so back with John John Ward do your bit do your bit do your bit of the start of the videos all
right out there hello I'm JW back here in Tresham college with the students um we've
had a look in the first video again with you you talked us through some of these let's not use um
antiques but they're nearly there on the warrant systems and consumers union and we're just going
to bring it to life now with where we've gone from and to when we have a little look at some of these
myths here John flowers here so yeah this is your current metal type consumer unit what's this wall
x1 let's don't make them I do still make them and we've seen the older versions out you know they've
progress under Twitter city are you happy with those are CD's John are you comfortable of the
a/c ones know the modern warrants isn't really no problem with those is that they were okay
win their day as which was basically a resistive loads but pretty much everything these days isn't
a resistive load and therefore native that's why varsity are pretty much numbered yeah even today
one of my little students brought a picture of a consumer unit in that they've been working on
in the last six months and it had a AC RCDs and I said to him describe the insulation to me LED
downlight as orestes oh yeah that we should be not even producing them all in suggests we
should be phase those out A type minimum but they're still making a mess still selling
them yeah what sort of distribution would you fitting do you fit our RCBO's would you see me
is not gonna do much now because I you're very successful YouTube channel and website I think
they find but yeah it's our RCBO's Hager usually okay yeah I'm a big fan of the new hangar boards
and they've called it the 18th edition board for marketing but it introduces the fact they've put
surge in a domestic board as well and you know in your video suggests that do we have to put a surge
protection device in a domestic dwelling in theory now absolutely manufacturers of course would like
you to put them in course they won't they would wouldn't they because they're selling the things
that's one of them but price point for me at sixty quid and if it's already in the board yeah it's
not huge knowing you tell is worth two and a half thousand quid I never eat your plugins you know
iPads 2,000 pound to a thousand quid knowing its and if they only are CBO's they're high-priced
anyway so in terms of additional cost it's not a huge amount of RC there's basically have you
failed in such I have not okay so that would you do a video perhaps when you've done that for yes
yeah yeah that's good because you've done a few on so I love to your volt drop one where you had was
there a joint joint in the road and an issue did it yeah only she had a really big volt dropping to
turn the cattle on didn't you yeah that one it was where the limit on his head on present lights they
wouldn't switch on at certain times of the day because they are the old magnetic ballasts so like
the voltage was too low for it to strike okay and then it says at that Sun fault in the road which
they eventually came along and replaced and did you help them find that by finding the fault in
that house or was it just a coincidence ooo places well there was several houses actually ported it
so well get one of those and the audience a but but that volt drop things brilliant all of that
video that was huge yeah what aspect was turning on the kettle also yeah a massive drop and you
explained the calculation brilliantly afterwards so we might find out in the future if you do fit
an SPD you've dinner perhaps do a little video or Lisa a talk over of how you fit it etc there
is some issues about the distance it can be away from the conductor length being half a meter to a
meter I think anything but they like are for me but it can be a meet job but are for me - yes I
sort of here's a little bit well actually change it as well just to make it more confusing yeah
yeah that's what more video hasn't come out on it yet John it's over one weird the same physician
and we're also in a situation where so they're quite new anyway so some manufactures M&S he got
him yet and some most and have them yeah you said our CBO so you'll fit in our CBO so we've got up
to two versions here fan of the miniature 100 are you still stickier I returned done many maybe if
you want to do some initial ones because there's so much more space in the top of it they say see
nice together some boards aren't too bad they don't spend how much space you got but some of
them you put this in and he got like about a half inch above it you can't even see to get them wide
in there so that's what somebody said to me quite royally because obviously we've got the combined
miniature RCB own arc fault detection device why didn't they just keep it this size and actually
strap the art fault detection device technology on the top so rather than taking it down the size
and then trying to cram it and what didn't keep it the original no way I can't answer that one is a
really good question since obviously it does don't when someone stated to you think that was a really
good idea that I didn't think of yeah these are twin module in the face of that woman me triple
that's a triple module so we're back to double decker consume units in the previous yeah we're
gonna round on the top and bottom because of just the sheer achieve what room that the furnitures
going to take up fault detection fan or no fan are no ninjas not not a fan yet could be convinced
otherwise but what we're seeing so far definitely not is that based on the fact you couldn't get one
to operate partially okay and well yeah cost as well and in there 200 quid sort of area and the
intention for the manufacturers is you have one per circuit for all the circuits if you've seen
