That term groomer, a lot of people don't like that term online, they're very upset,
but they're real, they're our groomers, you don't like it, do you not like it
because you don't want children to be groomed, or do you not like it because
it's a majority of that's used against the left, which is I think more likely.
Well, here's what's more important, not have people groom your kids,
that's what's more important than you getting uncomfortable with this word,
because it's used by people on the right.
>> Joe Rogan doesn't understand why some people would have a problem with
the usage of the word groomer as the right wing in America incessantly uses that
type of terminology to inaccurately describe people they disagree with.
Mr, I want to protect free speech.
Mr, I want to make sure that people have their voices heard,
apparently loves to provide cover for right wingers, who immediately
go out of their way to defame people as groomers when there's no evidence
indicating that there groomers, but he's good friends with Alex Jones who
had no problem defaming the parents whose children were gunned down in Sandy Hook.
So I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
So, as you guys can see,
Joe Rogan went on a rampage because he had a right winger sitting across from him.
So of course he had to get down on his knees and
fileted him as he usually does when he has right wingers on his podcast,
and he just decided to completely misrepresent why it is that some people,
myself included have a problem with how that word is used,
not a problem with the word in and of itself, but
how that word is used as a tool politically to intimidate to shut down
to shut up any political opposition to right wingers in America.
That is the problem.
Let's hear more from his ridiculous, insane, ignorant argument.
Let's listen.
>> As an argument, someone who I think is an intelligent person say that there
should be a block against using the word groomer.
>> Unbelievable.
>> No no there should be no groomers.
How about that?
And this is what they wrote, they said not all teachers are groomers but
a lot of groomers are teachers.
>> There you go.
>> And that's real.
Constantly teachers are getting arrested for exposing himself to children, for
masturbating in front of children, for sending nude pictures in front of children
every couple of days there's a new one that pops up in the news and how many of
those people haven't been caught yet and how many of those people are out there and
how many of those people are doing it under the guise of, I'm an LBGTQ educator.
>> So that's what it is.
See when you surround yourself with people who fear monger about educators and
the LGBTQ community simultaneously, all of a sudden you believe all these little
fantasy stories about teachers, the prevalence of teachers serving as groomers
within the public education system because that's exactly what happened.
All those powerful teachers, all that good, pay all those benefits they
get they're so powerful, they use their position of power to groom kids.
Now look, I don't know specifically what he's referring to is like every
couple of days there's a story of a teacher doing this or
that the teacher is masturbating in front of students, not only should he or
she be fired, they should go to prison for that.
Okay. No one is disagreeing with him on that,
but let's also talk about the fact that Joe Rogan spoke to one person who
allegedly told him that he or she doesn't like the word groomer and
he's now decided to needlessly make a blanket statement about everyone on
the left wanting to ban the use of groomer.
Let me just be abundantly clear right now,
I don't care about the existence of the word groomer.
I do care about how it's used specifically to get innocent people fired,
innocent teachers fired by the way, who might see that they have a gay student
who might have a transgender student and they want to create a welcoming and
comfortable environment for that student so they don't feel like they're out of
place, they don't feel like they've been disenfranchised in the classroom.
And the right wing will point to teachers like that who foster a loving and
welcoming and tolerant environment and say groomer, groomer, that person's a groomer.
That person is actually nice to a group of people that I hate because of
my theocratic nonsense I hate them, I despise them, so
I'm going to call those teachers, groomers.
They use the same thing by the way, when it comes to anyone who holds a political
view that differs from the right wing there, groomers, this is Q and
on garbage, which unbelievably has now expanded to the point where the guy
with the largest podcast in the country has fallen victim to their nonsense and
repeats it on his show.
Okay, Joe let me help you out.
Okay. Joe, I suspect you're a groomer,
I've seen your stand up, I've seen your specials,
you make some jokes I don't like and so I think you might be a groomer,
let's start a hashtag is Joe Rogan a groomer?
Groomer, I think you're a groomer.
What? You don't like that?
You want me to stop calling you a groomer?
No, this guy has completely fallen off, so embarrassing.
It honestly hurts to watch.
