wellness program
seasons ago as a year ago
not sure exactly what was kevin camp society was talking about
of you know the groundwater around for the sheehan is now at risk
well apparently that has come to past kevin camps would be on nuclear he is
the nuclear waste watchdog there'd be a nuclear dot org ken welcome back the
program i dont think that makes
great to have you with us uh... what's
what's the current state
of the
you know what's going on the size of solace this uh... headline is reuters
story japan finds highly toxic strontium ninety
infocus sheila groundwater or assist me
well it's probably the biggest crisis
sent the beginning of this nuclear catastrophe over two years ago in march
of twenty eleven if the fact that
they continually have to use
large amount of water to keep the multum course school are not perpetual basis
into the future these something like four hundred tons of water per day
to cool the molten core and so they have to
store that water because it's contaminated with radioactive iti
and there's a equal amount of water
that is simply
flooding into the basement level of this destroyed nuclear power plant prompt the
groundwater which then pick up a radioactive contamination
though about a hundred tons of water per day it's becoming radioactivity
contaminated it all have to be
stored
and so they've filled all the areas of the
site with these water storage tanks
and obviously it is leaking because radioactive strontium which is uh...
seeker of bone in the human body as well as radioactive tritium which goes
everywhere in the human body had been found it very high level
very close through the pacific short just within a hundred feet of the
pacific ocean at site
and received by secret bone you meanie it gets in your bones and it would cause
over time bone cancer
yet is carcinogenic the body mistakes radioactive documenting be for calc and
so it just embed in the human bone it can cause bone cancer cause leukemia
the same way the body mistakes radioactive cesium for potassium and
embed zijn muscles like the heart
yeah exactly
and fellow at chernobyl the worst culprit that escaped america caster
fewer radioactive cpm unstrung jim they both have a thirty-year half-life
he got a multiply by at least and for that
three hundred years of hazard to be safer uh... six hundred years at hazard
and want to get into the ocean offend we concentrate that doesn't deluded
re-confirm treats in the food chain
and humans are at the top of the
of the food chain recommended it to say that in plain english the
at the little tiny plants the algae
exorbitant and the algae get eaten by the little fish in a little fish get
eaten by the medium sized fish and the media says fish get eaten by the big
fish and by the time you got a big fish like a tuna being hauled up on board on
you've got probably tons and tons and tons of algae that absorbs trial jim
that has been you know worked their way through the bodies of all these fish
that if they had this giant carnivorous fish
and then we eat
that's right
and uh... yet dot the crap where a typical bio concentration and that the
other element i mentioned radioactive hydrogen which is called tritium
that goes everywhere in the human body right down to the d_n_a_ level where it
doesn't damage and what's really incredible is
where at tokyo after power company is trying to
filter o
some of the radioactivity from a contaminated water
you cannot filter out tritium because it is water it's radioactive hydrogen
simply it left behind even at the filtering systems work which they are
not
and the big question is where does the created water goal
tokyo electric would like to just dump it in the ocean intentionally and the
fishermen along the coast are not letting that happen
misplaced and italian
what is the half-life tritium
it's twelve point three years so that's about a hundred and twenty years i've
got to hundred and fifty years of hazard
and benefits
yeah if israel active hydrogen
packages
is we we thought i was mix of helium in hygiene which one is
who is a water too
protons neutrons electrons yeah i did it is number one on the periodic number one
has uh... a single proton and uh...
surface area that was at a sax on-demand tritium has commuter on so it's a three
protocol nuclear
and president adam
so to neutrons one-person one election
yeah antics are twelve and a half years for that extra neutron to discharge
itself basically
yen you know it
very powerful at that level in the d_n_a_ or in yourselves on your tissues
that part doesn't aman ke on neutron flying around is that
is that it is that what's called an alpha particle pardon my
uh... high school science question sir it's been a long time since i started
this
well you got alpha particle to get gamma radiation you've got uh... neutron
radiation from an ongoing chain reaction and uh...
yet to be honest with you we have another expert who handle that stuff you
know that's not so it's probably not the neutron radiation causes a neutron
so you know
but whatever ok so that's that's what's going on with a almeida tritium uh... is
that it's a beta msn and it's uh... considered elo
eight msn but when you get it into your
most intimate d_n_a_
molecule that
that was the going rate your body the waterway
and your body's late-night ninety percent water or somethin some yeah
there's a phenomenon called organically bound tritium
where r
it's stick around for a very long time you know if not retreating and
architects created you know and urine and sucks but some of that buying tenure
in a case using a stick around and uh... to prolong this so what's the future i
mean tibco here you're talking a hundred tons of water a day to keep these corsa
melting down in going nuclear
uh... you know worthy that water from
where's that water going to go how can they sustain this for more than i mean
they've been doing it for two years now i a who've
mindboggling a lot of water where they can panelists
well this problem making photos right hand
the new york times for example the shows but the entire study is being covered in
these giant
steel tank their they're very large fries sinners thousands of them at this
point
really holding a man from out the water we're talking hundreds of thousands of
tons of water in these paint
which are wreaking unfortunately up for some of this contamination of coming
from
so there's
there's dotting the is it sounds like there's no indian here
there's no there's no
there's a a of a uh... bakke is there
unintended chernobyl they cover the course in concrete measures so that the
royal let clock
art can you do that i thought she was there what is there any is there any way
to put an end to this you know it's really incredible they happen criticize
tokyo after caster
very short-term thinking men taking things work one day at a kind of course
but with a
decade-long if not centuries long crisis but they're facing so
very little to no long-term planning one of the things that happened at chernobyl
right away
was uh... liquid nitrogen refused to freeze the ground
groundwater for example couldn't flow through the melted down
reactor cores site
became a day to day have not done that and they're now talking about it world
to two-and-a-half years into this crisis
just now talking about perhaps we should please the ground to prevent groundwater
from belong to and picking up a radio activity
so long term scenario uh... tokyo electric certainly doesn't know what to
do their show on map by their actions
now i hear from a friend of mine who's japanese lives in japan
japanese people are not said there's uh... you know that there's a small
subset who are very freaked out about this but by and large the level of freak
out has decreased somewhat because all these assurance assunto co in the
government
is that consistent with what you understand
well i think there's evident
that you know something major has changed in the japanese population
certainly there panetta nuclear activity
hard at work for a decade in the past but now
you know it sure sign of the level of concern is that
forty eight of the
fifties though operable reactors in japan are simply shut down
because local populations will not let them leave star and in fact there's
uh... redoubled effort to get the two operating reactor shut down because of
earthquake risks
and uh... without that's good news
any chance of that happening united states not the earthquake risk we all
know that but joe shutting down our nuclear plants well it's been an amazing
here
or atomic reactors which shut down this year and united state one in florida one
in wisconsin and and and most recently about two weeks ago at c_n_n_ toll-free
california pw reactor shutdown that's the most of
any year
in u_s_ history actually and there's more
dominoes reputable experiences that he has a beyond that there have been
working on yeah the grass roots movement throughout the country venue class
people give me a little more information at the on nuclear dot org seven camps
the nuclear waste watchdog it's there
kevin grey talking with if it's not thanks for the update it's always good
talking so it's very important for you that fifteen minutes past the air