I'm buckling up my seat belt for because I feel like I could
get, you know, a lot of stuff here. Throwing at my Throne my
way. I'm gonna eliminate could. Yeah, and say well, okay, Jalen
hurts. Yes, Jalen hurts at number 25. That's where he is
coming in. No doubt about it. All right,
Jalen hurts.
Where do I want to start? The first thing is, you know,
again, you know, my my pecking order or the things I use to
evaluate. Hey, pure, physical ability,
decision, making smart looking to the
Field, right, decisions. All that, you know,
leadership, you know, effect on the football team and then
pocket presence or my for things there. Jalen hurd's has
has some things there that are at an elite level.
I mean, first off his effect on go ahead. You want to jump in
right away. Go ahead. Throw it right there. This is a big one
being. They're all big. They're all big, but but this one's
controversial. This one's big controversial. Yeah, because he
wasn't rated last year, right? So let's start with the fact
that he
didn't make the list last year. Yeah,
15 spots higher than 40. He's a 25.
Year, so I know a lot of thought went into this one. Yeah,
so let's just start with.
Okay, wasn't rated last year.
Here. He is this year. How come? Yeah, well, I was wrong
last year. I think that's fair to say. I mean, I definitely,
he was one of those first few guys, off my list. I had
questions about them.
I know the way the 2020 season ended, I just went on, I'm not
sure, I'm not sure he can do it. All right, prove to me. He
can do it.
But within that, I didn't come away watching every genuine
hurts throw from last year. Anything going
Oh, he's definitely the future. That's they got it. There's no
doubt about it. I was totally wrong. I think they feel tell
me too. Yeah, I think so.
I think they've told us that without telling them telling us
that they're hopeful and I think what they're telling you
to is a little bit. What I started off saying, there's
some things they see about him. Where you go, man. I like that.
This guy's my starting quarterback. Yeah,
you know, and one, the first thing I will say is leadership
personality effect on the football team. It is real. It's
because been there everywhere, he's been no doubt worries. He
is a presence on the field. Is a presence behind
the microphone? I think he gives a team confidence in the fact
that, you know, he is so humble and
steadfast and works on his craft and never makes excuses.
And I love that about Jalen hurts. There's no doubt about
it, you know, decision-making seeing the field. It's not bad.
It's pretty good. I don't come away watching Jalen hurd's
throw. I mean,
you know decisions in the pocket and go man. There was
a lot of dumb dumb plays
or man. I'm just how did he not see that guy or whatever?
I didn't come away. Saying that a lot, not at all. No, physical
ability.
Hey, we know God can run. It's real. He can extend plays do
things. They're certainly but
physical ability. Also talks about throwing the ball, right?
And throwing the ball is below, average NFL, starting
quarterback quality. And I think that's that's the big
thing here. And that's where he is at 25. That's a big reason
in the pocket. He's pretty damn good,
but the throwing
is definitely less than.
And that's why, you know, from now and where we're at. I Put
them any higher than 25 right now and in my good conscience,
because there's some things
that I need to see first before I can start to go.
Oh, it's coming or it's around the corner. We're closed.
You know, just got one leg.
No, I'm I got to see more. We're not there yet to me
going. Oooh, it's close. Right? And, and, you know,
again, I think the season
itself speaks to that a little bit and challenge people to go
back and watch and go, you know, again,
they're not putting it on. In Jalen hurd's. But I think
you'll understand this. Hey early in the year, the first
half of the year.
They tried to play a balanced approach. Let's kind of play
through the quarterback and are on more. I'm playing through
the drop back pass game and they did that and they were not
very good.
They were not. They were three and six
and they were lucky to be 3 and 6 of that really
to a degree, probably shouldn't have beat Carolina in Carolina.
So then what happened? They said well we can't play this.
A.
Why can't they play This Way? Well, the guy we have playing
is good, but he's not going to dice people up with in
the pocket and do that type of stuff. So we need to make our
offense more centered and featured around something else.
Yep,
and then make that his throwing in the pocket,
you know, the second the third, the fourth thing we do that's
some importance to our offense and that's where you saw things
change around. And to me that's a big part of why I got him at
25 so much there. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm sorry, too.
It's all good. I mean, I
like a lot of People tuned in. I just want to listen for
a couple minutes and thank you. As I said before, this is one.
