everybody welcome to what the flick our presentation of Homeland
well not the actual show our recap show re-enactment homeland is on Showtime
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I I can't pronounce the first one but neither can you
know I was the geron should garage & Rottier could be dropped Ian
and electrons in for some reason it sounds better role
Bernard a and and then this most recent episode was
red wheelbarrow a red wheelbarrow so a lot has happened
arm I think these observers were out there
like I'll a mother's myself which I knew you were I like this by stuff
and there wasn't a great deal love a
brody's family with Madonna Bruce there
which which we don't with which it was we no longer we just don't really care
but you do not like the daughter
there so many people I like that we why it would not be accurate I think the
character is and always written as well as it could be I
I think you had no in this season what happens that family after such a huge
thing happens you know your dad is accused of being
a terrorist you have to know emotionally was gonna go on with the family now that
the end right now the all seeing is
good but I think their program we're going to see them again because
obviously
retweet back right we after the last you know we have to see I guess clearly
you know brody in the daughter that we have to know what happens to the
daughter no I like our
but I don't I i'm just not interested
in the mechanics of the family I didn't I
aidid her escape with the guy I loved
that as a lot though I've discussed that we we loved the sex scene
like it just felt it felt really real real sort of teenage
passion doing crazy stuff in the world right writer and I love the big speech
to the mother you know a book about why she did it
you know what I I thought that was denied okay great more this week lets
develop this character or with any other may get the whole escapes tarpon
at isolated I'm moving out mom thing
yet no way that mom is like you know what you should do you think the banner
stand with a stranger
yeah I don't know like there's at least a longer conversation with apparent that
there are already lost her husband you don't wanna lose her daughter
as well the poor Chris like what are the
sign global just the rich is well-liked yeah there is eight years of therapy
yeah and I'm like to puberty now right now I'm had our
yeah he told rather humble
whether it would be a disaster out Perry Hall armed
any gangly episode 10 I so body services
though these are about the other failure to keep an eye with a family love
this operation going on and I think we're now setting up what's going to
happen in the the second have the season with rips possible rifts in a family
yeah that's and I i and then the just a little spy
things arms super into II I mean I love that which was the title of the episode
8
you know I love the tax what was the text that you got so much depends upon
thought about violence she finishes with the red wilbur
and then that means the meeting is on on on the on the dummy
on the throwaway phone at the Greek Orthodox Church right as the Greek
Orthodox Church I just II love all the sordid little
great spy things that go on in there was a buncha that
and I like dar dolls meeting
with the lawyer which seems unsuccessful
but wasn't course incredibly should but all they wanted was just gotta a casual
lunch give you a heads up get out in front of this and then
and the way that F murray Abraham sorta looks and processing
what you gonna do as the storms of here I do I just that are not at all cool
customer then minutes later like Gary get the tag area I what's going on right
right so I i that stuff is there I think still really good and I'm
I'm I was down on the show like many or I guess through
three or four episodes butted is certainly a picked up yeah I was just
lost and now I kind of have
this trajectory of where we're headed I'm not quite sure about
all a bit I still there still those questions about what is part of the
strategy
and what might not be part of a strategy what they're like think that's all has
been seeing coming along but at least I have this framework okay we have divided
we're sending them to Iran
and we'll see how that goes and now there's this weird marriage up is weird
family it's a great way to put it
above love people who just like your own family
how the hell are we related what the hell are we all doing here but it all
seems to make great
right now I think you're looking at plan and carry as the
as the son and daughter about their bill against her father Paul I think
it you're setting up the situation worse all is
more mastermind then we have given him credit for
and I think he's feeling his oats and a you know and try and trying to
bring the ca2+ one last burst and Gloria and as he
release all the agency probably decades ago and arm but he's obviously doing
things
secretively that are gonna probably your ball back on them
is he messing with his wife
like is reconciliation with white widget amid
yeah or it is more ability to get now we know the thing about the
you to add the probably is the ability but I i wondered whether
he was hurt by her affair and the fact that she had left him
right even in her return she was still
carrying on with the incredibly handsome program
predictive but what I what I was you right with he just like
did he do all the things that he knew but he is a master manipulator that he
do and say all the things the new would want her back and then he's like
I'm going at Aberdare troops maybe I don't think so I doubt
no bigoted I think it's a couple things happening one you've got
the the the Iranian guy killing his wife
you know and and they have to go way back with all his wife and so
that may be kinda drove home the idea that the important to the relationship
to him
second I think he thinks that his days at the CIA or number the one thing
install Tracy let he's out especially now that you know
he let this this asset go so I think you thinking well I gotta have something to
do with the rest my love rival Mitt remembered
still happening lol I'm so I think that the incentive there I me but but who
knows you're a the
he is playing his cards close to the vest clearly this visit to Brody is
being kept a secret from Carey
so there's a lot of things going on that you know who knows Sol could be more
devious than Dora doll
earlier yeah the the episode was about was about to