the I think it's while X have put up some lovely leaflet showing this thing about this size of six
circuits in service protection at the end AFC DS for six circuits that's all you're talking about
2,000 pound consuming in it I felt it up being a big seller but they may come down in price its
first technologies austere you think of the first mobile phone the first flat spring tele etcetera
and they're always big price first curve TV etc massive price is hopefully they'll come down but
it's not it's not that must-have purchase is it coming to my property and if you swing a
left there and look up you'll see that I've spent 2,000 pound on what consumers unit it's not really
gotten a swing with it as it yeah I guess don't domestic certainly most people don't care they
just went to work that's all they care about yeah absolutely a card sell and the art fault
detection device I don't think likes a ring fondle circuit you know anyone else John that might not
like a ring for it also yeah that could be me I so yeah how about that sir they're fine if they
use what their purpose was but the problem is that a lot of places now they're putting them in you're
gonna have like a ring for the ground floor and a ring for upstairs and ring for the kitchen and the
ring for the utility room and it's like what was the point of all that largely and I'm see a FD DS
don't like um so we've got an issue there that it doesn't like a serial arc on those and obviously
we know we've been testing them today and I said to somebody message to me before you came and said
I hope he'll not do ring circuit testing really when John arrives and I went no we ha it's gonna
love that when he turns up unfortunately it's a requirement obviously testing for success would
be new today but you're quite rightly you know lock a lot of people not a massive fan of them
for loads of reasons I mean when they were done it was the intention was it was one for the whole
house and Spurs were part of the original design so it's not as if Spurs are some kind of thing
about on later it was intended that you put one in the middle of the house and then your sockets
around the and she actually wants to burst when it was in store from new ok and that's where the
it saves cable thing came from because it did at the time it was pretty much that he just had
individual radios going out from a central fuse box all over the place so in that regard he does
but now it doesn't save cable for they actually wait is cable in law cases and then he got people
say putting them in just for one room or two room until I put my shed I'm gonna put a ring
suck it in my shed with three sockets on it so yeah nonsense really and issues with losing part
of the ring so you've ended up to effectively having two radios fuse it may be thirty two
amps and very caring capacity of the cables or it just becomes a more you field of problems where
and which discussed over the students you lose a radial part way for the circuit the customers
going to bring someone because part of the circuit isn't working whereas obviously the
issue it doesn't even be ringing as if you've got one and you've got all the loads stuck at
one end of it you can still overload the cable yes because you got all the high-low say one end and
consuming it so definitely not ideal know if you saw it think sparking into did a lovely one about
balancing ring circuits and which by round the currents card so again that links in with that
is actually quite complex on the other hand again to pass I'll leave it to you and misdemeanor thing
when it gets complicated so our CD test labels I've got with none of you see the new one yet
because they're really difficult so odd to me to present you with a new test label have you seen
one John oh there you go they are very difficult my good friend Matthew ozell on cycle immaculate
managed to get me hold of one that says it needs to be not expressed every six months where we can
express it every three months beforehand yeah why at six months now well we're doing every
three months so if we don't sakes it's obviously gonna be done then isn't it only for six months or
is it you could say well if you test it when the clocks go back or something that at least it's
a bit more member of all that yeah six months now instead of every year so I suppose you'll
test your smoke detectors at the same time won't ya theoretical making sure you change them every
ten years that's right that's absolutely yeah all those things that happen yeah absolutely do
you recommend that when you go to an installation and check the smoke detectors for a ten-year date
on them usually yeah good let's say a fair number as well yeah that are miles out yeah absolutely
again of all the things in your house that's one of the most important things that yeah and you see
I mean this you can tell a lot I'm just looking out there been up there for 20 years yes yes
painted over with emotion and all other things that should never happen but of course they do
yeah I've been to some white certainly that love the rented ones where you go there and it's like
oh we just want this stop it change it's like you didn't know your smoke alarms are grossly
out of date and you didn't know this consuming it was hanging off the wall cuz he's only got
one screw holding on the back and they just in what cases don't care but we do that's amazing
John John with you care I believe you've joined e5 as well yeah so we've joined 85 members as I
ruled the team electrical here because we believe in the policy for e5 yeah yeah okay and that's one
that we followings we've gone through we are we about there John shall we shall we shall
we shall we end it more wagon shi Wu chuan do ya as well okay so we hope this video has been some
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