>>> WELCOME BACK TO SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE NEW HAMPSHIRE
PRIMARY.
PRIMARY. I SHOULD NOTE, TECHNICALLY THE
FIRST VOTES ARE ALREADY IN.
FIVE RESIDENTS IN THE TINY TOWN
OF DIXVILLE NOTCH, VOTING AFTER
MIDNIGHT.
MIDNIGHT. THREE PEOPLE WROTE IN VOTES FOR
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG IN ADDITION TO
VOTES FOR SANDERS AND BUTTIGIEG.
THAT OUTCOME MAY BE PURELY
SYMBOLIC, BUT IS A REMINDER HOW
BLOOMBERG LOOMS OVER THE RACE.
HE IS BEING HIT TODAY BY
STATEMENTS FOUND BY BENJAMIN
DIXON, A SANDERS SUPPORTER.
THE CAMPAIGN MANAGER HAS A TWEET
UP WITH THE SAME AUDIO.
THAT COMES AFTER PRESIDENT
DONALD TRUMP POSTED AND DELETED
THIS TWEET CALLING BLOOMBERG A
QUOTE, TOTAL RACIST.
NBC NEWS REACHED OUT TO THE
WHITE HOUSE ABOUT THIS.
LET’S BE CLEAR, DONALD TRUMP
ENDORSED THE SAME STOP AND FRISK
POLICY UNDER DISCUSSION, MAKES
THAT NOW DELETED TWEET SOMETHING
OF SELF CONDEMNATION.
NBC NEWS HASN’T VERIFIED NEWLY
UNEARTHED AUDIO RECORDING, THE
RECORD SHOWS IT IS CONSISTENT
WITH THE CASE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG
MADE FOR YEARS.
DEFENDED HIS POLICING POLICIES
IN NEW YORK AND THEY DID INVOLVE
OVER 5 MILLION STOPS TOTAL OF
MOSTLY INNOCENT MINORITIES.
THIS IS AN ISSUE WE HAVE BEEN
COVERING.
COVERING. I RECENTLY ASKED BLOOMBERG’S
CAMPAIGN MANAGER ABOUT THE
ISSUE, AND HERE’S THE EXCHANGE
BEGINNING WITH PLAYING
BLOOMBERG’S PAST DEFENSE.
>> THEY JUST KEEP SAYING IT IS A
DISPORTION AT PERCENTAGE OF A
PARTICULAR ETHNIC GROUP.
THAT MAY BE, BUT IT IS NOT A
DISPRORGS NAT PERCENTAGE OF
THOSE WHO WITNESSES AND VICTIMS
DESCRIBE AS COMMITTING THE
MURDER.
MURDER. IN THAT CASE, INCIDENTALLY, I
THINK WE DISPROPORTIONATELY STOP
WHITES TOO MUCH AND MINORITIES
TOO LITTLE.
TOO LITTLE. >> IS THAT STILL HIS POSITION?
>> NO.
>> NO. MIKE SAID HE GOT IT WRONG.
AND YOU COULD KEEP ASKING THE
QUESTION, I’LL KEEP TELLING YOU,
HE SAID HE GOT IT WRONG.
WHAT HE DIDN’T GET WRONG, HE IS
ONE OF THE FEW PUBLIC OFFICIALS
IN THIS COUNTRY THAT CARED TO DO
SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
HE MIGHT HAVE BEEN THE ONLY
PUBLIC OFFICIAL IN THE COUNTRY
THAT TOOK ON THE NRA THE WAY HE
DID.
DID. HE WAS THE ONLY MAYOR AT THE
TIME, PRISON POPULATION WAS
GOING UP 6% OVER HIS EARLY
YEARS, REDUCED IT BY 36%.
>> BLOOMBERG ALSO RESPONDING
TODAY BY EMPHASIZING HE QUOTE
REGRETS AND APOLOGIZES FOR THE
POLICY, CONDEMNING DONALD
TRUMP’S TWEET FOR ITS DIVISION.