like the twin romantic vulnerabilities us all and carry because now you have
Sol basically is you know wanted to reconcile with his wife not seeing the
agent you know under under his nose in it and you know that that
is playing his wife and you had carry on with running the mission because she is
desperate that the father of her child
you need to be exonerated you both so
I it and then almost screws everything and you have these two things that are
played out i think thats
thats is why I love the show the show's always what everyone's byways
always ties around to how it affects human beings and their own like portable
well and the only reason here is not getting an abortion is because it's
brody's be
right you know I like that for that one last piece of the puzzle that she feels
like she has to maintain
a I think under other circumstances but the IAP really I gotta work it right
record
at 11 I'll be there will be wet or too yeah record yeah
that does sound like area that's true arm I'm just glad now and she gets
nervous and throws up
it's because she's pregnant yeah be had for a while it was just like
I am a highly trained operative here and I just get nervous
them I master I believe it
but it is a put most of last season actually break
right and that was the maybe probably like inspired the writers like 10
minutes
moderator writer look good so it was good to know she's all
Libya I am having like or modal fireworks going on like
wow what we're just go away also what a great conversation she had with the dow
I was drinking
a lot I'm you have wasted an hour that Libya I
and they're not going to be a tad yeah I'm okay
I back
the media French women bring to their pregnancy nobody cares you know I
so look at her great Don Draper's kids were gonna
rather II went to a screening the last the
movie screening I was that was a the Vince Vaughn movie delivery man down
and Sally Draper really hope exciting
yeah she's in the Flowers in the Attic re maker do it does arrive yet
why that but with an appropriate seen looks like she belongs in a museum
yeah here film about this still do we think that and that may be the fact that
she's
of lithium and pregnant and hormonal would cause her to do what to me he was
wildly irrational and risk that entire mission
that caused Quinn to actually shoot Arnold or lesser happening I thought she
had a plan
like going up to the you know the the lawyer and saying to him
some great plan some great way of articulating it no one else
in the you know strike team had envisioned where she's like
I've been following you and if it's this easy for me to follow you cannot do this
mom let's do let's come up with another idea for it but
I mean they were right everyone's like with book cover and what I do respect
about the show
is that the guy took the shot right now like carry that's enough by white guy
who might win it
have been leveller yes John Brier I know I'm fairly
I like that about the show the show is basically does the thing that you may be
thinking about
you would imagine that they would have been tribunals do it do we think work
Quinn is so good that he shot her like right shoulder sure she'd
been sorted more into the car park at parking area
and not go down in the parking lot yeah
other than regular guys like I'm gonna kill someone but when I hear someone got
pool
yeah I'm not going to just do that where a lot over the balcony
brevity is the most stressful my to buy light but rather bluntly like that you
know that saw like planned a perfectly and she was hit she
ago but all I was kinda funny like one is the guy only
hold the gun out in like the public one is like
go in closer and then shoot the guy UK by possibly over the director
it when your mad at you professional you know he went along it was probably
different
data is read about it he did do it very quickly and I do like to be dissolved
some guy in a bathtub with acid it was really a great day that is going to make
the
think both through the floor under it I thought that there are happy to bring
you more
remember liking the first season there that house in the dump the added
just think that it comes to the floor under the entrails everywhere
and I was like the British a hotel so maybe it's a plastic cup
that argument data about by that but speaking a breaking bad we we we when we
were talking about the other mandy is a puzzle was or when the
the etymology of all that so we need to mention the geron Tian is this your
celly a poem
about an old man reflecting on the world after world war 1 whereas he spent most
of his life in the nineteenth century
I in the same way that the in that episode you got I was on a contract he
left with the carry the
senator is a the senator but health although he has to get rid of all his
old Cold War bullshit
you know and but clearly the you know bats that still though the whole he
knows how to play the game you know the
it's still very spire is a spy solve my mind that the scenes with Tracy let
are really really well written like particularly well written anywhere
you see are winning the mayim I I'm gonna say what the fuck
Yahoo sound like you're high I
good way to get to the line between reality were but you sound like Bush and
Cheney I do the right thing I've
City absolved thing to be like a new version of what you know whereof the
now they overreacted to 9/11 bro and this is like the way you know is this
all over reacting to the CIA
me know but beer bong at the CIA by like putting in the play an operation like
disco
while Dwyane Wade is being laid down on his desk a regime change a brief yeah
right like
that is out depict is like keep breed it's a project for a new new American
trainer
by I thought that that seen in
and William sadler's office with Tracy letting their attacking
was just of brain injury just great and so after I mean like
at the previously and the scene at the ad in Salt office
with F murray Abraham and Mary but I can't really let
was great to in the previous episode like and that
because you didn't know when you and i talked about we didn't know which way to
store locally a good art always left out on this thing
all the studies like nope that's good spy work I i
yet no I was not okay really well you work together that would probably like
I'm now with you
rather to monitor a quarterback risk like
hired him in paying it like this salary just go to a
ever ever ever met a look at as they say cut them once in the whole thing with