>> Okay, can we acknowledge hashtag Jake was right?
He's a right winger, he got guests captured, audience captured,
he got whatever it was, he got mind captured and
so look, let's break it down, it's super simple.
He says people are trying to block the use of the word groomer,
completely >> Who?
>> Not true. >> Yeah who?
>> Yeah, not at all true, he made that up.
Okay.
And where did he get it from?
Guaranteed it was one of his right wing friends that I told him that and
he doesn't think so he thought, that must be true.
They're trying to block the use of the word.
No Joe it's very simple.
The question is, is it true or is it not true?
Not whether the word should exist or not.
So that goes to Ana's point.
So if you have a teacher that's actually a groomer for
God's sake out them let's fire them.
I know it's cancel culture.
You right?
Sometimes it makes sense to fire people, right?
Yeah of course.
If the teacher is actually a groomer is hitting on the kids of course you
should fire them.
Right? We all agree to that.
I don't know because you might then turn around and call it cancer culture.
Okay. So but if someone is not doing that and
if they're just like the example you gave LGBTQ.
And you call them a groomer when they're not,
can you not see how terrible that is, how you're defaming them,
how you're smearing them and you're doing it based on who they are.
You can't see that that's a terrible phenomenon?
Okay then I agree with Ana.
Look Joe Rogan does a podcast.
There's a lot of young people listening to that podcast.
I don't know if he's sleeping with any of them.
I don't know if he's doing the podcast to groom them.
So, but I'm sure that Joe Rogan is not going to mind him being
called a groomer of young children because he doesn't want the word blocked.
Do you see how stupid that line of logic is?
And the answer is [CROSSTALK] He probably doesn't know.
Okay. >> No he doesn't.
So let's help him out.
Let's help him out because I mean, apparently outside of his right wing
podcast bubble, he's completely unaware of where the real groomers reside.
So let me help you out, Joe.
Let's talk about the real groomers.
Let's talk about the fact that it's the right wing in America
that is forcing women who have been raped to carry to term that rapist baby.
Okay. Who cares if she got raped?
It is the right wing in America, which has historically, and
probably till this day justifies marital rape.
They don't think that a wife can be raped by her husband.
Okay. They've been defending that for
as long as I can remember.
It is the right wing in America that is consistently covered
up sexual abuse towards students, towards children.
In fact, I mean let's talk about Jim Jordan who covered up
allegedly sexual abuse, sexual misconduct that was carried out
by the wrestling coach when Jim Jordan was an employee at Ohio state.
Why did he cover up the rape alleged rape
the alleged sexual abuse of a wrestling coach?
Wrestlers were allegedly going to Jim Jordan asking him for help and
he basically told them to shut up.
You like that groomer?
I mean, it seems like Joe Rogan likes to provide cover for those groomers,
which makes me question is Joe Rogan a groomer.
Let me give you more Matt Gates, a Republican lawmaker is being investigated
by the Justice Department for paying an underage person for sex, 17 year old.
Is he a groomer?
I don't know.
Is he ok with you?
Apparently the problem is the LGBTQ community.
Okay.
And the left for asking, hey,
can you please stop defaming people who are not groomers as groomers?
Can you please stop doing that?
But no, no, no apparently it's the right wing can do whatever it wants and
Joe Rogan will always provide cover.
There's always the good boys and girls and the left, they're bad, they're so bad.
I mean, if I can recall correctly Jake in terms of systematically abusing children,
a lot of that happened on the right wing with, I don't know the catholic church and
stuff like that.
No, but it's the left that's the problem right, Joe?
It's the left.
And for all the leftists who also love to fill eight Joe Rogan because they're so
desperate to go on his show and
get a few clicks on whatever content they're putting out there, please grow up,
grow a pair and learn how to stand up for people who have no power.
Unbelievable.
>> So, our members are all saying this evening, those,
your science wrote in Catholic Church.
But by the way guys, it's not just the Catholic Church,
almost all the religious leaders as a percentage have done these type of things.
And so whether it's the Muslim fundamentalists in Afghanistan have
the hazara boys, whether it's a Catholic Church that had tons and
tons of actual groomers, pedophiles, they covered it up or you get into and
it's certainly true mainline Christians,
every single religion has it because they give them unchecked power.
