- Hi, welcome to our show.
- Today, we have some exclusive guests.
- Because no one else will interview them.
- What do you mean no one else will interview us?
- That's not true, people would maybe want-
- We're moderately interesting.
- So if people wanted to interview you
why would you have your children?
- 'Cause, COVID-19. - COVID?
- Quarantine! - Quarantine?
- Okay, let's get into it.
We have Penn and Kim Holderness on their new book.
- Yeah, it's on pre-order now if you wanna get it.
- Hey, hey, this is our show.
- No one asked. - Yeah, no one asked.
- Just stop. - Yeah, no.
Congrats on your book, am I in it?
(laughing)
- Is that really all you- - Yes, yes!
Are we in it? - Are we in it?
- So our new book, it's available for pre-order now,
it's called "Everybody Fights, So Why Not Get Better at It",
it's, you know, about the work we've done in our marriage.
- You guys were mentioned many times in it
but we don't really talk much about you guys fighting.
It's more about us fighting.
- But like, how do you describe us?
- Adorable, perfect children
who sometimes get on our nerves.
- We talk about what it's like having kids
and what that does to a marriage
and kind of the fights that have come out of that.
- This is for like, those exceptional partnerships
with people who love each other
and who just want to be better at being with each other,
which includes how to fight correctly.
- Where did you like writing most, your closet,
your car or the bathroom?
- I really pictured when we were writing a book
that it would be very, like, we'd be in a log cabin
and it would, you know, I'd be in like a cardigan sweater
and I'd have a typewriter and I have a lot of time,
but we wrote the last half of this book during quarantine.
I had to go into the closet and lock the door.
So it was a lot of those moments.
- To get away from what, exactly?
- To have the time and peace to be able to write.
- From what?
- My husband and my children.
- Sometimes we need a little peace and quiet.
Sometimes we need some time for each other.
Now you're uncomfortable, so let's move on.
(laughing)
- Do you want to watch us make out?
- No, stop it actually!
- Then maybe move on to the next question.
- Stop it!
- Um, who is a better writer?
- Who's a better writer? - Oh, me or Kim?
We're different writers.
- We are very different writers.
- Who's the better one?
- I write probably more comedically
and so that doesn't always have a place in this book,
it has a place sometimes in this book.
Your mother is like so incredibly real when she writes
and she bears herself a lot better than I do
which probably makes her a better writer.
I wrote, I wrote some feelings out that I'd never had before
and discovered some new things about myself when I wrote.
- Wow, it's so important.
(laughing)
Your Amazon summary talks about your bra fight.
Can you explain to us what that is?
- Sure, Lola, when you tell a woman to put her bra back on
after she's taken it off, that is a terrible thing to do.
- Yes, it is.
- But I didn't know that, most men don't.
- Did you just fart? - I'm sorry.
(laughing) (farting)
(exclaiming)
Dude!
(laughing)
We got dressed up for this! - We, this is serious for us!
- This is our first interview and we're supposed to be
on "the Today Show" and they can't get us out there,
and also they didn't call us.
(laughing)
They weren't interested!
- Okay, did you at least dedicate the book to us?
- We did. - Yes!
- It is dedicated to you. (kids exclaiming)
- Would you like to hear the dedication?
- Yes, yes. - Okay, hang on.
- This is the dedication.
- For Lola and Penn Charles, love is at the center
of this book and your love inspires us.
- Aww. - Aww!
- Okay, next question.
- Can we ask you guys a few questions?
- Sure. - Sure?
- Do your parents fight? - Yes.
Moving on! - Do you know why we don't
just go somewhere else when we're fighting?
- Because it's cold outside?
- It's because we want you guys to hear
that normal couples fight and we want you to hear
how we resolve it.
How do you guys resolve fights
when the two of you are mad at each other?
- Um, we don't. - We don't.
(laughing)
- We still haven't resolved the locking
the bathroom door one yet.
- Oh, my God!
Literally, unless, are you kidding me?
- I didn't lock it!
- You guys have like a secret roommate
that lives in the bathroom.
You were the one who locked the door
and I couldn't get in the bathroom.
- No it wasn't!
- The name of the book is "Everybody Fights,
so Why Not Get Better at It?"
I had so much fun writing it with you.
And I really appreciate all of those
incredibly penetrating questions that you asked us.
The book is available right now for pre-order
on theHoldernessFamily.com and on Amazon.
- Yeah...
(all laughing)