biggest players look like
got you wouldn't rather be with
hear your are but definitely I get the matter
yeah
big-ticket his eyes on the prize you know and whereas like Tracy Letts
character it's all but it seems to be all about pride
fourth our income at completely different your parents there the entire
their the parent star and install and
plan and carry out the children but how can it be in for a lot of forget who we
were right about that but let me just put that but none that
scene because I mean I just that the the
that when Bill Sadler who is also just wonderful just such a professional knows
what he's doing and
and and when he says that kicked raclette that he's right
that are yeah I mean that's just i mean there's not a person watching that show
that wasn't
for got a whole where you at all
intruder the the writers who cover the device me though you know the the reason
where they go the divisive somebody
absolving out in 10 days so that's like its move going to put a clock on the
rest of the season now
which you know just real health threat to the suspense is very very smart
yeah and and it can absorb a classic business thing we have the guys on his
way out who's gonna like
fuck shit up and do everything you always wanted to do because why not
and then you got the new guy who's already coming in with the how are you
put my finger print on everything and show that I am in control here
abide by completing discarding the last guy and totally
you know letting ever know there's a new sheriff in town so I mean this could be
happening if you know any sort of business bank
you know and what you're looking at me how are they gonna play it out with like
the Obama administration
and you know Iraq when it's that you run on this platform up everythings gonna be
different
but everything that everyone in America kinda fell afterwards is that Obama got
like this binder full a very scary thing I like actually
it paid off guarantee any the
I get it now II when people talk about how how crazy the show
get I always going to be like don't you think that if you become president
your first day on the job you get all about stuff that that
into a major air great then they would never imagine going on a million years
what's really at area 51
yeah at yeah they're not mean is that part would like honestly we still can't
tell you
I we just told you about a Leo VI here nor your the mornings we got a touch up
before we go
a the scene with far and her dad yes we like this every federal
net worth right but that right right sort but we're getting to know her
that was the only way it could work in my mind because I was tired of having
yet another character
who like Carey like has these breakdowns when they need to have it together to
get to a certain position
like carries thing is like yes her
yep personality dysfunction is why she's so good in kinda paranoid an able to get
to the bottom of things
and far the reason that she's there is more personal and about the country
I was so frustrated when she likey we need to put him on trial right now
I think how can you be at that position and
will be pushy just got there that they they they they were looking for somebody
right you're not like she didn't know if the line is serious strain exactly so
sober and because obviously she's got family in Iran her father
speaks Farsi was the time but she still you know it it's like my parents came
over from Spain and they always felt Spanish even though they were you know
my dad became a US citizen I think you know sober heard
this guy's crimes that against did his own family but against the country
really bike yeah resonate with her nephews in it
it was a against it was reminding me that she was so new with this
round I was just like it I could have another person like freak out under
pressure triple
I'm not big on speculation Jersey to Billy I think there's a lot you have two
people who now think the same which is
which is for and the senator so I think maybe
you I mean she's upset that delivered has been sent back she think so we catch
a guy you tryin ride
and she's clearly conflicted about this I thought she was mostly upset that she
had played a role in the slaughter
like which I'm is I'll right you know I but me you might be right now it appears
to be happy with it was always the plan to send him back
you know that I going to see her like everything with the Senate where she
goes right to help with their
Remi and I'm saying that then finally it seemed
a because falls wife is sometimes the
good pretties 1 I've ever seen and then other times isn't
a and then this guys so handsome and dashing and then in turn so what he'd do
if he's not just by Ike
you were a budget into work early like Sir it planted a bug in the house right
does he work at four what
well he is i think is I mean is working for up
but you know I think these speculations that is working for for another
for on but we saw no very intriguing already used the stalker
right no way I on our way I
I it's good stuff and then also the final reveal at the end of the episode
where
Sol is going alright yeah I call a ride to the tower
David right i mean i I like it would brody's nada
a very worried about bringing Brody back to you know president was William
you know what is going to happen here when they have those I can we talk right
but I think it but you know
you were here a once you know be there you can be whatever the live yeah said
my I'm I'm afraid that I like I like the idea that Brody
that a picture and and if he signed on to some other show I don't mind the fact
that
that here that maybe he's gonna meet his maker at the Reno the old has been up to
explain wife's alright but our
david is a being a repeat the thing at all that we can talk about the next my
favorite line data shows that we gotta go as when the
salt she's been shot she's lying in this you know and the Breaking Bad van
they're speeding toward a hospital and she polls Quinn toward her
and because she's been shot you think she wants to make sure to mention the
quindoys they tell the doctors
I thought she's gonna say are pregnant and she says
whether back saw I
and I thought that was good you will find out great meal I think by the by
the shipper this is going to a hospital records yeah I get out with a rag doll
major
yeah it'll get out the cheeseburger our guys thanks look forward to working with
your dad next week
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