FACE,
FACE, AND
FACE, AND HOPEFULLY IT WILL BE SOCIALLY DISTANCED AND IN
PERSON SOONER THAN LATER.
>> YES, SENDING A SOCIALLY
DISTANCED HUG TO YOU AND ALL
THE CREW.
THE CREW.
THE CREW. >> WE'LL SEE YOU LATER.
>>> FIRST UP THIS MORNING, WE
ARE TALKING WITH THE TEAM
BEHIND KING 5'S NEW SHOW AIRING
SUNDAY NIGHTS THAT'S TAKING A
DEEPER LOOK AT RACISM AND IT
THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST AND BE
ON.
ON.
ON. KING
ON. KING 5'S JOYCE TAYLOR, CHRISTIN
AYERS, AND TAYLOR WERE FENDER
RESCUE EXPLAIN.
RESCUE EXPLAIN. >> SO "FACING RACE" IS A
PROGRAM FOR EVERYONE OF ALL
RACES, AND IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY
FOR PEOPLE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT
RACE, RACISM, PROFILING,
POLICING, AND ALL DIFFERENT
KINDS OF ISSUES AROUND RACE
THAT MAYBE THEY HAVE NOT BEEN
EXPOSED TO BEFORE THEY WANT TO
LEARN MORE ABOUT.
AND IT IS ALSO AN OPPORTUNITY
TO MEET THEIR NEIGHBORS, PEOPLE
WHO LIVE RIGHT HERE IN OUR
NORTHWEST COMMUNITY WHO ARE
PEOPLE OF COLOR AND SEE THAT
MAYBE IN A WAY THEY HAVE NOT
SEEN THEM BEFORE BECAUSE THEY
DON'T KNOW VERY MANY PEOPLE OF
COLOR.
COLOR.
COLOR. BUT IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US
TO HAVE SOME CONVERSATIONS AND
SOME DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS
TOO ABOUT THE ISSUES AROUND RACE
THAT I THINK A REALLY TOP OF
MIND RIGHT NOW ACROSS THE
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY.
COUNTRY. >> THE NOTION OF BEING
UNCOMFORTABLE IS SORT OF A
FUNDAMENTAL PART OF IT, RIGHT,
BECAUSE WE CAN'T HAVE THESE
CONVERSATIONS UNLESS WE CAN
ACKNOWLEDGE THEY ARE GOING TO
BE UNCOMFORTABLE.
BE UNCOMFORTABLE. >> TRUE, SO WE ACTUALLY WANT TO
PUSH THAT ENVELOPE OF PEOPLE
BEING UNCOMFORTABLE, BUT WE
ALSO WANT THEM TO BE OPEN TO
HEARING, LISTENING, AND NEW
IDEAS TO EMBRACE NEW IDEAS THAT
MAYBE THEY HAVE NOT BEFORE.
TO THINK EVEN OUTSIDE THE BOX.
YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS IN THIS DAY
AND AGE, EVERYTHING SEEMS TO BE
SO POLARIZING, BUT WHAT IF WE
TRIED TO SEE SOMETHING FROM
SOMEONE ELSE'S POINT OF VIEW?
>> CHRISTIN, HOW DID THIS COME
TO BE?
TO BE?
TO BE? >>
TO BE? >> OBVIOUSLY IN THE PAST
SEVERAL MONTHS, WE SAW THE
KILLING OF GEORGE FLOYD IN THE
MONTH OF MAY, AND THE NUMBER
PROTESTS THAT FOLLOWED AFTER
THAT.
THAT.
THAT. KING 5 HAS BEEN AT THE
FOREFRONT OF HAVING AND
ADDRESSING THINGS THAT ARE
HAPPENING, YOU KNOW, NOT JUST
IN THE PACIFIC NORTHWEST OR
WESTERN WASHINGTON, BUT ALL
OVER THE COUNTRY, SO IT ONLY
MADE SENSE TO SORT OF SIT BACK
AND LOOK AT WHAT SOME OF THE
DEEPER ISSUES ARE THAT WE COULD
UNCOVER WHEN IT COMES TO
TALKING ABOUT RACE.
