>>> paul ryan says the fight over the budget isn't some simple negotiation. he says house
republicans aren't just trying to score political points.
>> look at these people, look at these new people who just got here. you know, they didn't
come here for a political career.
>> that's right.
>> they came here for a cause. this is not a budget this is a cause.
>> but what is that cause? is it ideological or is it really financial? ie, to help richest
people in the country? that is a not a theoretical question, it's real, 'cause there are people
in this country who have decided that buying our government is a really good investment.
and they are real people and two of them happen to be brothers. their names are charles and
david koch. they are the billionaire brothers who own koch industries, an oil and gas giant.
the koch brothers are everywhere. now a new report from the center for american progress
spells out the full reach of their political empire. the story starts in 1980 when david
koch was the libertarian party's vice presidential candidate. david koch's platform was far,
far right of ronald reagan. he wanted to eliminate corporate taxes all together. he wanted to
abolish social security and are you ready for this? koch even called for getting rid
of public schools entirely. but it didn't work out. they lost to reagan, who was far
too much of a lefty for their taste. so, the koch brothers came to an interesting conclusion.
if you can't beat them, buy them. instead of trying to be politician they started using
their money to influence politicians which proved to be a far more effective strategy.
first, they needed to give their extremist ideology the veneer of credibility. so they
began funding the so-called think tanks. and the last 15 years alone, they have given $85
million to 85 different groups. some of the amounts are jaw-dropping. according to the
center for american progress, they gave over $13 million to the kate toe institute during
that period, 12 million to the citizens for a sound economy. 4 million to the heritage
foundation. in other words, when you hear someone from the cato institute quoted in
the news and he is casting doubt on global warming, keep in mind that charles koch actually
founded the cato institute and that koch industries subsidiaries have paid millions in environmental
fines. that's not some neutral objective report you are hearing from the cato institute, it's
a report that was bought and paid for by koch industries for a very specific purpose, so
they can make more money by avoiding pollution regulations. the think tanks are to influence
politician and end debate in d.c. but in case that's too subtle, they also decided to actually
invest a lot of money directly into politicians themselves. they have given $11 million to
federal candidates since 1990, 89% of that, of course, went to republicans. seeing that
the strategy is working, they have actually stepped up their spending recently. americans
for prosperity, which reportedly gets millions from the koch brothers, spent $45 million
in the last election. in that last election, koch industries political action committee
gave to 62 of the 87 freshmen house republicans. and this is a koch-fueled congress. the cops
and their affiliates gave to 13 gubernatorial candidates in the last cycle. of course, ten
of them were republicans. they also gave $1 million to the republican governors association.
the list of governors they helped to elect include scott walker and john kasich, both
of them who just happen to be rabid union busters. and that brings us to where we are
in politics today. governor walker attacks the unions. house republicans go after the
epa and now paul ryan targets those pesky little safety nets, medicare and medicaid.
the koch brothers are closing in on checkmate. citizens united allowed them to pour an unlimited
amount of money into political campaigns. and now they have announced plans to spend
$88 million on the 2012 election. they figured out the matrix. our politicians are up for
sale and it's a good return on their investment and the cops plan to do a lot more buying.
with me now is tony carp, the policy director for the center for american progress action
war room and the aught ovthor of that new report.
>> great to be with you.
>> great to have you here this had isn't just about the koch
brothers, anybody about: buy politician and a lot of billionaires and millionaires do
they are a perfect example here. what i found interesting is the first thing they did was
to go buy the think tanks why do you think they did that?
>> i think they wanted to number one, keep their money under the radar, so they were
funding the right-wing think tanks that could start building the policy case for the agenda
that they are trying to push and that agenda is one that puts their business interests
above those of middle class families.
>> and they seem to have really stepped up their spending these days and they have a
lot more public profile, partly because of some of the research that's been done on them,
partly by you guys, us, et cetera, but it seems like they were a little bit more brazen.
you think that's because of citizens united, they think what difference does it make, we
can buy these elections anyway we like? w who care it is people know?
>> i think citizens united is a part of that but i also think it was just the situation,
the environment that we are in now, where there was a lot of public anger in 2009 after
the economy was brought to its knees and they were able be to, you know, help organize the
tea party rallies and kind of use that public anger to help further their ideological agenda
to get rid of government, help pad their profits and at the same time, going to be hurting
everyone else.
>> i think a perfect storm. you have the tea party coming in, citizens united that lets
them spend unlimited money. at the same time, my god this is a better return on investment
than i imagined. the republicans giving us everything we wanted, right, put all that
together, you think it is winning time, right?
>> exactly. i think if you look at the success they had in the 2010 elections,ing if you
look at now the house, energy and commerce committee, the koch industries the single
largest oil and gas contributory that committee and that committee is the one that oversees
energy policy in this country, also regulates carbon emission, things they have a personal
interest in because that is what their business interest s
>> i want to give the audience some facts on that, that it is amazing. they have given
to 22 republicans on that committee, a total of $279,500. they have also given to five
democrats on that he committee, total of $32,000 because they are in the energy business of
course they will go buy the energy committee. you know there is a note from the hill, which
was great. house democrat jerry connolly says he wants to change the title of the bill that
would go after epa to the koch brother appreciation act. how accurate is that? i mean, how swamped
is that energy committee by koch money?
>> i mean, i think the facts speak for themselves, the numbers that you just threw out i think
show exactly the type of influence that they have on that committee and i would also add
to that that the head of the americans for prosperity co-authored an op ed with the chairman
of the house energy and commerce committee on just how bad the epa would be to regulate
carbon emissions. so it's money on one hand but it is also the access that they have with
the lawmakers as well.
>> well, we saw that access in wisconsin, when the fake koch brother called governor
walker. governor walker spent 20 minutes with him, yeah, let me tell you how we are going
to bust the unions. by the way, you bust the unions, you start public and go to private,
hey, that lowers the cost for koch industries because they have to pay their employees less
it all works out for koch at the end. i want to ask you about the tea parties. you mentioned
that earlier. how much are they involved in the tea party movement?
>> well, i think -- a lot of this i would like to say, a lot of research done by my
colleagues at think progress, just when the tea parties began and who helped organize
them, who helped give them materials and show them the way that -- to protest government
and to make their voices heard. when you look back at that, a lot of that went through americans
for prosperity which goes back to charles and david koch. so i think from the -- even
one employee said that their job was to stimulate the tea party, that they didn't necessarily
create it, per se, but they definitely help it had along.
>> right. and i got to be honest it was a brilliant strategy, because i mean, they have
got all these guys who are now doing them favors, trying to kill the epa for the koch
industries. you know, it is money well spent. tony carrk, great research. thank you for
joining us. really appreciate it.
>> thank you for having me.