- The whole purpose of this project
was purely to document history, right?
We were there at these unique, fascinating historic moments
throughout probably the most consequential election
in American politics.
The real sort of premise of the series
is purely just to sort of show that trajectory of how we got --
or how America got to where it got to at the end,
but also it's sort of a fascinating inside portrait
into this incredibly complicated and controversial family.
- He's very honest, and he is who he is.
And I think people love that actually.
- You talk about wanting to humanize them
or just show us that they are humans
because this is a family that has been very stage-managed
and has stage-managed themselves very effectively.
But in the trailer that came out from your film,
they're literally stage-managing their shots, right?
Does it give us insight into their personalities
or what they're thinking about, their control?
- Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think
that they themselves almost remove
some of their humanity by all the stagecraft,
by all the sort of the fascination
and the obsession with the way sort of they come across.
And, look, for sure, when people are being interviewed
or go on camera,
they want to sort of make sure they look okay.
I think the level of detail that goes into them
seeing themselves is pretty fascinating.
I mean, there's that clip of the president
of the United States of America
moving around a glass of water for a minute and a half.
- I don't think you want to have the water in the picture, right?
You can take it.
- Some people may see that as being somebody
who's got immense attention to detail
and he is actually far more on it than people may think,
and others will think it's obviously ludicrous.
This is a family that almost tried to remove the real,
and everything is sort of this facade.
So any sort of ability to sort of go behind that
and sort of see what they're really like
is really interesting.
And people may say that actually the reality is even worse,
perhaps, than the facade.
Or it might be better than the facade.
And why do they do that?
So I think it opens up sort of a whole host of questions
as to who these people are, and what do they really believe,
and do they really know what they're doing?
- Why did the Trump family want to do this?
Why did they want this moment documented?
- They were absolutely convinced they were going to win
the election prior to our start, so therefore,
"Why not get this guy no one's ever heard of
before who is gonna film us win the election?"
The question I still try and work out
is why they continued --
sort of the access that continued after the election.
And then there's also more answers.
There was definitely a mentality as to whether or they
may actually achieve their goal
of potentially overtiming the result.
- When were you last in touch with the Trump family?
- I'm not gonna answer that question.
I'm sorry.
- Have you been in touch with them in recent weeks?
- I'm not -- Ah, yeah, I don't want
to sort of talk about that, too, yeah.
That's too much, but that's okay.
Sorry.
- What is your relationship like with Donald Trump?
You know, do you feel like you were sort of a fly
on the wall sort of witnessing?
Or did you have a relationship?
- I think -- As to his character
and as to sort of how he comes across,
I think this series really does show a side to him,
which is really interesting.
Look, I've always said that they were always on time,
you know, very professional
in terms of the practicalities of the interviews
and their participation in it.
In terms of my feelings, I've made really clear,
which is that I think it's incredibly dangerous
and irresponsible for a president of the United States
to take umbrage with the most important part
of any sort of functioning democracy.
Can we talk for a minute about January 6?
Yep. It's always there.
Like, it's always sort of in the back of your mind.
Any sort of interaction you have,
you're sort of thinking, like, you know --
Like, you can't really engage sort of too well
with somebody who has done something that's so damaging.