I know you put a lot of thought in all of them. This is a big
one here. So
just a couple things to fill in blanks, right? They lost three
out of four to start the season. Yes, they were not any
good at all. No, they became kind of a running team. Number
one rushing team in the NFL. Yes, right. And he did a nice
job being kind of like the one a right to the to the running
game, right? Being number one. So
my question kind of goes back to a feeling I had
must have been in January watching them in the playoffs
31 nothing. It's
Exactly, right? It was it was as non-competitive right of
a playoff game is, you'll see a lot of that. Had to do with me.
Tom Brady had his way. They had no chance on offense.
So can he get to where he needs to be with the team and like on
this list? Can he move inside the top 20 with that formula
that got him tonight in 8-bit got him in the playoffs, but
they were complete non-factor.
Is this a formula
that will let the team get better? Yeah,
and we'll let him
kind of improve and
maybe show some things that he hasn't. I think it
it's you don't abandon that formula. You had at the end of
the year, right reason they might on, right? You stay with
that and then I think to your point and where you're going
here is
within that, you hope we stay there and then
the things that Jalen hurd's isn't the best that we continue
to develop and get better to wear can maybe catch up by late
November and December and now you start to go. Oh wait, we
are playing a great defense this week that we can't just
run the ball on every time. Yeah, but
he's grown a lot over here. The last 10 or 12 weeks.
We actually we can
The ball 35 times against this team and expect to win. And
that's where they're hoping to get, right? Because they when
they were winning and mean
it's nice to see any team win. And especially after they put
it back together after losing, but we're kind of trained to
look at it with a critical eye and say, okay, but what, what
if this, why aren't they doing this?
They were routinely throwing for less than 200 yards in
their winning. Yes, which at, which is hard. It's hard to do
in the end. It's hard to maintain, right? You have
a team of great team, right? See that's where I would question.
That's where I'm letting everybody know
like Again, for my process here. We're all on the same
team.
Yeah, we're not on the eagles with the best offensive line in
football. We're not, we're all on the same team. It's all
everybody has the same offense. We got a little bit of
everything. We got a few Run game, design plays and all
that. We got to take care of our
mobile quarterbacks in that.
But within that, yes, I mean,
again, I just go.
I'm not sure that we're talking about, jianlin hurts, you're
having that type of success. If we don't have some of
the things here with the team. That really helped him along
and maybe make it look a little bit better than a really is
to the public. And the perception that's out there
because of some of the things you're talking about with
how dominant they were in that area and the style of play that
they play down the stretch, right, AJ Brown,
a James Brown. Great. He's awesome. No doubt. That's
I think listen, they're gonna be able to put some people in
the mind. That's where you talk about the formula, you're
talking about, and can they continue that? And yes, they
should continue it and you hope Jalen hurd's
continues to evolve.
Of is because menu run the ball. The way they run the ball
dominate people that way.
Jalen hurts keeps the ball on a few run plays and you do that.
You're going to get people into a bind of going. Damn. We gotta
play Devante Smith and AJ Brown one-on-one outside. We can't
stop, you know, 26 power when the backside guard pulls and
they block down block down and kick somebody out.
We can't stop it against this team.
So now we got to bring another guy in the box and we're
playing man-to-man and now you're oh, s***. They got two
guys that we're not comfortable one-on-one with.
And, you know, and the one thing I'll say about hurts.
This hurts has a great feel for the game. He does know,
he's got a good feel of,
you know, when, oh, wait, it's turn for. Let me not fit that
ball in there. Let me scrambling get the first down.
I just move the chains and we'll, we'll play another three
Downs, or,
hey, let's let me not make this
overly complicated.
Devante Smith is one on one over here against a lesser guy.
Let me just throw him, a jump ball, a fade, a back shoulder
ball, do all that stuff. He is good at stuff like that.
So to your point, their style of play.
Play and the way they're built it fits him certainly.
But to your point,
the question that needs to be answered and what we got to see
is that? Yes, it's great.
It's almost said it's almost foolproof
mean. When you saw them play a team that could kind of stop
the run or slow down the run, right? It didn't look that good
on all fronts
corrected when it was.
And and then so there was that issue but it was the opposite
of that and hey they could run.
Hey there. Done, but I want to tell people to is like
go back and look at some of the Winds.
