Tonight charges for a deputy and
a suspect who's seen here on fire at an Orlando gas station.
>> He picked up the discarded taser that was located in gas it says you're about
to get tamed Dude immediately after that
statement with the taser in his hand the fire ignites.
>> Surveillance video showing 26 year old John Barreto covered in flames
is attorneys who provided the video from Wawa to NBC say he was cooked alive.
>> We're not saying anything other than, let's get the truth out and
it's not out yeah.
>> Well look as of right now, it looks like we know quite a bit of the truth and
what we've learned about it is absolutely devastating in this case.
Again, just a complete overreaction and
escalation of violence coming from the police resulting in a person sustaining
absolutely devastating burns over a significant part of their body.
And, you look even far away, that video where you see john running
covered in flames, I cannot even conceive of how terrible that is.
None of this needed to happen one of the through lines in all of these videos
that we show you is just, there's no consideration of the stakes.
The police do not care how little it matters that they immediately
knock someone out, that they immediately end this situation and
they are willing to risk everything with almost nothing on the line for them.
A lot ends up being on the line for the people who get injured or killed so
casually so frequently, and in this case, thankfully perhaps because
the video got out, perhaps because this story became national news.
The actual sheriff's deputy there that you saw in the video admitted
that this cop was in the wrong and you're now seeing these charges coming out.
Misdemeanor charges of culpable negligence by the way,
we'll see if that's where it ends Francesca hat do you think?
>> I mean, this just proves that the idea that we need more training is so
absurd when we talk about real police reform like
what are those trainings that they're getting?
What is the calculation that they're trying to make in those split seconds?
What are they being told?
Are they being told to take in any of their surrounding circumstances right?
There always supposedly in danger I'm sure we were, I was in danger I was going
to lose my life it's like were you though or was this gentleman covered in gasoline?
And you should have been very cognizant of that before you use something like
a taser on him it's just insanity to me and
it just proves that like this job, there should be higher standards, right?
There needs to be higher standards for it, I think that the George Carlin
documentary just came out and he had a bit about like we should actually
have standards of empathy and decency to be part of the police force?
Yeah are those, is that part of any of your training?
You don't need more of it I think you need different training you need different
standards.
>> It's less cops specific training and
more just general like can we check in on what sort of person you are,
what you think about the world, what you think about the people around you?
Because there's some stuff more fundamental than cop training
that we need to make sure that you've got right.
Because if you if you have certain beliefs,
certain ideas of how like constantly like
threatened your life is then does it really matter what we layer on top of.
That in terms of training now, I do think that the cop training matters more so
in that they seem to preemptively go out of their way to produce cops that will
have situations like that.
I think people who are naturally scared seem to be overrepresented to begin with
but then they are trained to be even more terrified constantly.
And that I think is more than anything other than,
perhaps the threat of white supremacy that goes through a lot of different police
departments is the most singularly responsible for what we see.
But yeah,
they need to dial back some of the insane training that they give these cops and
then they also need to care about what sorts of people they're going out there.
And recruiting to be cops because as of right now, like I can't imagine a good,
like a reasonable person wouldn't make it through all of this?
Like if you're being surrounded by people that are being trained to be so violent,
would you make it to the end?
Like, I feel like there's a self selection here thing here too.
>> Well, yeah,
sorry the Carlin quote is they need to new requirements intelligence and
decency we're talking about the decency, but also the intelligence Like I'm sorry.
We've all seen and know of dumb cop stories there's a reason why
Chief Wig gum is like or wig, or whatever it is.
There's a reason why there's a dumb cop stereotype because a lot of them are dumb
like I'm sorry and this is a situation where you're not only do you not care?
So you're not being decent to this person, but you're so
dumb you don't understand the consequences of using a taser at a gas station where.
There might be gasoline around, you could be killing someone and
in fact it nearly did or did this gentleman actually die?
>> No, he survived he's just got terrible burns and yeah, not everyone,
obviously not all cops, but at a certain point when,
stories like this are coming out literally every single day.
All over the country at a certain point, it's, well,
does it matter that it's not everyone like it's enough It's enough and by the way,
it's Wig gum put some respect on the name Francesca, it's Wig gum.
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