SOBOROFF, DASHA BURNS, GARRETT
HAAKE WITH THAT COMPREHENSIVE
LOOK AT WHATS HAPPENING ON
IMMIGRATION.
>>> SWITCHING GEARS TODAY,
BOULDER, COLORADO, CONTINUES TO
MOURN TEN PEOPLE WHO DIED IN
THAT SHOOTING AT A SUPERMARKET
EARLIER THIS WEEK, AS THE
SUSPECT WILL HAVE HIS FIRST
HEARING.
STEVE PATTERSON IS JOINING US
NOW.
WE UNDERSTAND YOURE WITH TWO
PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY KNOW THE
SUSPECT.
WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT WHAT
THEYRE SHARING WITH YOU?
>> WELL, I CAN SHARE THAT
DIRECTLY.
THESE ARE TWO PEOPLE THAT WENT
TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH THE
21-YEAR-OLD SUSPECT, AS YOU
MENTIONED NOW IN CUSTODY, FACING
TEN COUNTS OF MURDER AND
EXPECTED TO BE IN COURT
TOMORROW.
MEANTIME, WE CAN ASK THAT.
JORDAN AND ANGEL HERNANDEZ, BOTH
OF YOU WENT TO HIGH SCHOOL WITH
THE SUSPECT.
HOW WELL DID YOU KNOW HIM?
>> I KNOW HIM PRETTY WELL.
WE WERE ON THE SAME WRESTLING
TEAM.
FROM WHAT I KNOW AND WHAT I SAW,
HE WAS SUCH A GOOD GUY, A REALLY
DECENT MAN.
>> TAYLOR?
>> OTHER THAN SEEING HIM AT
SCHOOL, I TALKED TO HIM QUITE
OFTEN.
SOMETIMES ON A DAILY BASIS,
SOMETIMES EVERY OTHER DAY, YOU
KNOW.
IT JUST DEPENDED ON HOW MY DAY
WAS GOING OR HIS DAY WAS GOING,
JUST STUFF LIKE THAT.
>> Reporter: WE ARE NOT
ESTABLISHING A MOTIVE FOR THE
SHOOTING.
POLICE ARE INVESTIGATING THAT,
OBVIOUSLY.
ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID HEAR
WAS ABOUT ANGER ISSUES THAT
AHMAD HAD IN HIGH SCHOOL.
ANGEL, CAN YOU SPEAK TO ANY
INSTANCES THAT HE GOT ANGRY?
AND EXPLAIN WHY.
WE UNDERSTAND THERE WAS AN
INSTANCE ON THE WRESTLING TEAM.
TELL US ABOUT THAT.
>> YEAH.
HE DID.
HE GOT ANGRY ONCE.
WE HAD WRESTLE-OFF JUNIOR
VARSITY.
DETERMINES WHO IS ON JV, WHO IS
ON VARSITY.
UNFORTUNATELY, HE LOST.
HE GOT ANGRY AND HE THREATENED
TO KILL ALL THE WRESTLERS AND
YELLED AT THE WRESTLING COACH
BUT, YOU KNOW, AFTER THAT, I
NEVER WRESTLED WITH HIM AGAIN.
>> SO HE WAS CUT FROM THE
VARSITY TEAM ESSENTIALLY AND
THEN YELLED IM GOING TO KILL
YOU?
>> NO, HE WAS CUT BECAUSE OF
WHAT HE DID.
>> WHAT DID HE DO?
>> HE LOST.
HE THREW HIS HEAD GEAR AND HE
WAS LIKE, IM GOING TO KILL YOU
GUYS.
I DIDNT THINK HE MEANT ANY OF
THAT.
IF YOU REALLY GOT TO KNOW HIM, I
DIDNT THINK HE WAS GOING TO DO
NOTHING WITH THAT.
ALL OF US WERE KIND OF SHOCKED
BUT, YOU KNOW, ITS JUST THE WAY
HE ACTED AND STUFF AND WHAT HE
SAID, THEY HAVE TO TAKE
PRECAUTIONS WITH IT.
>> WE ALSO HEARD ABOUT BULLYING
IN HIGH SCHOOL, AND HEARING THAT
HE WAS BULLIED AND PERHAPS
BULLIED BECAUSE OF HIS FAITH AS
A MUSLIM.
CAN YOU TALK TO THAT?
>> SO, I WITNESSED RACIAL SLURS,
PEOPLE MAKING FUN OF HIS LAST
NAME.
>> Reporter: YOU HEARD THE
SLURS?
>> YEAH.
AND I WOULD HEAR THE WHOLE NINE
YARDS.
>> Reporter: WHAT DID THEY SAY
TO HIM, TAYLOR?
>> THEY WOULD MAKE TERRORIST
JOKES WITH HIM AND, YOU KNOW, AS
MUCH AS I WOULD LOVE TO GIVE UP
THE STORY, I JUST DONT FEEL
COMFORTABLE TALKING ABOUT WHAT
THEY SAID.
