but what does Ivan believe notions future lies so go for the future for notion well,
What there's a still a long way to go?
For us to even partially realize the romance that law ever want to create their own software in the ocean
So we're just getting started and some things towards that directions are
More integrations, you know
API is another big one. So we want to take our time and build it right and
And in general, we just want to make notion to be faster and lighter. No, we want to be the first destination
whenever you have an idea to capture for yourself or for your business and
From there and you can customize your workflow
So of course notion is in its early days their future range is expansive
But can lack total
Optimization for someone looking for example for a specialist note-taker or an advanced task manager
The notion are adding features and it can be shaped to any of your needs
They're listening to their customers and they have a new market to play with the module of productivity space
So I see good things for the future and excited to see where they go
Thank you to the notion team for hosting me for the week
And there will be a couple of spin-off videos from this guys for example a full chat and sit down with co-founder Ivan
Also a few interviews with the team members that you might enjoy
So I will be putting up a few more resources in the next couple of weeks
So please check the description
Become a subscriber on key productive and check out our resources for notion so that you can get up to scratch with this new software
Thank you so much for watching and have a smashing week. I really hope you enjoyed this documentary
It's the first one I've ever done. So let me know if you have any feedback
And of course, I will definitely take that all on board. Thank you so much and I'll see you guys very very soon chit