Speaker 1: Every central claim about the 2020 election made by failed former President Donald
Trump and the people around him, including people like Mark Meadows, but also wackier
people like Sidney Powell, Mike Pillow, Lindell and others. Every single one of those claims was
systematically contradicted and debunked by mostly Republican testimony, as we saw during yesterday's
second day of the Trump riot hearings. I'm going to give you some examples here, and you will see
how comprehensively every single one of these claims is easily,
easily, easily refuted. Former Philadelphia city commissioner Al Schmitt, a Republican,
said there is no evidence of even eight dead people voting. Never mind the 8000 dead voters
that Trump and people around him claimed in. Speaker 3: The claim that dead people were
voting. In fact, Mr. Giuliani told Pennsylvania state legislators
that 8000 dead people voted in Pennsylvania. You investigated those claims of voter fraud.
Can you tell us what you found? Speaker 2: Not only was there not
evidence of 8000 dead voters voting in Pennsylvania, there wasn't evidence of eight.
We took seriously every case that was referred to us, no matter how fantastical,
no matter how absurd, and took every one of those seriously, including these.
Speaker 1: So it's not that they say, well, you have to investigate all of it.
It was investigated. You just don't like the outcome of that investigation. And we've so dead
voters. That's one bucket of claims. We've looked into it extensively. There was an investigation,
I believe it was in Michigan, where they started with a list of I believe it was 10,000 supposedly
dead voters. And again, I now I believe it was the Guardian, if not the BBC, they said, let's
randomly choose I think it was 35 of the thousand or to 2000, whatever. Let's investigate them. And
then with those 35, they found most of them. There was evidence that the people were alive.
Like there was just really no reason to think that they were dead. In a few cases, it was people who
were indeed alive at the time that they voted and then they when they mailed in their ballot, then
they died. Nothing illegal there. In some cases, there was like junior senior confusion. I mean, it
was all it was all just picked apart. Next claim, Georgia smuggled ballots. Former acting deputy
attorney general testifies that he personally investigated the Georgia smuggled ballots,
found nothing, told him it was false, but it didn't matter who play again.
Speaker 3: A testimony from Mr. Donoghue, who appeared before the committee before today.
Mr. Donohue, you we talked so much about whether or not the White House and the
president was informed about the interim report on the results of the investigations,
the interviews that have gone on on Fulton County. How would those results have been communicated
to the White House, to the president? Speaker 2: I don't know how they were
initially communicated. I do know that they came up in subsequent conversations with the president
and that rose and I essentially told them we looked into that and it's just not true.
Speaker 3: Okay. So he was I informed. Speaker 2: I told the president myself
that several times in several conversations that these allegations about ballots being smuggled in,
in a suitcase and run through the machine several times, it was not
true that we looked at we looked at the video, interviewed the witnesses. That was not true.
Speaker 1: Right. Speaker 4: We're doing
a class action lawsuit against all machines. Speaker 1: So there is another claim, the idea of
ballots smuggled in. And there were videos with ominous music of suitcases in different places
with no reason whatsoever to believe that the suitcases contained fraudulent ballots. People
have suitcases. It's not like a huge smoking gun in and of itself. And Trump was told, and yet he
continued to repeat it. And then lastly, again, just as another example, we could do this all day,
but I won't do it to you. The other claim was more votes than voters in Philadelphia. Philadelphia
and Pennsylvania in general became a big focus because they stopped counting and then started
again. Of course, if you understand the scheduling for vote counting in Philadelphia, you would know
that they just have a schedule. They stop counting and then they start again the next morning. Not
really evidence of anything, but the other claim was more votes than voters. And William Barr,
Trump's own attorney general, says it's not true. There were not more votes than voters and anybody
just Googling Philadelphia Pennsylvania population would be able to realize that.
Speaker 3: I to turn to President Trump's false allegations about election integrity
in Philadelphia. The attorney general discussed these allegations at some length.
Speaker 2: You know, the idea the president has repeatedly suggested that there was some kind
of outpouring of unexpected votes in inner city areas like Philadelphia as recently as January
13th when he walked off the NPR said. He was asked by the interviewer, What's, you know, what's your
evidence of fraud? And he said, more people voted in Philadelphia than there were voters.
And that was absolute rubbish. Right. The turnout in Philadelphia was in line with the state's
turnout. And in fact, it was not is as impressive as many suburban counties. And there was nothing
strange about the Philadelphia turnout. It wasn't like it was all these unexpected votes that came
out of the Philadelphia show. Right. You know, I think once you actually look at the votes and
there's an obvious explanation. He you know, for example, in Pennsylvania, Trump ran
weaker than the Republican ticket. Generally, he ran weaker than two of the state can.
Speaker 1: Anyway, the point is, William Barr knows that it was all B.S. So every
single one of these claims, what do we know about them? We know two important things. One,
there was not actually any evidence for them, but maybe even more importantly, two,
there were Republicans around Trump who knew the claims were B.S. and would tell Trump that
they were B.S. and it did not matter. So a very critical moment in yesterday's Trump riot hearings