I mean the Giants game
and the second meaning it was,
they lost the first meeting. Why
the Giants? The Giants, they weren't good, but the Giants
had big people at least a slow down the run, right? And hurts
made some bad decisions. The first game, second game,
you know, same kind of thing. They couldn't run that great.
The Giants were playing with Jake from that day
and my Glennon. It was the worst quarterback display. You
saw at any team in any and the NFL the last year. And the game
is 3, nothing in the third quarter, right? Because again
we weren't able to run and do it. So now the
game is closer than it needs to be and all that. Those are
things that concern me. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. You. Okay, you got
away with it against quarterbacks number 59, and 60
four in the countdown. Yeah. All right, you're not gonna. If
that team had a Daniel Jones in there or maybe somebody else or
even a just a comparable
offense. So those are the things that scare me. Those are
the questions I have about him
and yes, I got to see more on that end, you know. Again,
I just go back to A the early part of the year. I think it
speaks a lot to it. You know,
they early in the year, had no chance in some of these games.
When they were playing through the pass game, the Dallas game
early and and fill in douse. The game is over. They they're
trying to play a balanced game. The game was over in the
second quarter, you know, the stats are going to look good at
the end of the day, but it's like, no Dallas gave up like
first half
and then yeah. Wow. You threw for 300 yards in the part of
the game where nobody really cared. They were just let
the clock run out. Can I get ya? There was a lot of that game
on. Yeah. Tampa Bay, same thing. Game was over. Yeah,
they dominated they took the gas off. The pedal. Yeah, they
miss 31. Nothing. Exactly right
there. Just so there's a lot of that, you know,
the Raiders game,
same thing. The Raiders, the Raiders had them down and
I think 30 127 or something like that. Right? And they were
playing that style of football. So those are the questions on
Posey. I know I'm probably sounding a little critical
here, but I think then myself because I know
the backlash I'm going to get with this one. I'm going to
I mean just as the guy sitting a few feet from you, I mean
I mean that the summary is
you started with by saying I was wrong to not have on
the list last year. Yes. You've got him at 25, right? You saw a lot
of good things. Yes, and like a lot of people. Okay. This is
a quarterback. You can win with, I'm optimistic, but I have my
questions.
This is the Forum in May
said bring out. Not only positive the questions. And
the question that I hear you asking about. The team is the one.
I mean, maybe this is my question.
You can win nine games here.
You can go 10 and 7.
Can you go 12 and 5?
This formula and this quarterback,
no matter where he shows up here. No matter if he was
3828 or not listed last year.
I think any fan who's not just attached to the Eagles. Would
say,
Okay question. We think about the Eagles. Well, pretty good.
Nice Run game. Jalen hurts.
A lot of positive things.
I don't know if they can be 12 + 5 though with what they're
doing. Let's see to me. That's extremely fair
to ask about this quarterback in this team. Yeah. Yeah.
That's all I'm saying. They can go to the playoffs. Do
they did it? They're gonna, they're gonna Feast on
the poor. Yeah, but what are they going to be able to hang in
there with the rich? If they're at a again, next mid-January.
Can it be 1714 in the third quarter? Yeah. Or 2721 instead
of 30
1933, right? That's that's what you
at least. That's what I think you got to think about when
Jalen hurts in the Eagles. Come to my I think that's what we're
trying to tug. That's your right. That's where we're
looking at this.
I think, you know again, yeah, you know, what?
What is, what is he going to be able to do as far as putting
that team over over? The hump yes. Against those playoff
teams right now because
their team their roster, it's good. There's no doubt about
that and he's not going to you know, a little bit like to uh,
you know, and a lesser said, there's not going to be a lot
of excuses or jail. It hurts with this football team. So
it's going to kind of reveal itself.
But the question is going to be 22,
you know, where's it going to reveal itself? And if
everybody understand is being revealed, and I think that's
what we're saying and was he? He could go 10 and 7
and everyone's gonna go, look. He's great. He's awesome.
Go. Yeah, he's ten and seven. But I know he's not going to be
able to win these two or three games in the playoffs against
these teams.
And that is I think the the question mark here. Anything
another question. I mean if the team's three and five is
Gardner Minshew the quarterback. Well, I hear you.
