Why don't you start at the top?.. okay
Being the formation of the song? the beginning
yeah and then we can talk about the middle.. yeah okay
Was just sitting in church
one day a couple years ago, and just kind of added nowhere I felt like
This idea of writing a song called another in the fire.
Just kind of dropped into my head
And I texted a friend of ours Kane and I said hey
I think Joel and I are gonna write a song called another in the fire.
Kane's response was I'm in
Which which for me I was like, alright cool
so this we're gonna run with this
and that point I'd have anything other than
clever title and I knew Joel was kind of like in a
Going through like a bit of a rough season
and I felt I maybe the song would be really important for him
And so I kinda like got the chorus
and was like next time I was with him was like
hey, I want to show this idea to you. So I showed him the chorus and
And he went I'm in and I was like, oh, this is good. We're two for two
I think we felt like it was important from the very beginning
and we felt like it was cool to be able to write a song
That like almost talks about like lack of resolution
and how what you're in the midst of and where you're headed
The x-factor and all of that is actually that you're not alone
And so regardless of what circumstances you're in you're facing
you've never been alone. You never are alone. You never will
Chris had a very clear thing. He's like another in the fire
I'm in, that makes sense to me.
and it makes sense to me because I know the story the old the Bible story
But when that becomes real life like do I what does that look like now?
What does it look like to be like I'm not bowing?
to your idols and if you throw me in the fire
it's okay because
God will rescue us and even if he doesn't we're not bowing anyway
that's real life.
for everybody
As the song kind of developed I think for both of us
personally the song started kind of going from being
a cool title and a cool lyrics, to like
Something that I feel like we both really needed personally
When we'll ride in it the separate ways going through very real things.
We're trying to both kind of encourage each other
That's what we do That's what Fellowship is
That's what community is
That's what songs I think they should do is kind of their reminders is their confessions
So I'm not sure I believe this I believe it for the future
I believe it because I saw it in the past but right now I think I believe it
I want to believe it when you say it when you confess it and you remind your soul
It's amazing like that confession precedes belief and it's in that sense.
That's why I think it's really powerful
So when we finished the chorus and we were happy with the chorus
I wrote Joel and I was like hey
Like I think I just want to try the chorus in church and see what happens for me
that was a pivotal moment because I was ready to walk away from the song because I was
honestly getting to a point where I was like, I don't know if I
Believe what I'm writing, so . I don't know if I can write this song.
Well the week before creative conference when we
Recorded the album
I, you know had the message Joel
and say hey, you know
our boy, he's like gotten his official autism diagnosis
And that, that really sucked for me
Because I I kind of felt like
I was doing everything I was supposed to be doing to
Like speak
faith in the future and like kind of other things that like we get told to do and
And so I was pretty upset
and I didn't want to go to creative conference anymore
part of one of the things that my
Son works through right now is right now
He doesn't speak, yet
I just kind of in that moment was like, all right
I'm gonna get this room to sing for him
I'm gonna make the enemy
Regret his decision
To try and throw this in my face
and so I was just like I'm gonna go so hard like, I'm just like I'm gonna really I'm gonna try and just
Leave it all on on the platform
and so we did the song and I feel like it was electric
I can see the light In the darkness
As the darkness Bows to Him
I can hear the roar In the heavens
As the space Between wears thin
I can feel the ground Shake beneath us
As the prison walls cave in Nothing stands between us
Nothing stands between us
It was such a special atmosphere that these guys had worked so hard to build and
I think I got the end of the day
maybe what this song has taught me and maybe what I hope
That will teach other people is
that in-betweens. Okay, and it doesn't make it doesn't
Affect true things being true
They're still true, they're now not yet
They're here and yet to come
and that's okay the keys that you never alone in any of it
I hope that that's what this song does
Even if he doesn't I'll stand tall
Even if he doesn't I'll praise Him
Even if he doesn't
I'm not bowing to this world
Even if he doesn't
I ain't changing my confession or my belief or who I believe in
Even if he doesn't
Oh I'm gonna sing louder then ever
I'm stand longer then ever
I can see the light
I can see the light In the darkness
As the darkness Bows to Him
I can hear the roar In the heavens
As the space Between wears thin
I can feel the ground Shake beneath us
As the prison walls cave in Nothing stands between us
Nothing stands between us
There’ll be another in the fire
Standing next to me
There’ll be another in the waters
Holding back the seas
And should I ever need reminding
How good You’ve been to me
I’ll count the joy come every battle
‘Cause I know that’s where You’ll be
I just kind of had this moment
Where I was like, alright, this is it
like this is kind of do-or-die for me
to be honest
It's pretty good