I AM JOINED BY MY A WILEY,
FORMER COUNSEL TO BILL DE
BLASIO, OVERSEER OF THE POLICE
OVERSIGHT BOARD IN NEW YORK
CITY, MAKING HER VERY VERSE IN
ALL THESE ISSUES.
THANKS FOR JOINING ME.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME, ARI.
WE MISS YOU HERE IN NEW YORK.
>> I AM WELL TAKEN CARE OF HERE
IN MANCHESTER.
IN MANCHESTER. THIS IS ONE OF THE ISSUES WE
DEFINITELY WANTED TO INCLUDE IN
REPORTING.
REPORTING. I THINK MORE THAN ONE THING CAN
BE TRUE.
BE TRUE. FIRST, IT CAN BE TRUE THAT
DONALD TRUMP HAS ZERO
CREDIBILITY OR STANDING TO CALL
ANYONE A, QUOTE, RACIST, FULL
STOP.
STOP. BUT SECOND, I THINK IT CAN BE
TRUE THAT AS VOTERS ASSESS THE
RECORDS OF ALL CANDIDATES,
INCLUDING MR. BLOOMBERG THAT
WANTS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION,
THE HISTORY HERE IS IMPORTANT.
GIVEN ALL YOUR WORK, WHAT DO YOU
THINK PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW AS THEY
WATCH THE DEBATE PLAY OUT?
>> THIS IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT
DEBATE AND I AGREE WITH YOU
ABOUT DONALD TRUMP.
AND WHAT’S SO IMPORTANT FOR THIS
CONVERSATION ABOUT STOP AND
FRISK, NOT JUST IN NEW YORK CITY
BY THE WAY, IT IS NOT JUST A NEW
YORK CITY PHENOMENON, BUT WHEN
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG SAYS HE GOT IT
WRONG, HE SAYS HE GOT IT WRONG
IN 2020 WHEN WE’VE HAD MORE THAN
SIX YEARS OF DATA DEMONSTRATING
THAT 90% OF PEOPLE WHO WERE
LARGELY BLACK AND LATINO BEING
STOPPED AND FRISKED IN NEW YORK
CITY WERE NEVER EVEN BEING
SUMMONSED AS A RESULT OF THAT
STOP.
STOP. WHAT THAT TOLD US WAS THEY DID
NOTHING WRONG.
NOTHING WRONG. THEY WERE BEING STOPPED MERELY
BECAUSE POLICE OFFICERS DECIDED
TO STOP THEM FOR THEIR
APPEARANCE, AND THERE WAS VERY
LITTLE LEFT FOR A FEDERAL JUDGE
BUT TO FIND THAT THAT WAS
ESSENTIALLY RACIAL PROFILING,
THAT THEY WERE NOT UNLIKE
MICHAEL BLOOMBERG’S STATEMENT
MATCHING SOME DESCRIPTION WHERE
THE DESCRIPTION WAS OF SOMEONE
WHO WAS BLACK OR LATINO.
AND THE OTHER THING TO POINT OUT
IS IN JANUARY OF 2019, A YEAR
AGO, MICHAEL BLOOMBERG DOUBLED
DOWN ON HIS DEFENSE OF STOP AND
FRISK, AGAIN, WITH CRIME NUMBERS
DROPPING EVERY YEAR IN THE CITY,
PARTICULARLY ON MURDERS, AND BY
THE WAY HE MADE THE POINT THAT
STOP AND FRISK WAS IMPORTANT TO
GET WEAPONS OFF THE STREET, I
BELIEVE MICHAEL BLOOMBERG
DESERVES A LOT OF CREDIT FOR
EFFORTS ON GUN VIOLENCE AND NEW
YORK CITY POLICE DEPARTMENT GOT
A LOT OF GUNS OFF THE STREET.
THAT’S TRUE.
THAT’S TRUE. WHAT ISN’T TRUE IS THAT PEOPLE
WHO WERE STOPPED AND FRISKED HAD
WEAPONS.
