>> Ben Shapiro responded to US women's soccer star Megan Rapinoe by basically having a meltdown
and temper tantrum about her and the call for equal pay on his show.
So let's take a look at what his argument is.
>> Capitalism can actually raise your pay.
So what you're saying is that the reason you're not getting equal pay right now is because
you're not making equal money for your league.
And the best way for you to raise your pay would be for people to come and purchase tickets
and memorabilia from your team, which suggests that this isn't about sexism at all.
This is about you just complaining about sexism for publicity.
>> Yeah, so he famously said that facts don't care about your feelings.
>> Yeah.
>> But in that little rant, of course, he didn't delve into the facts.
He didn't even care to research the facts.
Maybe he did.
And he's intentionally being misleading about what the reality is in terms of revenue for
this soccer team, and I'm going to give you those details, again, for the second time
this week, because the facts are out there.
The notion that the team doesn't bring enough revenue in in order to get paid equally to
the men's soccer team is a lie.
It is not based in fact.
The women's team contributed close or more than half of the USSFs revenue from games
since fiscal year 2016.
Overall from fiscal 2016 to 2018, the women's games generated about $900,000 more revenue
than the men's games.
In the year following the 2015 World Cup win, women's games generated $1.9 million more
than the men's games.
So, and I don't know Ben, it appears that >> the facts don't care about your feelings,
and the evidence indicates that the women's teams are actually bringing in more revenue
than the men's team so what are you gonna do about that?
>> Is that his real voice?
Is he not ashamed to go on television with that particular one, I have this question
that I want to ask and people going to kill me for this but, like, I know that but no,
it's fine.
It's fine.
I'm a big boy, I can take it.
Listen, when black people do things and they see another black person doing something embarrassing,
we feel it, with second hand black embarrassment, is what it's called.
And whatever group you're in, if it's a marginalized group, you feel this, and I want him to understand
that there are other people who should feel this.
If you're a white person and you hear his voice and he's saying these idiotic things,
you should feel embarrassed.
That doesn't show off, you should have like a, gosh, Ben is doing it again.
We've got to put out a statement, because it's terrible and wrong.
It's not just the money that they're bringing in.
The idea that Rapinoe is getting extra money because she's an outspoken lesbian is ridiculous.
>> It is.
>> It's absurd.
>> The top ten most marketable women, according to Forbes last year, non of them on the list
to my knowledge are lesbian.
All of them are moderately outspoken but not outspoken politically.
So that idea is ridiculous, but the biggest thing is, if we're gonna tie how much money
they make to whether or not they should get paid, then in most countries, no one should
be paid.
You should only get paid if you win?
You should only get paid if you're good at your job?
Cuz if you should only be paid if you're good at your job, Ben Shapiro should be broke,
and I'd be a gazilionaire, cuz I'm very funny and way smarter than you, Ben.
And I know you went to Harvard, but that doesn't mean anything, because George Bush went to
Yale, and we know that guy is not >> So.
I'm sorry.
His voice makes my innards sad.
>> Well, he's intentionally misleading, and it amazes me.
Like, the right wing is just better at marketing than people on the left.
Because he has been sold to the American public as this whiz kid, as this guy who is only
making arguments based on statistics, based on facts, based on the evidence.
That he is not someone who is driven by emotion or feelings.
But that is exactly what he demonstrated in that clip we just showed you.
In fact, there's more of it in the next clip, but Brooke, I wanted to give you a chance
to chime in.
>> Well, I hate talking about him.
I feel like every time I want to fight back against the system that has allowed him to
exist publicly.
I do.
I hate talking about him.
And you all know Dan, we get into back and forth all the time.
I just think it is, I hate talking about him, I hate it.
I wanna pretend that he doesn't exist, that he doesn't have so much of a following.
Cuz he never makes any sense, he never says anything that's true.
He says things that are racist, he says things that are sexist.
He's gay, right?
And says things- >> No.
>> No, that's Milo.
>> He says things that are homophobic.
>> Yeah.
I mean he told Dave Rubin, who is gay and on the right,
>> That's right.
>> That he would not go to his wedding, right?
>> That's right.
I got.
>> And wouldn't bake him a wedding cake.
>> Well, I don't think Ben Shapiro makes good wedding cakes.
Is that a thing that we are, are we going, hey man, you know what I really want?
Ben Shapiro muffins.
That's not a thing.
Don't threaten me to do that.
>> So the context of that discussion, though, just to like, give you a sense of how hilarious
he is.
>> Ridiculous he is?
>> Yeah.
>> So Dave Rubin, in that interview with Ben Shapiro, was trying to make a point about
how we might have disagreements with one another, but we are friendly to one another, civil
to one another.
And so we asked Ben Shapiro about whether or not he would bake a cake for his wedding,
or go to his wedding, in an effort to show the audience, like, look, we're so, we might
have disagreements.
We're so civil with one another.
And Ben's like no, no, I don't think I would, I don't think I would bake a cake or go to
your wedding.
>> That's what you get, though.
That's what everyone who is any bit of a member of a marginalized community that ties themself
to this political narrative.
At some point in life, they get shown, no really, you really don't belong.
Where has Candice Owens gone?
She's been fired how many times?
>> Exactly.
>> I don't know who are these people.
I'm not- >> It's somebody we're trying to trade for
Megan Rapinoe.
>> I'm familiar.
>> So I do wanna go to the last clip featuring Ben Shapiro talking about how somehow, Rapinoe
is actually very privileged.
>> Yeah.
>> We all have to pretend that this is, that this is all normal and that is not divisive
at all, and that truly she's a hero to everyone.
Absolute, absolute silliness.
Absolute silliness, and bad for the country, by the way.