THERE IS A LOT OF POLLING OUT
THERE RIGHT NOW, WHERE PEOPLE
ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THINGS
LIKE WHAT SYSTEMIC RACISM IS,
WHAT IT MEANS TO BE ANTIRACIST,
AND IT FELT LIKE WE NEEDED TO
MEET THIS MOMENT AND START
TALKING ABOUT AND TRYING TO
ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS
THAT PEOPLE ALL AROUND US ARE
ASKING IN OUR SOLAR OPEN TO
RIGHT NOW, AND SO, YOU KNOW,
THERE WAS SOME TALK WITH
MANAGEMENT WHETHER WE SHOULD DO
SOMETHING LIKE A TOWN HALL OR
SOMETHING LIKE THAT, AND THAT
CONVERSATION JUST GREW AND
GREW, AND WE STARTED LOOKING
BACK AT A PROGRAM THAT KING 5
DID BACK IN THE 60s AND 70s AS
THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT WAS
GOING ON CALLED "FACE-TO-FACE."
IT SHOWED THAT KING 5 HAS BEEN
TRYING TO HAVE THESE
CONVERSATIONS OVER THE YEARS
IN DIFFERENT WAYS, AND IT WAS
TIME TO REVIVE THAT
CONVERSATION, AND THAT'S REALLY
WHAT "FACING RACE" IS.
>> FASCINATING, AND I HAVE TO
SAY A LITTLE DEPRESSING THAT
WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE SOME OF
THE SAME FUNDAMENTAL
CONVERSATIONS WE WERE HAVING 50
YEARS AGO, BUT IT'S GREAT WE
ARE HAVING THEM, ONE OF THE
THINGS I THINK THAT IS SO GREAT
ABOUT THIS SHOW AND HOW YOU
GUYS ARE PUTTING IT TOGETHER IS
IT'S REALLY A MIX OF PERSONAL
STORIES AND PROFESSORS AND
DOCTORS AND EVERY DAY PEOPLE AT
THE BEACH, SORT OF WEIGHING IN
AND HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS.
TAYLOR, HOW DO YOU PUT ALL THIS
TOGETHER?
TOGETHER?
TOGETHER? WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO ACTUALLY
PRODUCE THIS SHOW?
>> I MYSELF AM I NOT DOING IT
ALONE IF WE HAVE REPORTERS AND
A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THIS TEAM
THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO
TELLING THE STORIES.
REALLY, IT'S A MIXTURE OF
COMING UP WITH STORIES THAT
WILL SHOW PEOPLE THE, FRANKLY,
HARD REALITY OF WHAT IT'S LIKE
WITH RACIAL INJUSTICE IN OUR
COUNTRY TODAY, BUT ALSO PICKING
STORIES THAT ARE SOLUTION
ORIENTED AND MOVE THE
CONVERSATION FORWARD, SO
WHETHER THAT BEING -- I
RECENTLY DID A STORY OF AN
ARTIST WHO IS FIGHTING RACISM
THROUGH ART, AND HE HAD THIS
INNOVATIVE WAY TO MAKE PEOPLE
HAVE IT CLICK, YOU KNOW, JUST
TO SEE THESE LIVES LOST BY
POLICE IN A DIFFERENT WAY, AND
FOR HIM THAT WAS A SOLUTION TO
HAVING PEOPLE NOT JUST BECOME
JADED TO WHAT WE SEE IN THE
HEADLINES EVERY DAY, AND THERE
ARE OTHER STORIES WE'RE WORKING
ON, WHERE WE'RE FINDING
INNOVATIVE WAYS THAT WE ARE
DOING THINGS IN A LOT OF
DIFFERENT AREAS THAT WE CAN
TAKE ACTION IN ORDER TO MAKE
OUR SOCIETY A MORE INCLUSIVE
AND EQUITABLE PLACE.