WEAPONS. VERY FEW, 1.5% OF PEOPLE STOPPED
RECOVERED A WEAPON, AND WEAPON
DOESN’T NECESSARILY MEAN GUN,
COULD HAVE BEEN KNIFE.
SO IT WASN’T SOLVING ANY PROBLEM
BUT I TELL YOU WHAT IT WAS
DOING, IT WAS TRAUMATIZING BLACK
AND LATINO NEW YORK CITY
RESIDENTS, TO A POINT WHERE
LITERALLY FERTIVE ACTION,
MEANING YOU FLINCH OR RUN WHEN
YOU SEE A POLICE OFFICER COMING,
THAT WOULD GIVE POLICE AN EXCUSE
TO STOP SOMEONE, BUT
UNFORTUNATELY PART OF WHY PEOPLE
WERE DOING THAT IS THEY WERE
TERRIFIED OF THE POLICE
DEPARTMENT.
DEPARTMENT. AND WHAT WE NEED FOR PUBLIC
SAFETY IN THIS COUNTRY IS FOR
POLICE TO BE TRUSTED PARTNERS
WITH COMMUNITY, AND STOP AND
FRISK WAS THE VERY THING THAT
KEPT POLICE AND COMMUNITY APART,
WHICH MEANT OUR COMMUNITIES WERE
NOT AS SAFE AS THEY SHOULD BE.
SO UNFORTUNATELY MICHAEL
BLOOMBERG IS NOT VERY CREDIBLE
ON THIS POINT.
I THINK IT IS ABSOLUTELY
ACCURATE TO SAY HE HAS
APOLOGIZED.
APOLOGIZED. HE APOLOGIZED IN 2020 WITH YEARS
OF DATA AND A FEDERAL COURT
DECISION THAT HE SAID HE WOULD
APPEAL THAT HAD DEMONSTRATED
THAT STOP AND FRISK WAS NOTHING
BUT PROFILING BLACK AND LATINO
NEW YORKERS.
NEW YORKERS. >> YOU LAY IT ALL OUT.
LAST THING I WANT TO ASK YOU ON
THE FACTS, POLICIES MATTER,
PEOPLE WANT SAFE COMMUNITIES AND
COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE PROTECTION
AND EQUALITY FOR EVERYONE,
DEBATE ON THAT ON THE TRAIL.
WHEN I SPOKE TO MR. HIM, HE SAID
MIKE WAS WRONG, WE’LL NEVER DO
IT AGAIN, TRUST US IN THE WHITE
HOUSE, BUT MAYBE THE POLICY
HELPED LOWER MURDER IN NEW YORK,
WHICH IS A BIG CLAIM.
WHAT’S YOUR VIEW ON THAT CLAIM?
>> DATA DOESN’T MAKE THE CLAIM.
LOOK, I THINK WE NEED A
PRESIDENT, I’M NOT TELLING
PEOPLE WHO TO VOTE FOR, BUT ONE
OF THE THINGS WE NEED IN THE
NEXT PRESIDENT IS ONE THAT TELLS
THE TRUTH AND BASES IT ON FACT.
THAT’S NOT WHAT THE DATA SHOWS.
WHAT THE DATA SHOWS IS FOLKS
WEREN’T EVEN GIVEN A SUMMONS
AFTER THEY WERE STOPPED, THAT
MEANS THEY WERE NOT MURDERERS,
THEY WERE NOT EVEN GUILTY OF A
CRIME THE POLICE COULD TAKE THEM
TO THE PRECINCT ON.
>> MEANS THEY WEREN’T CHARGED
LET ALONE TRIED OR CONVICTED.
QUITE A DISTANCE AWAY.
THERE’S A LOT GOING ON.
THIS IS AN IMPORTANT STORY.
WHEN YOU HAVE THE PRESIDENT AND
THE MAYOR AND OTHERS CLASHING,