When even the stuff that we take a break with, you know, sporting, is trying it into this,
it's pretty obnoxious.
And we're not talking about 1968, in the middle of the civil rights movement with US sprinters
on the US national team at the Olympics raising the Black Power fist, because American politics
are polarized around race in '68.
We're not talking about that, we're talking about, gay marriage is legal across the United
States by Supreme Court diktat.
We're talking about Megan Rapinoe is getting million-dollar contracts specifically because
of her sexuality.
And because she is a very, very good soccer player.
But let's not make any mistake.
If she were a very good soccer player and she were not a very outspoken lesbian, she
would be getting fewer contracts, because she's seen as a political figure.
And she's sort of Colin Kaepernick, but with actual talents at her sport.
So, all of this is obnoxious.
But we're supposed to pretend that actually she is quite charming and wonderful.
That it is not obnoxious to live in the best time for women and best time for lesbians
and the best time for women's soccer in the history of the world.
>> Are we supposed to pretend like you are charming and wonderful, cuz you.
>> No, no.
>> I mean, if you know anything about sports at all like people love to hit on Kaepernickans
and say that he is not talented, as if being in the NFL.
And he played longer than one season but even if.
>> And he started.
>> One season.
That is a feat, that is unachievable physically for most people in the world.
I always say because everyone sits at home and loves to talk about it.
Imagine the worst NFL team out there.
The worst team, the best college team would get their behinds eaten alive, like just smashed,
and none of us are even as good as the best college team.
>> Yeah, he was one of the 31 best athletes in the world for at least a few seasons, right?
>> You know, talk about it.
Exactly.
It is just absurd.
That just, he gets to just lie, and that is such a narrative.
That's something that happens a lot.
Like they like to say, that you find somebody who is great, and Serena Williams is the best
athlete in the world.
Barack Obama became president, he is one of the most prolific speakers, he is one of the
smartest human beings ever.
And it's like well see, racism isn't a thing, because this man was president, this woman
is a star athlete.
There is no racism, it's ridiculous.
So there is no homophobia in America.
This woman is only getting attention.
Yeah, she's one of the best soccer players ever but she's an outspoken lesbian, and that's
why Nike wants her.
What?
>> It's a way of minimizing her talent.
I mean he treated the fact that she's such a talented soccer star.
>> She won the Golden Boot.
>> Yeah, I don't know what that is but that's something.
>> She's the top scorer in the most difficult competition in the Women's Soccer history.
The Woman's World Cup is the pinnacle of Women's Soccer, and she was the highest scorer and
scored the most goals.
So you're the best goal scorer in the toughest competition to exist for your sport, right?
You're not a very very good player.
You're probably one of the five or six best players in the world at the thing that you
do.
The other thing is, well, they can get married now.
And everything's fair.
>> That's it, it's done.
>> And we saw that, exactly right.
We see this with, well, Barack Obama was president, racism is cured, right?
But still.
>> Mictch McConnell essentially said that.
>> Right, absolutely.
>> A lot yeah.
>> But still, in 20-plus states, you can be fired from your job.
>> That's right.
>> Or be kicked out of your apartment.
A lease that you have signed, a binding document can be shredded up because they found out
that you were gay.
So this, even if this is the, let's say, for SNGs, that this is the best time to live for
a lesbian woman.
That doesn't mean that it's a good time to live for a lesbian woman.
That's saying that for ever before this, it was awful.
So now it's slightly less awful and you should just shut up and be happy that we're not still
tying you at the stake and burning you like witches.
That's ridiculous, and if you love this country, if you love people, you should want us to
get to a point where we are not saying, we've incrementally made their lives better, but
that we are absolutely the same.
Listen, no one would have the job that Ben Shapiro has if they looked like me.
Because I am way more entertaining.
Look at me.
It's this camera, right?
I'm way more entertaining.
My skin is flawless.
He's a decade younger, and I promise you I'm way more gorgeous and that's just reality.
Okay.
>> We can do a little comparison, can you see it?
>> I know you see it.
That's just what it is.
>> You see it.
>> And so, you know, the fact that I don't have the following or the platform that he
has, is just proof that racism is real, people.
>> Well, I do want to just make a quick note about an example you brought up, you know,
about Obama.
And once you mentioned Obama, I actually thought about Michelle, because Michelle Obama is
so incredibly intelligent, talented, >> My gosh.
>> kind, she's magic.
>> In a human.
>> She's the best of all of us.
>> Yeah, so Michelle Obama is wonderful, and by the way, very accomplished, obviously,
and the way that she was attacked by the right-wing over everything.
How she was called a gorilla, how they attacked her because she would wear sleeveless dresses
and they thought that was inappropriate.
I mean she was attacked incessantly and then, and look, I don't have a problem with Melania's
modeling career.
I don't care.
In fact I think that it's wrong to attack her for posing nude, because it's not important.
But the way the right wing protects her and treats her as if she is the best first lady
that has ever existed.
When they treated Michelle Obama the way that they did, that should be just one piece of
evidence.
That yeah, maybe things have gotten incrementally better for certain groups of people.
But there's still a lot more progress that needs to be made.
>> Yeah.
And just the fact that they actually, this is actually not the best time in to live in
the world for lesbians, maybe the best time, the max that we have hit was last year.
But now, with this administration, their rights have been, more rights that have been stripped,
that they just barely got.
We did stories about how the government in America was trying to strip citizenship from
adoptive babies of lesbian couples.
That happens now.
>> I don't understand how you guys keep talking about this country and the way that you do,
just because you're factually correct does not mean you have license to say these truths
on air.
We're moonwalking back toward the fifties, and it's not fun at all.