>> THAT STORY ABOUT THE ARTIST
IS SO GOOD.
IF YOU GUYS HAVE NOT WATCHED IT
YET, IT IS EPISODE TWO OF GO
BACK AND WATCH THE ENTIRE
EPISODE.
EPISODE.
EPISODE. THE OTHER THING THAT I THINK IS
SO GREAT ABOUT IT IS, TAYLOR,
YOU SAID TRYING TO MOVE THINGS
FORWARD AND GO DEEPER THAN WE
HAVE BEFORE, AND JOYCE, ONE OF
THE THINGS I THOUGHT WAS SO
INTERESTING IS THE SORT OF
LESSONS THAT WE'RE LEARNING
FROM WATCHING THESE ABOUT THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN OVERT RACISM
AND IMPLICIT BIAS OR SYSTEMIC
RACISM, THAT THESE ARE ALL
DIFFERENT THINGS THAT MIGHT
HAVE SIMILAR CONSEQUENCES THAT
THEY ARE DIFFERENT THINGS, AND
PEOPLE SHOULD RECOGNIZE ALL OF
THEM AS EXISTING.
>> IT IS SO TRUE.
I'M GLAD YOU BRING UP THOSE
DIFFERENT TERMS BECAUSE ONE OF
THE THINGS WE ARE PROVIDING ON
KING5.COM IS THIS INCREDIBLE
RESOURCE GUIDE, SO WHETHER
PEOPLE WANT TO GET THEIR
INFORMATION ONLINE, IN BOOKS,
IN MOVIES, IF THEY NEED LINKS
TO LEARN MORE ABOUT A
PARTICULAR ASPECT OF INEQUITY
OR SOCIAL JUSTICE OR RACIAL
INEQUITIES OR POLICING OR
PROFILING OR NAME SOMETHING
UNDER THE UMBRELLA OF RACE AND
EQUITY. WE HAVE THIS
INCREDIBLE RESOURCE GUIDE AT
KING5.COM/ FACINGRACE, WHERE
PEOPLE CAN GET MORE INFORMATION
SO IF YOU WANT TO LEARN MORE
ABOUT MICROAGGRESSIONS, YOU CAN
FIND OUT WHAT THAT IS.
IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHAT
IT MEANS TO BE PROFILED, OR
LOOK AT REAL STATISTICS THAT
WILL BEAR OUT THAT THIS IS NOT
JUST AN IDEA OR SOMETHING THAT
HAPPENED JUST POSSIBLY IN THE
NORTHWEST OR IN THIS POLICE
DEPARTMENT OR MAYBE NOT THAT
ONE, BUT WE HAVE STATISTICS AND
INFORMATION THAT WILL SUPPORT
THE STORIES THAT WE ARE TELLING.
AND SO I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT
THAT UP.
THAT UP.
THAT UP. BUT IT IS TRUE.
WHATEVER IT IS THAT PEOPLE ARE
INTERESTED IN LEARNING, EVEN IF
THEY ARE STARTING AT THE VERY
BEGINNING, MAYBE THEY HAVEN'T
EVEN EVER HAD A CONVERSATION
WITH SOMEONE ABOUT THEIR
EXPERIENCE ABOUT WHAT IT MEANS
TO BE A PERSON OF COLOR IN THIS
COUNTRY, OR TO RAISE A SON OF
COLOR IN THIS COUNTRY, OR TO
HAVE THAT TALK WE HAVE WITH OUR
KIDS ABOUT HOW TO ACT IF THEY
ARE EVER IN AN INTERACTION WITH
A POLICE OFFICER.
THEY CAN GO TO KING5.COM AND
FIND INFORMATION OR RESOURCES
FOR THAT, SO NOW THERE'S JUST
NO EXCUSE FOR SOMEONE TO BE
IGNORANT ABOUT WHAT IS