>> Reporter: DID HE BECOME ANGRY
BECAUSE OF THOSE COMMENTS,
THINGS THAT PEOPLE WOULD SAY TO
HIM?
>> SO I BELIEVE IT GOT TO A
CERTAIN POINT WHERE HE COULDNT
HANDLE IT ANYMORE, AND HIS ANGER
WENT FROM THERE.
>> Reporter: AND THOSE INSTANCES
OF ANGER, GUYS, LED TO FIGHTING
AS WE HEARD.
COULD YOU DESCRIBE AN INSTANCE
WHERE THERE WAS A FIGHT?
>> I WASNT INVOLVED OR SAW ANY
OF THE FIGHTS.
I DID HEAR ABOUT SOME OF THEM,
YOU KNOW, WHETHER THERE WAS A
KID IN HIGH SCHOOL IN THE
CLASSROOM AND HE MADE FUN OF HIS
LAST NAME, BECAUSE OF THE NAME
HE HAD.
AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST THINK THE
NONSTOP OF BEING RACIST AND ALL THE BAD STUFF THAT THEYRE
THE BAD STUFF THAT THEYRE
SAYING TO HIM, YOU KNOW, WHO
WOULDNT GET TIRED OF IT?
AT SOME POINT I KNEW HE WAS
GOING TO SNAP.
IF HE GOT MAD SOMETIMES HE
COULDNT CONTROL HIMSELF.
BESIDES THAT, THERES NOTHING
BAD ABOUT HIM.
BREAK MYSELF HEART TO SEE IT.
JUST SUPER SHOCKING.
>> Reporter: AS FAR AS YOU COULD
TELL, THE BULLYING WAS NONSTOP,
IT WAS OFTEN?
>> YEAH.
>> Reporter: AND THE BULLYING
WOULD LEAD TO OUTBURSTS IN ANGER
AND SOME FIGHTING.
DID HE HAVE A SUPPORT SYSTEM DID
HE HAVE A FRIEND GROUP IN HIGH SCHOOL HE COULD RELY ON AND TALK
SCHOOL HE COULD RELY ON AND TALK
THIS STUFF OUT, TAYLOR?
>> I DONT KNOW.
HE HUNG OUT WITH KIDS HERE AND
THERE.
HE WOULD TALK TO ME
OCCASIONALLY, CHECK UP ON ME, ON
HIM.
I DIDNT WANT TO FORCE IT, PUSH
IT.
>> ANGEL, YOU SAW HIM AFTER HIGH
SCHOOL, A FEW MONTHS AGO.
>> A MONTH AND A HALF, TWO
MONTHS AGO.
>> Reporter: WHAT HAPPENED IN
YOUR MEETING?
WHAT DID YOU TALK ABOUT?
>> I HAD A DOORDASH ORDER.
I WENT IN THE RESTAURANT AND HE
WAS LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU DOING
HERE?
I SAID I HAD A DOORDASH ORDER.
HE SAID NICE.
ITS BEEN A MINUTE.
HOW ARE YOU DOING?
I TOLD HIM IM GOING THROUGH
SOME STUFF AND HE SAID HE WAS
GOOD.
AND LETS HANG OUT SOME TIME.
SEEING HIM THEN AND NOW, YOU
KNOW, ITS LIKE, DID SOMEONE SAY
SOMETHING TO HIM, DID THEY DO
SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE TO
SEE THIS, I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT
THIS WAS EVER GOING TO HAPPEN.
>> THERE HAVE BEEN REPORTS OF
HIM BEING PARANOID AND ISOLATED.
DID YOU GET A SENSE OF THAT THE
LAST TIME YOU SAW HIM A FEW
MONTHS AGO?
>> NO, SIR.
>> Reporter: NO?
>> THE LAST TIME I EVER SAW THAT
WAS BACK IN 2017.
>> Reporter: THIS IS HIGH
SCHOOL?
>> YES, SIR.
HE WOULD LOOK AROUND AND HE WAS
A LITTLE PARANOID. BUT NOTHING, YOU KNOW, OUT OF
BUT NOTHING, YOU KNOW, OUT OF
THE ORDINARY THAT WE GOT INTO.
I DONT KNOW WHAT HAPPENED
BEHIND CLOSED DOORS.
I DONT WANT PEOPLE TO MAKE HIM
SEEM LIKE HES A TERRORIST.
I GOT TO KNOW HIM.
I GOT TO WRESTLE WITH HIM.
YEAH, HE HAD HIS FAULTS BUT HE
WAS A GOOD GUY WHO BELIEVED
STRONG IN HIS FAITH AND I SEND
MY PRAYERS OUT TO HIM AND MOST CERTAINLY TO EVERYONE WHO LOST
CERTAINLY TO EVERYONE WHO LOST
SOMEBODY.
>> THE GUYS, THANK YOU.
THAT IS A PERSPECTIVE FROM
PEOPLE WHO WENT TO SCHOOL WITH
HIM, WHO WERE FRIENDS WITH HIM,