♪♪ >>> BOY, WE HAVE GOT AN
EMBARRASSMENT OF RICHES WHEN IT COMES TO HOLLYWOOD STARS ON THE
SHOW. AND THEY DON'T COME BIGGER THAN
OUR NEXT TWO GUESTS. THEY STARRED IN OUR FAVORITE
MOVIES BUT NEVER TOGETHER UNTIL NOW.
WE TALK ABOUT SUSAN SARANDON AND NAOMI WATTS.
>> IT'S ABOUT ONE FAMILY'S CHANGING DYNAMICS, OVER THE
COURSE OF THREE GENERATIONS. AND WHAT HAPPENS WHEN
60-YEAR-OLD RAY, WANTS TO TRANSITION, FROM FEMALE TO MALE.
SUSAN SARANDON, NAOMI WATTS. GOOD MORNING.
>> GOOD MORNING. >> IT'S A MUST-SEE.
WHAT TOOK YOU SO LONG TO WORK TOGETHER?
I MEAN, IT WAS JUST -- >> USUALLY ONLY ALLOW ONE GAL
PER FILM. AND THEN, YOU HATE EACH OTHER
AND YOU'RE NOT IN THE SAME SCENES.
>> IN ALL SERIOUSNESS, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE GENDER ISSUES
ARE VERY TOPICAL. AND YOU LEARN A LOT, WHEN YOU
WATCH THIS FILM. >> ONE OF THE REASONS IT
APPEALED TO US, IT WAS SO ACCESSIBLE.
IT'S NOT A DOCUMENTARY. BUT IT DOES BRING UP A LOT OF
THE FEARS THAT A PARENT WOULD HAVE, A LOT OF CONCERNS.
AND THIS AMAZING, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE SPECIFICS, THAT A KID
WOULD BE GOING THROUGH. AND PLUS, ANOTHER SUBPLOT.
AND SO, YOU DO FIND OUT A LOT. BUT IT'S ALSO KIND OF FUNNY.
IT'S KIND OF LIKE A SITCOM ABOUT -- IN A WAY.
I'M SO STUPID IN IT, REALLY. I ASKQUESTIONS.
AND I HAVE ALL OF THE DISCONCEPTIONS.
SHE'S THE MOM. --
>> WE'RE GOING THROUGH IT IN OUR DIFFERENT WAYS ON DIFFERENT TIME
PROGRAMS. SO, IT JUST CAN RELATE TO EVERY
PERSON, I THINK, IN TERMS OF THEIR SCHEDULES.
>> IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE THIS IS A MOVIE THAT'S HOPPING ON A
TRANSGENDER BANDWAGON. IT FEELS LIKE A REAL STORY WITH
REAL PEOPLE. >> WE'RE HOPING THAT IT CAUSS
SOME KIND OF DISCUSSIONS. I'M HAPPY I WOULD GO OUT TO A
FILM WITH MY KIDS AND WE'D BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT SOMETHING,
DAYS LATER, EVEN. AND I THINK IT'S THAT KIND OF A
THING BECAUSE IT BRINGS UP A LOT.
SHE DOES THIS -- SHE GOES FROM BEING THIS GEEKY GIRL TO BEING
THIS POWERHOUSE. AND REALLY SHOWS YOU HOW MUCH IT
MEANS TO HER. HIM AT THAT POINT.
>> I WAS ONLY 16 WHEN SHE SHOT THIS.
WHAT DO YOU THINK IT WAS LIKE FOR HER TO TAKE ON THIS
DEMANDING ROLE? >> I THINK SHE EMBRACED IT
FULLY. SHE DID A LOT OF RESEARCH.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO READ, GREAT DOCUMENTARIES AND THINGS
AVAILABLE. SHE HAS KIDS IN HER SCHOOL,
FULLY TRANSITIONED. SHE MET WITH KIDS THAT, YOU
KNOW, BECAME VERY, VERY HELPFUL THAT WE KNEW WE WERE CONNECTED
THROUGH THE PRODUCERS, AS DID I, WITH ONE OF THE MOMS WHO HAD
GONE THROUGH IT. YOU KNOW, WE WERE ALL GOING
THROUGH IT IN OUR DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND IT JUST, THERE'S SO MUCH HUMANITY AND SO MUCH HEART.
AND THE FAMILY IS UNITED, NO MATTER WHAT.
THERE'S TIMES WHEN THEY STRUGGLE.
>> IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO TALK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OF
SUPPORT OF THE FAMILY. THAT PLAYS A HUGE PART IN THE
SURVIVAL OF A PERSON THAT'S TRANSITIONS TO HAVE THE SUPPORT
OF THEIR FAMILY SUICIDE RATE IS MUCH, MUCH, MUCH, MUCH LOWER.
AS SHE SAID, ABOUT EVERYBODY THAT'S TRANSITIONING WITH HER IN
A WAY. >> WHAT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN
YOU WALK ABOUT -- WHEN YOU WORK ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
AND THEN, YOU TRANSITION IN BETWEEN DIFFERENT ROLES, LIKE
FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'RE DOING "FEUD."
YOU HAVE THE TV SERIES, "FEUD." WORKING WITH ANOTHER STRONG
ACTRESS. IT'S SO GREAT TO SEE.
>> THAT WAS LIKE JOINING A CULT IN A WAY.
IT WENT ON FOREVER. AND IT WAS RYAN'S WORLD.
AND JESS HAD BEEN IN THAT WORLD THESE REALLY HUGE PEOPLE TO TAKE
ON. I WAS TERRIFIED.
I WOULD SAY FOR FIVE WEEKS I COULDN'T GET THE FEAR/FUN RATIO
IN MY FAVOR. >> YOU AND JESSICA LANGE.
>> JESSICA WAS GREAT TO WORK WITH.
AND IT WAS SUCH AN EXTRAORDINARY EXPERIENCE.
AND I'M HAPPY IT'S OVER. >> DID YOU -- YOU NEVER
REALLY -- >> EVERYBODY IS LOVING IT.
I'M GOING TO DINE OUT ON THAT. IF I SEE IT, I'LL JUST BE
THINKING, OH, I SHOULD HAVE DONE THAT BETTER.
I'M GOING TO GO WITH EVERYBODY'S POSITIVE REACTION.
AND JUST DELUDE MYSELF. >> IT WAS WATER COOLER
CONVERSATION. DID YOU SEE "FEUD"?
>> YOU CAN TALK ABOUT IT. >> SUSAN SARANDON, NAOMI