I mean, is it fair to wonder that out loud, or should that
be squash? They Jalen's the guy. No
matter what? No,
I didn't know. He you say that for now and he is the guy, no
matter what, I think you stay that for sure. But yeah.
You get to the point in the year where you go? Wait,
aren't, you know, we're not dominating the Run game quite
like we used to last year. We need something in the pass
game. And then, yes, that's why I think they traded for Gardner
Minshew and again, listen
to even throw that point in there,
you know,
the Eagles
running, the ball Dominate and doing stuff like that Gardner.
Minshew plays against the Jets. Mmm,
and they kind of opened up the offense and said we're going to
be done with the past that this day.
It's me. Again. That's just says things to me, too. Yeah,
it all again, not trying to downplay but I think it also
showed me like what Gardner Minshew hasn't played for you
all year. They let him just come in and run the offense and
actually they threw the ball more than they do with Jalen
hurd's and opened it up and acted like they were going to
just go for it on that day again from the get-go right
from the get-go. They were in a shootout with them. Yeah. And
again, I think that says something a little bit again.
It doesn't mean obviously doesn't mean Gardner. Minshew
is better than Jalen hurd's, I don't think that But it showed
me at least a little bit that. Oh, they had a little more
confidence in Gardner, Minshew to do some of
these things on the offensive side of the ball,
then they do Jalen hurts.
And I think that's a fair thing to assess off of this as well.
So we'll see where it goes.
The motion. Listen. He's a good deep ball. Thrower he'll buy
time and launch the ball down the field.
He can get outside the pocket and run the ball pretty well.
The problem is this, when you really break it down.
It's the middle of the field pinpoint throws that you need
and
that's where he's not as good 63% of his throws outside. The
numbers will see that because that's that's where it's throw,
it up back shoulder. There's room for error, doesn't need to
be pinpoint. Let me just put it here in this radius. The guy
gets it,
you know, fade route. Okay. I'm just drop it in the bucket.
Spur say
let my guy just go get it. He's good at those certainly
but I think they throw those a lot because
His strength and then
they don't trust them to the Bucks game.
Oh, there's a 12-yard in cut, over the middle and between two
backers and the ball has to be thrown on time.
And like not like someone on target. It has to be perfect.
It's the NFL playoffs and it's the Super Bowl champion box.
It's got to be perfect.
It can't just be
all. Well. I kind of put it in his area
and that to me is where why you see those numbers that you're
talking about? Yeah, and I think what I see on film two is
too many plays throws.
Rose. Let's not even call that play anymore actually because
he can't get it out quick enough in his hands and flick
it or get it out there into a tight area and put it on
the money. The way
that we expect top-end quarterbacks in the NFL to do
in the pocket, because there's a lot, a lot of attention on
this name. I want to give you a chance here with the as we kind
of put this one to bed, a little bit of a good question
here from at that guy, Oliver
that I think will sum this up pretty well. Yeah.
What did you see from? Jalen hurts that made you say
damn? I was Long were also. What did you see that made you
go. Damn. I might still be right, that's funny guy.
They're there
because I think I've said that,
you know,
I what I saw from damn, I was wrong was damn. He's better
Runner than I gave him credit for it. We really is
and I'd even a, you know, Alabama and Oklahoma. I just
I didn't know if he'd be able to run the way he has in the NFL.
So that's a real thing.
And then, you know, the
leadership, the toughness
and all that. I probably didn't give enough credit. Credit for
that, and what he can do for the team there and that way.
And then
the throwing, even though it's still not up to par, is better
than I thought. Okay,
there's no doubt about that. So, that's the part where
I went. Damn. I was wrong, but that last Parts also where
I go.
Damn. I still might be right. Let's just see where we go here.
Let's see, because I'm not sure again, a little bit. Like what
I've said, betrayal and some things, I'm not sure some of
the problems I'm talking about. Some of the mechanical issues
throwing
can be your Will be fixed to me.
These are ones where I go. I do.
I'm just not sure there's your this is a tough ones to fix here.
So I got to see it a little bit to believe it, too. Before
I just go. Whoo. It's,
you know, it's getting there. It's around the corner or
whatever. And that's where I say. Damn. I might still be
right? So we'll see. All right, I was wrong to have them out of
the 40. There's no doubt about that. I want to make that very
clear.
It's where you started. Yes, it's where we're ending as well.