They say no, no, no, no, no,
no, no you can't question those authoritarian leaders.
Okay, just like the right wing wants with Trump and other political leaders in
terms of the politics, there's no question Dennis has the former Speaker of the house
for the Republicans was a literal child molester went to jail for it.
Jim Jordan unquestionably covered up child molestation,
according to allegations of dozens of the wrestlers at his school.
And so, I mean, that is as close to a definition of groomer as possible, but
the word originated is in terms of a line of attack from the all right, all the way
back when they used a fake charge against Sam Seder when he was on MSNBC.
And, we showed you at the time, the right wing saying online,
let's just call all the of our opponents pedophiles it doesn't matter if they
are it'll just make them toxic and it'll show up at the top of their google search.
So it is a coordinated strategy to smear people who are not who are not
child molesters while actually protecting the worst of the worst
including Donald Trump, who very brazenly said publicly,
Jeffrey Epstein likes them young [LAUGH] Well Donald Trump knew for
a fact that Jeffrey Epstein was a child molester and he laughed about it.
You want to talk about a groomer.
So, now look the last thing that is really important.
You see what he said there at the end.
The teachers are bad.
I told you they were going to do a war on teachers.
They are.
Everything is being blamed on the teacher's, not the bankers,
not the oil executives, not all those guys who are funneling tons and
tons of bribes to our politicians.
But the real problem in the country's teachers that's the kind of monsters these
people are.
But then you get to the LGBTQ community and he's like you think it doesn't happen.
These guys they do all these things like masturbate in front of the students and
they do it under the guise of being LGBTQ.
Do they Joe?
Do they?
Show me one story where that happened when a teacher masturbated in front of
the class and they said it's okay I'm LGBTQ and then they weren't fired and
we say it's okay, he's LGBTQ.
Show me one story you effing liar that never ever ever happened.
And by the way I know for a fact that the great majority of the pedophiles whether
they're in the school or not and in the churches are straight.
Is that the impression your audience got?
No. Your audience got the impression that it's
gay people that are doing it because you told them that even though it's the exact
opposite of what is true.
Now, are you really concerned about the kids or
are you more concerned about smearing LGBTQ people and
going it's the gay people that are doing it even though it's a goddamn lie.
You're hateful person and you've always hated the trans community.
Now you spread your hate to more and you put out the poison every day and
now smearing all of them as groomers.
You disgust me.
So [CROSSTALK] >> Listen, they opened the floodgates.
Yeah they opened the floodgates.
They opened the floodgates.
The left the right wing has created this trend of referring to anyone they don't
like anyone they disagree with as a rapist as a groomer.
Okay let's have at it then let's have at it.
Sure anyone we don't like let's go ahead and just call them a groomer.
>> Yeah hey I don't want to block the word.
>> Garbage argument by Rogan absolute garbage.
>> I don't want to block the word Anna, okay.
And so Joe.
>> Let's use it more.
>> Yeah. >> Let's use it more.
>> So. >> Let's use it exactly how the right
wing uses it.
>> Anna I got a last question for you.
Look, given that Joe Rogan seems to be purposely blaming people who didn't do it,
I wonder if he's covering up for things he did.
It's as a distraction.
>> [INAUDIBLE] I don't know.
>> Maybe that's why he's blaming gay people in general for
things they didn't ever do.
I mean, you probably maybe have a guilty conscience and
you probably want somebody to look somewhere else.
It does make you really wonder, is Joe Rogan a groomer,
has he done this to little children?
>> We're just asking the question.
We're just asking questions and it's a word, free speech.
>> And I hope he's not offended.
>> Free speech.
>> He's not offended.
So we're just asking the question.
We're just wondering if you're a groomer.
Just wondering Look we got to go.
>> I don't know how many children Joe Rogan might have molested.
I don't know what the number is.
I don't know if it's in the dozens.
I don't know why he's covering it up so much, but
people have a right to know how much of a groomer and pedophile is Joe Rogan.
I don't know.
We'll have to find out